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Yaris Hilton · 11-18-2009, 10:44 PM

I think that's the reason we can't get it in the U.S. People would make unfavorable comparisons between the mileage of a diesel Yaris and the Prius.

phb10186 · 11-20-2009, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Yaris Hilton

I think that's the reason we can't get it in the U.S. People would make unfavorable comparisons between the mileage of a diesel Yaris and the Prius.

The diesel Yaris does better highway miles than the Prius, but the Prius will do better urban miles.

North Americahas totally missed out on the diesel revolution that has occured in Europe. Diesel is so much better than petrol for everything other than flat out speed.

Diesels of late are far better than those of the past, and the Toyota and Honda units are very petrol-like.

The new Accord-sized TDI vehicles on sale in Europe usually have 1.9-2.4 litre TDI's, and can easily manage 45MPG, but on a run can do 55MPG.

That must be the way forward.

Just remember I am talking Imperial 4.5 litre galons, not US 3.9 ones!

bronsin · 11-20-2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Yaris Hilton

I think that's the reason we can't get it in the U.S. People would make unfavorable comparisons between the mileage of a diesel Yaris and the Prius.

As I understand it they dont sell as many hybrids in Europe as in the US. In Europe the diesle is the thing. Which is pretty crazy because they cost like a Prius and never recover the additional cost of ownership.

phb10186 · 11-20-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bronsin

As I understand it they dont sell as many hybrids in Europe as in the US. In Europe the diesle is the thing. Which is pretty crazy because they cost like a Prius and never recover the additional cost of ownership.

They sell loads of hybrids in the UK, especially around London, where I live, as all vehicles have to pay £8 to enter the city centre, but hybrids are exempt.

Diesel is almost as efficient as a hybrid, has no batteries to go wrong, and has loads more torque, and are better to drive.

I guess the muffler emissions are cleaner from a petrol engine.

Whenever I am in the US, I am amased that there is no real diesel car scene... better than hybrid for sure IMO

bronsin · 11-21-2009, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by phb10186

They sell loads of hybrids in the UK, especially around London, where I live, as all vehicles have to pay £8 to enter the city centre, but hybrids are exempt.

Diesel is almost as efficient as a hybrid, has no batteries to go wrong, and has loads more torque, and are better to drive.

I guess the muffler emissions are cleaner from a petrol engine.

Whenever I am in the US, I am amased that there is no real diesel car scene... better than hybrid for sure IMO

They had a piece on NPR about electric cars in London and how they park for free and dont pay to enter the city. Havnt seen an el car here yet.

Yaris Hilton · 11-21-2009, 01:02 AM

GM put out some lousy Oldsmobiles and Cadillacs with a gasoline V8 converted to Diesel circa 1980. Failed on the market and the GM execs concluded Diesels just wouldn't work in America.

auxmike · 11-21-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaris Hilton

GM put out some lousy Oldsmobiles and Cadillacs with a gasoline V8 converted to Diesel circa 1980. Failed on the market and the GM execs concluded Diesels just wouldn't work in America.

Don't forget the Caddy 4-6-8 engine of the same period!

Yaris Hilton · 11-21-2009, 02:02 PM

Oh, I haven't forgotten it. Actually, the idea is sound, it was poorly implemented.

GM had a history of coming up with radical new ideas and putting them into production after limited testing. The buyers were the test drivers. If you bought a GM model in about the third year of production or later, it was probably a good car. Heaven help you if you were an early adopter.

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Yaris Hilton Half a Bubble Off Plumb Drives: 2009 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bristol, Tennessee, USA Posts: 1,593	I think that's the reason we can't get it in the U.S. People would make unfavorable comparisons between the mileage of a diesel Yaris and the Prius.

11-21-2009, 01:02 AM	#6
Yaris Hilton Half a Bubble Off Plumb Drives: 2009 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bristol, Tennessee, USA Posts: 1,593	GM put out some lousy Oldsmobiles and Cadillacs with a gasoline V8 converted to Diesel circa 1980. Failed on the market and the GM execs concluded Diesels just wouldn't work in America.

11-21-2009, 02:02 PM	#8
Yaris Hilton Half a Bubble Off Plumb Drives: 2009 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bristol, Tennessee, USA Posts: 1,593	Oh, I haven't forgotten it. Actually, the idea is sound, it was poorly implemented. GM had a history of coming up with radical new ideas and putting them into production after limited testing. The buyers were the test drivers. If you bought a GM model in about the third year of production or later, it was probably a good car. Heaven help you if you were an early adopter.