Questions about downshifting

[YamilR]

Originally Posted by Yaris TTE JWRC

Hey guys, Yaris is my First MT, and im getting a hang of it with no problem now, but now im just learning some of the tricks of sitck shifting, suck as the Heel and toe down shifting, and start to get a hang of it, one question to all of you been driving MT for a long time, is it okay for me to just down shift from 5th to 2nd to get the extra pick up of the speed while im traveling about 45-50MPH, the same question, can i just down shift form 5th to 3rd to pick up the extra speed on a High way while im traveling between 75-80MPH, is it bad for the engine, or tranny?

MT pro drivers please educate me

In my opinion, If your going to downshift just go back one gear at a time 75-80mph on 3rd gear is a killer for any tranny

[Yaris TTE JWRC]

Originally Posted by YamilR

In my opinion, If your going to downshift just go back one gear at a time 75-80mph on 3rd gear is a killer for any tranny

ok, what bout from 5th to 2nd at 45-50MPH??

[Pars]

Originally Posted by YamilR

In my opinion, If your going to downshift just go back one gear at a time 75-80mph on 3rd gear is a killer for any tranny

One gear at at time? that's for a stupid sequential system!! Even the vaunted twin shaft system on the VW's can only do it one gear at a time. To get the most out of driving on the streets (with a passion) is to skip gears when downshifting (especially if you have a high revving small engine). It might not make alot of sense on the race track, but it makes lots of sense on the streets. I've avoided my share of accidents on the intersection by ramming it into first (front 3rd or 4th) and getting the hell out of the way asap. If you don't know how to downshift multiple gears on your manual transmission then you might as well be driving a primitive automatic. Granted, a regular automatic can downshift multiple gears when stomping on the gas pedal, but by the time the transmission decide to kick down, I'd already have been t-bone by the truck coming at me. Also, with manual, you can plan your downshift and skip as many gears as needed to give the kind of result desired...which is not possible with an automatic or a sequential system.

[YamilR]

Originally Posted by Pars

One gear at at time? that's for a stupid sequential system!! Even the vaunted twin shaft system on the VW's can only do it one gear at a time. To get the most out of driving on the streets (with a passion) is to skip gears when downshifting (especially if you have a high revving small engine). It might not make alot of sense on the race track, but it makes lots of sense on the streets. I've avoided my share of accidents on the intersection by ramming it into first (front 3rd or 4th) and getting the hell out of the way asap. If you don't know how to downshift multiple gears on your manual transmission then you might as will be driving a primitive automatic.

Go ahead do whatever you want, If your doing 80MPH on a highway, not on a little street like your talking, why in the hell you want to go to 3rd to gain more speed? Who told you that downshifting gears gives more speed, it will give you more power to the engine but no more speed, but go ahead keed driving with a "passion" that's what get people killed

[Pars]

Originally Posted by YamilR

Go ahead do whatever you want, If your doing 80MPH on a highway, not on a little street like your talking, why in the hell you want to go to 3rd to gain more speed? Who told you that downshifting gears gives more speed, it will give you more power to the engine but no more speed, but go ahead keed driving with a "passion" that's what get people killed

Your right, going to 3rd at 80mph on the Yaris is stupid. I was getting it confused with my old 98 Civic, cause dropping to 3rd at 75mph on that car was one of the sweat spots.

[Yaris TTE JWRC]

man, after reading everyone's reply, i will say it is about 50/50 of people saying that it is okay and it is not okay to muti gear downshift in order to cain more speed as when is needed, so i dont think theres an answer to this question from all of us, or maybe there is, but just because we werent knowledgeable enough to know the answer to the question of either if it is okay or not to down shift muti gear to cain the speed as when is needed

[mutatio]

Originally Posted by Pars

One gear at at time? that's for a stupid sequential system!! Even the vaunted twin shaft system on the VW's can only do it one gear at a time. To get the most out of driving on the streets (with a passion) is to skip gears when downshifting (especially if you have a high revving small engine). It might not make alot of sense on the race track, but it makes lots of sense on the streets. I've avoided my share of accidents on the intersection by ramming it into first (front 3rd or 4th) and getting the hell out of the way asap. If you don't know how to downshift multiple gears on your manual transmission then you might as well be driving a primitive automatic. Granted, a regular automatic can downshift mulitple gears when stomping on the gas, but by the time the transmission decide to kick down, I'd already have been t-bone by the truck coming at me. Also, with manual, you can plan your downshift and skip as many gears as need to give the kind of result you desire...which is not possible with an automatic and a sequential system will take too long to do it one gear at a time.

lmao. u must have a special MT that allows u to shift smooth as butter from 4th or 5th to 1st at high rpms. ;) plan indeed.

an AT will downshift within a reasonable degree of tolerance w/ a manual downshift, not just tromping on the gas. i imagine the rpms at which an AT will allow u to downshift manually isn't a far cry from the rpms u need to be at to downshift in an MT w/o grinding the sh!t out of your tranny.