Broader unemployment measure at 17.5%

[H3LlIoN]

Everyone in this thread is wrong. And everyone in this thread is right.

We need to stop saying that one president is good and one is bad and realize that they are all bad. There is no such thing as a decent politician at any level past local, and even then those can be corrupt too. Perhaps we should take the time to realize that our government has grown far from the ideal that it started as and, as such, needs to be torn down and rebuilt anew. It's no wonder politicians ignore the constitution; they ignore EVERYTHING this nation was built on. And you still think US is greatest country in world? HAH! We just too stupid to unite and expect better than what we have become.

Here is a quick anecdote that describes how we have gotten to this point, and why we have let it get this far:

"If you drop a frog in a pot of boiling water, it will of course frantically try to clamber out. But if you place it gently in a pot of tepid water and turn the heat on low, it will float there quite placidly. As the water gradually heats up, the frog will sink into a tranquil stupor, exactly like one of us in a hot bath, and before long, with a smile on its face, it will unresistingly allow itself to be boiled to death." - Daniel Quinn

This is why we fought against an immediate communist overthrow during the cold war, but have allowed ourselves to slowly accept some of the very same principles outlined by foreign political stance. Somewhere along the lines, the politicians realized this. Problem is, we never did.

Am I American? Yes. Did I vote for Obama? No. Was McCain a better candidate? He was merely the lesser of what I conceived as two evils.

Honestly...Obama was the inevitable choice.

We have been moving towards this for a hundred years. I'm not pissed about it. I'm going to sit back and laugh my happy ass off as I watch the rest of these idiots claw and fight their way to the top of this shitstack that this country has become, all the while waiting for the moment when the ship slips slowly beneath the waves, leaving only a final puff of air as it's last ditch effort in a futile struggle against inevitability.

[why?]

Originally Posted by H3LlIoN

Everyone in this thread is wrong. And everyone in this thread is right.

We need to stop saying that one president is good and one is bad and realize that they are all bad. There is no such thing as a decent politician at any level past local, and even then those can be corrupt too. Perhaps we should take the time to realize that our government has grown far from the ideal that it started as and, as such, needs to be torn down and rebuilt anew. It's no wonder politicians ignore the constitution; they ignore EVERYTHING this nation was built on. And you still think US is greatest country in world? HAH! We just too stupid to unite and expect better than what we have become.

Here is a quick anecdote that describes how we have gotten to this point, and why we have let it get this far:

"If you drop a frog in a pot of boiling water, it will of course frantically try to clamber out. But if you place it gently in a pot of tepid water and turn the heat on low, it will float there quite placidly. As the water gradually heats up, the frog will sink into a tranquil stupor, exactly like one of us in a hot bath, and before long, with a smile on its face, it will unresistingly allow itself to be boiled to death." - Daniel Quinn

This is why we fought against an immediate communist overthrow during the cold war, but have allowed ourselves to slowly accept some of the very same principles outlined by foreign political stance. Somewhere along the lines, the politicians realized this. Problem is, we never did.

Am I American? Yes. Did I vote for Obama? No. Was McCain a better candidate? He was merely the lesser of what I conceived as two evils.

Honestly...Obama was the inevitable choice.

We have been moving towards this for a hundred years. I'm not pissed about it. I'm going to sit back and laugh my happy ass off as I watch the rest of these idiots claw and fight their way to the top of this shitstack that this country has become, all the while waiting for the moment when the ship slips slowly beneath the waves, leaving only a final puff of air as it's last ditch effort in a futile struggle against inevitability.

I agree with most of what you said, with a strong exception of the last part. Nothing is inevitable. We can beat them.