The 1000cc vs 1300cc

[edmscan]

Originally Posted by BEEF

Not sure why some people have issues with diesels. If you look at other countries, they are seeing a fuel economy increase of sometimes 50%...that is well worth the extra 10-20% fuel cost.

In some places, like where I am from in Alberta diesel is actually CHEAPER than regular gasoline. I am not sure why that is, but for some people it would be a good alternative.

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by edmscan

In some places, like where I am from in Alberta diesel is actually CHEAPER than regular gasoline. I am not sure why that is, but for some people it would be a good alternative.

Yeah if its cheaper its great. In Canada on my trip to AK last summer everywhere I went it was cheaper.

But its not everyplace Ive been in the US.

[Islander]

lol, so i take it most of the guys here are just old fuddy duddies looking for the best gas mileage. :p

As for the diesel vs petrol debate, diesel is significantly cheaper over here. I'm not sure what the political and economic reasons for that are.

I don't think there's a diesel tax (i know there's an emissions tax on petrol cars over 2000cc). But most vehicles here which are diesel are double cabs, and there is a tax on them.

I've got an old Nissan double cab which is diesel, and despite being a 2.5L, the MPG is great. But again it goes back to the cost at the pump.

[Kar98]

Originally Posted by Islander

lol, so i take it most of the guys here are just old fuddy duddies looking for the best gas mileage. :p

It sure sounds like it. I've got the 1.5, too, and I'm sorely missing the extra half liter compared to my previous car. That old VW Golf only had 115 HP vs the 106 in the Yaris, weight and size were not too dissimilar, but damn would it ever outrun the Yaris any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

I know the 1.8 liter engine from a Matrix would bolt right up into my hatchback ;)

[daf62757]

Originally Posted by Kar98

It sure sounds like it. I've got the 1.5, too, and I'm sorely missing the extra half liter compared to my previous car. That old VW Golf only had 115 HP vs the 106 in the Yaris, weight and size were not too dissimilar, but damn would it ever outrun the Yaris any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

I know the 1.8 liter engine from a Matrix would bolt right up into my hatchback ;)

well......the VW could outrun the Yaris, except when it was in the shop for repairs! The tortoise and the hair paradigm again, eh!

[Kar98]

Originally Posted by daf62757

well......the VW could outrun the Yaris, except when it was in the shop for repairs!

I gave up. After meticulously fixing every problem the instant it arose, it was getting to much and I quit bothering. So by the time I sold it this summer, reverse lights, window cranks, high beams, door locks, most door handles... all had quit working. There were a few other things, like aux-in only had the left channel, finding just the right spot to insert the key to start the car, mystery noises all over that I had just learned to live with.

I gave up when the A/C quit in July, in Texas, and bought the Yaris: ten years newer and 100,000 miles less on the clock. And everything works.