Yaris ECU broken??!!!!!!

[phb10186]

Originally Posted by bronsin

As I understand it they dont sell as many hybrids in Europe as in the US. In Europe the diesle is the thing. Which is pretty crazy because they cost like a Prius and never recover the additional cost of ownership.

They sell loads of hybrids in the UK, especially around London, where I live, as all vehicles have to pay £8 to enter the city centre, but hybrids are exempt.

Diesel is almost as efficient as a hybrid, has no batteries to go wrong, and has loads more torque, and are better to drive.

I guess the muffler emissions are cleaner from a petrol engine.

Whenever I am in the US, I am amased that there is no real diesel car scene... better than hybrid for sure IMO

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by phb10186

They sell loads of hybrids in the UK, especially around London, where I live, as all vehicles have to pay £8 to enter the city centre, but hybrids are exempt.

Diesel is almost as efficient as a hybrid, has no batteries to go wrong, and has loads more torque, and are better to drive.

I guess the muffler emissions are cleaner from a petrol engine.

Whenever I am in the US, I am amased that there is no real diesel car scene... better than hybrid for sure IMO

They had a piece on NPR about electric cars in London and how they park for free and dont pay to enter the city. Havnt seen an el car here yet.

[Yaris Hilton]

GM put out some lousy Oldsmobiles and Cadillacs with a gasoline V8 converted to Diesel circa 1980. Failed on the market and the GM execs concluded Diesels just wouldn't work in America.

[auxmike]

Originally Posted by Yaris Hilton

GM put out some lousy Oldsmobiles and Cadillacs with a gasoline V8 converted to Diesel circa 1980. Failed on the market and the GM execs concluded Diesels just wouldn't work in America.

Don't forget the Caddy 4-6-8 engine of the same period!

[Yaris Hilton]

Oh, I haven't forgotten it. Actually, the idea is sound, it was poorly implemented.

GM had a history of coming up with radical new ideas and putting them into production after limited testing. The buyers were the test drivers. If you bought a GM model in about the third year of production or later, it was probably a good car. Heaven help you if you were an early adopter.

[phb10186]

Originally Posted by Yaris Hilton

Oh, I haven't forgotten it. Actually, the idea is sound, it was poorly implemented.

GM had a history of coming up with radical new ideas and putting them into production after limited testing. The buyers were the test drivers. If you bought a GM model in about the third year of production or later, it was probably a good car. Heaven help you if you were an early adopter.

Isn't the Dodge Viper engine an old truck unit that was diesel converted to petrol a long while ago?


... Diesel eill only catch on if there is a financial incentive, and with gad at $3-4 per gallon, there isn't one.

If I lived in the US, I would have a V8 for sure, no point not. Fuel in the UK id about $7-8 per gallon. Sucks.

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by phb10186

Isn't the Dodge Viper engine an old truck unit that was diesel converted to petrol a long while ago?

Nope that was a gas V8 modded into a (gas) V10. Yeah here in the US we still run around in V8s. We buy from the Saudi's who then give our $$$$ to the tererorists. Everybodys happy!
I just paid $2.48 a gallon last week!