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Old 04-25-2011, 03:18 AM   #1
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That article is based on ONE trip at 70 mph using cruise control! Oh yeah, and they were only running 45 psi. Hardly scientific. Apparently, no one was killed, however.

I've been running these pressures for nearly 2 years straight. I know many others have been as well. I know of none who have had any issues outside of a stiffer ride. ALL have gotten uncommonly good tire wear. I can guarantee you this car handles and brakes better at 60 psi.

What exactly are you using as evidence (hopefully some real science here?) to conclude I am a suicidal (and let us not forget potentially homocidal) maniac (Maine-iac?).

If I had found one solitary piece of REAL info that indicated my practice was unsafe I wouldn't even have tried it. Didn't find any. Others who had been running higher pressures for years reported only positives. (Excluding those who died fiery deaths, of course.)

I guess what I'm saying is, at least up to this point, my anecdotal evidence trumps your anecdotal evidence because I know me better than I know you.

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Only one of us worked as a tech for a major tire chain for a half dozen years...so you're anecdotal evidence is worth jack when it comes to the experience of somebody who actually worked in the business. Did you go to tire school too?

In a game of Russian roulette I still have 5 chances not to get shot...doesn't make me smart for playing.

If you can find me one piece of info that says it is safe, we can go from there...because I can fill this page with links to places that say it's STUPID.

To reiterate, as far as I'm concerned you can drive your car off a cliff, as long as the only person hurt is you. These stupid games risk the lives of every car you might some day collide with, maybe it wont be today or tomorrow, maybe it will be 20 sets of tires down the road...but the negative effects are there and you cannot escape that.People that play these games are the reason we have so many laws on the books...because you can't tell the difference between a good idea and a bad one.
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Old 04-26-2011, 04:33 AM   #2
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Only one of us worked as a tech for a major tire chain for a half dozen years...so you're anecdotal evidence is worth jack when it comes to the experience of somebody who actually worked in the business. Did you go to tire school too?

In a game of Russian roulette I still have 5 chances not to get shot...doesn't make me smart for playing.

If you can find me one piece of info that says it is safe, we can go from there...because I can fill this page with links to places that say it's STUPID.

To reiterate, as far as I'm concerned you can drive your car off a cliff, as long as the only person hurt is you. These stupid games risk the lives of every car you might some day collide with, maybe it wont be today or tomorrow, maybe it will be 20 sets of tires down the road...but the negative effects are there and you cannot escape that.People that play these games are the reason we have so many laws on the books...because you can't tell the difference between a good idea and a bad one.
Round and round we go. I would argue my anecdotal evidence is worth plenty more than "jack" because I've got 2 years of daily real world experience under these conditions not a bunch of regurgitated generalizations.

Any test data from "tire school"? Can you share data you've collected working at a tire shop related to tire inflation that apparently is not even collectible by NHTSA? Anything? "Given tire size xyz for every psi over max sidewall a tire is 1 point Blah blah more likely to fail" or "takes an additional x ft of stopping distance" or anything such? If our practices are so blatantly "stupid" surely there is plenty of such data available that I have overlooked somehow.

Thanks for the compassion. The urge to drive off a cliff has never presented itself until this thread came along. Good thing, I may have injured an innocent ant or maggot. Keep in mind I very concisely answered the OP's question. I provided a fact, plain and simple. I wasn't advocating the practice, nor do I recommend the practice.

I hope my 1st issue is 20 sets of tires down the road! I bet any user of tires would take those odds, period! Doesn't seem to add credence to the fact my habits are so dangerous.
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