Manual Shifting, A Dying Technology

[severous01]

you all need to drive a bmw M car. i drove a M3 and that changed my mind. it is a manual transmission with automatic double clutch and automatic gear selection via solenoids. thing is awesome. can pull out of one gear and put into another at the same time. not like moving the shifter from 4-5 or from 1-3 or whatever. if you want to go from 4-7, it's immediate and quicker than you can think.

you have an option for full auto or steering controls, or shifter controls. if you hit the button on the wheel and it's in auto, it'll still downshift. and it wont upshift unless you hit it...but if you screw it up it'll know and you'll pay for it. if you bust redline it records it in the flight data for next shop visit...

[darkmoon87]

Originally Posted by severous01

you all need to drive a bmw M car. i drove a M3 and that changed my mind. it is a manual transmission with automatic double clutch and automatic gear selection via solenoids. thing is awesome. can pull out of one gear and put into another at the same time. not like moving the shifter from 4-5 or from 1-3 or whatever. if you want to go from 4-7, it's immediate and quicker than you can think.

you have an option for full auto or steering controls, or shifter controls. if you hit the button on the wheel and it's in auto, it'll still downshift. and it wont upshift unless you hit it...but if you screw it up it'll know and you'll pay for it. if you bust redline it records it in the flight data for next shop visit...

i was gonna say pretty much the same thing except that i was about to suggest people to drive the new evo with paddle shift. but tbh, manual is more fun hands down. performance wise, these automatic trannies with clutch can perform way better than a traditional manual gearbox

[severous01]

Originally Posted by darkmoon87

i was gonna say pretty much the same thing except that i was about to suggest people to drive the new evo with paddle shift. but tbh, manual is more fun hands down. performance wise, these automatic trannies with clutch can perform way better than a traditional manual gearbox

the EVO is like 56k vs cable on the M3 or M5 trans. it's so lagged out, it's like an auto that's trying to be manual. the double clutch M trans is an actual manual that's been retrofitted with parts that make it automatic.

but yes, it's similar.

[Kongo-Otto]

Originally Posted by severous01

you all need to drive a bmw M car. i drove a M3 and that changed my mind. it is a manual transmission with automatic double clutch and automatic gear selection via solenoids. thing is awesome. can pull out of one gear and put into another at the same time. not like moving the shifter from 4-5 or from 1-3 or whatever. if you want to go from 4-7, it's immediate and quicker than you can think.

you have an option for full auto or steering controls, or shifter controls. if you hit the button on the wheel and it's in auto, it'll still downshift. and it wont upshift unless you hit it...but if you screw it up it'll know and you'll pay for it. if you bust redline it records it in the flight data for next shop visit...

No BMW needed. Maybe its, again, different in the US but in Europe you can get these transmissions from various car brands, like:

Fiat
Alfa Romeo
Chrysler
Ferrari
Ford
Mercedes-Benz
Mitsubishi
Peugeot
Volvo
Porsche
Bugatti
Volkswagen
Artega
Audi
Seat
Škoda
Nissan GT-R

But for now i don't want to have one. If you are out of warranty and suffer from a transmission failure it is getting expensive since they usually just change the whole thing at your cost. Only very few companies can repair these transmissions.