Drum brakes

[Kalispel]

I'm not sure how much rear-discs cost versus drums to install at the factory, but it seems strange to me that manufacturers would install such outdated/inferior systems from a servicing and general-design perspective. My 2000 Accord had front disc and rear drums, and didn't feel as responsive during breaking as my 4-disc SE does (it actually took some getting used to at first) - nor did the 2015/2016 Yaris L model rental that I drove recently with rear drums. No more rear drums for me.

I can really appreciate the relative simplicity/reliability of the late 90's, early 2000's technology that the Yaris mostly employs even today, but drums are not simpler (quite the opposite), nor are they more reliable - and date waaaay back there on the automotive timeline.

[NYC-SE]

Originally Posted by Kalispel

No more rear drums for me.

I can really appreciate the relative simplicity/reliability of the late 90's, early 2000's technology that the Yaris mostly employs even today, but drums are not simpler (quite the opposite), nor are they more reliable - and date waaaay back there on the automotive timeline.

Yep!