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Old 12-12-2011, 12:42 AM   #1
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I'm curious to know if you've looked at the 3.941:1 FD ratio from the Corolla/1st gen Matrix C59 series? Still gives you near-stock, but just a bit more oomph in 1st/2nd. If you're interested in test-fitting it, I'm pretty sure the C59 I bought has one. I can't vouch for its condition as I haven't torn it down that far yet, but I plan on getting to it some time mid-Jan. Oh, and it has a 3.166:1 1st gear too, if that makes any difference.
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Old 12-12-2011, 02:33 PM   #2
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I'm curious to know if you've looked at the 3.941:1 FD ratio from the Corolla/1st gen Matrix C59 series? Still gives you near-stock, but just a bit more oomph in 1st/2nd. If you're interested in test-fitting it, I'm pretty sure the C59 I bought has one. I can't vouch for its condition as I haven't torn it down that far yet, but I plan on getting to it some time mid-Jan. Oh, and it has a 3.166:1 1st gear too, if that makes any difference.
1st gear is pretty useless for road racing... Beyond pulling the car on the trailer and initiating movement, it is already not used.

If 2nd was any shorter the gap to 3rd would only get bigger, if anything I would like a taller 2nd, to reduce the RPM drop to 3rd.

With our 20" tires I will have to turn 7300rpm in 5th to hit 120mph with the stock FD, I am not sure I want to spin a stock bottom end much harder.
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Old 12-12-2011, 05:29 PM   #3
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1st gear is pretty useless for road racing... Beyond pulling the car on the trailer and initiating movement, it is already not used.
Aah, understood. I'm assuming that road racing does a rolling start, like oval tracks?
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If 2nd was any shorter the gap to 3rd would only get bigger, if anything I would like a taller 2nd, to reduce the RPM drop to 3rd.
And there's the bugger of it: 1st and 2nd pinions are part of the input shaft. You could in theory get much closer with a C60 gearset, but then you're either notching the frame (illegal for H stock?) or trying to rework a piece of hardened steel (expensive/near-impossible) to shorten the input and output shafts. Any chance you've contacted KAAZ about the option to make a one-off?
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Aah, understood. I'm assuming that road racing does a rolling start, like oval tracks?

And there's the bugger of it: 1st and 2nd pinions are part of the input shaft. You could in theory get much closer with a C60 gearset, but then you're either notching the frame (illegal for H stock?) or trying to rework a piece of hardened steel (expensive/near-impossible) to shorten the input and output shafts. Any chance you've contacted KAAZ about the option to make a one-off?
Yes, SCCA uses rolling starts for Club Racing. The Pace Car or Pole sitter will set the pace, depending the on the cars in the mix this is typically 50-70mph.

They actually just did a clarification this week which gives FWD Prod cars the same allowances as RWD to trim body/frame bits to fit alternative transmissions. So a swap could be done.

This should get us close enough, even if its not perfect, its way better than what we have had the last two years... At least on paper, we still have to get it on the track.

The trans and all the bits are now in the hands of our mechanic.
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