Japanese products

[steved]

Originally Posted by kimona54

This makes no sense whatsoever!

This is precisely the reason the American automotive industry has lost the race: poor workmanship and the mere perception of quality! And, yes, we need to "hold (this) against them."

Exactly, the American automotive industry wants one thing, "MONEY". From the Corporation head, the Unions, and the workers who want more money to do less work.

And it is also North American peoples fault also, we want everything for nothing.
Because of that attitude look what we get, poor workmanship and poor quality cars and most things in general. This is also the reason why everything is being sent overseas. Imagine how great North America would be if we were more like the Japanese.

Me personally I have this attitude. "Pay now, or pay later".

I would rather pay more for a better quality car then buy a cheaper quality car and pay for all the repairs and extra fuel costs later on, which in the long run is becomes more expensive then buying the better quality car in the first place.

[kimona]

Originally Posted by steved

I would rather pay more for a better quality car then buy a cheaper quality car and pay for all the repairs and extra fuel costs later on, which in the long run is becomes more expensive then buying the better quality car in the first place.

Yes. Oui, mon ami.

Not to mention freedom from headaches and aggravation of driving that piece of shit throughout the course of ownership... and then to finally have to deal with the terrible trade-in/resale value.

[jdium]

Originally Posted by steved

Exactly, the American automotive industry wants one thing, "MONEY". From the Corporation head, the Unions, and the workers who want more money to do less work.

And it is also North American peoples fault also, we want everything for nothing.

??????

You saying you don't want money? You don't want more money for less work? I'm pretty sure the Japanese public would ALL love to get more money for less time working, as well as cheaper prices. I agree with a good portion of this thread, but this makes no sense...

Originally Posted by Pavel Olavich

The US Government is selling us all out. Who is there for the working man? The professional guy? Nobody....greedy corporations would rather take our jobs and send them off shore....it's capitalism gone awry...they forgot about us "family" members....mom and dad give the job's in their store to outsiders, and their kids go wanting....but hey, nothing personal, right? Just business. :-(

I'm all for open economies, free trade and all that, but within limits, within a time frame....

As for this, it sounds hypocritical to me. Greedy corporations are out for one thing, profit. That is not capitalism gone awry, that is capitalism at it's most pure. Get your product produced for the cheapest price, and your profit increases. Corporations have the responsibility to share holders or owners, not to "family" members...

If you are for open economies, get used to the outsourcing. It is a fact. Until North Americans can provide the same products/service for nearly the same price, outsourcing is going to happen. Capitalism has a great way of sorting the winners from the losers if given the chance...

[Pavel Olavich]

Originally Posted by jdium

??????

You saying you don't want money? You don't want more money for less work? I'm pretty sure the Japanese public would ALL love to get more money for less time working, as well as cheaper prices. I agree with a good portion of this thread, but this makes no sense...



As for this, it sounds hypocritical to me. Greedy corporations are out for one thing, profit. That is not capitalism gone awry, that is capitalism at it's most pure. Get your product produced for the cheapest price, and your profit increases. Corporations have the responsibility to share holders or owners, not to "family" members...

If you are for open economies, get used to the outsourcing. It is a fact. Until North Americans can provide the same products/service for nearly the same price, outsourcing is going to happen. Capitalism has a great way of sorting the winners from the losers if given the chance...

Your ignorance is astounding.

There is Capitalism. Then there is wreckless Capitalism. Sorry you do not know the difference.

You have the dillusion that capitalism is all good.

You sadly don't seem to understand that Capitalism must be tempered with what is good for the country as a whole, otherwise it is no worse for the people then socialism, or communism.

You forget that most of the world's standard of living is 1/10 of ours, so if our company's off shore our work to them, guess what is going to happe to us?

OUR STANDARD OF LIVING GOES DOWN, DOWN, DOWN...

so easy for you to spew dillusion when you have a good job.....but what will you say when your industries off shores enmasse to another country?

You will, not might, YOU WILL agree with me if and when that happens.

And to further show your ignorance, you seem to think that it is okay for a company to move production to the lowest bidder, in order to make more $$.. It's not that simple, nor easy.

Better for a company to put quality as number 1....in the long run this will guarentee the highest profits...

You think too much about short term gains...think long, long term...