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Old 03-13-2007, 10:04 PM   #11
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That is not really valid. You don't need upgraded internals to enjoy better driveability, more torque and better top end.

Of course the more mods you do to the car, the more you will squeeze out with proper tuning. But saying with "certainty" that a piggyback is useless unless you have heavy modificatons simply isnt true. If a piggyback is the only option we have, then that is what we have to deal with. Obviously some are better than others, but there are some very good products out there.

Ashley
I guess I should put it into perspective- when adding an ECU tuning program or piggyback programmer, I'm not doing it for the reasons you listed- I'm going for big power. I can't say that I've seen any significant gains (10 or more hp or tq) with a piggyback and just I/H/E. Cams and adjustable gears are, IMHO, the very least to get anything bigger out of a piggyback.
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