Wow, I Got 48.57 mpg

[Edd]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

Just for confirmation, can you provide me the info saying that all Yarii have DFCO?

I thought all cars made in the last 5-10 years had that. Either way, are you really prepared to shut off power steering and braking just to save a few litres of petrol? Not to mention that "coasting" doesn't last forever and the car slows down... Unless you mean taking the car down a hill where no throttle is required - in which case it would be crazy to lose half the safety features of the car by turning it off.

[BailOut]

Originally Posted by Edd

I thought all cars made in the last 5-10 years had that. Either way, are you really prepared to shut off power steering and braking just to save a few litres of petrol? Not to mention that "coasting" doesn't last forever and the car slows down... Unless you mean taking the car down a hill where no throttle is required - in which case it would be crazy to lose half the safety features of the car by turning it off.

Again, I ask that each of you be careful with the (dis)information that you spread.

The Yaris is drive-by-wire. As such, with the engine off and the key in the Ignition II position you still have power steering. The vehicle's brake system also has enough vacuum to support a minimum of 4 brake touches (uses) before it starts to deplete the power assist.

This means that performing a FAS (coasting in neutral with the engine off) in the Yaris is perfectly safe as long as you remember to re-engage the engine after a few friction brake uses in order to regenerate the vacuum.

While "coasting doesn't last forever" neither does any other form of movement, so I'm not sure what your point is.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by Edd

I thought all cars made in the last 5-10 years had that. Either way, are you really prepared to shut off power steering and braking just to save a few litres of petrol? Not to mention that "coasting" doesn't last forever and the car slows down... Unless you mean taking the car down a hill where no throttle is required - in which case it would be crazy to lose half the safety features of the car by turning it off.

nope, won't ever shut off my car while driving. rather have safety than save a few mpg.

[BailOut]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

nope, won't ever shut off my car while driving. rather have safety than save a few mpg.

Again, if you still have forward momentum, you still have power brakes, you still have power steering and you still have airbags, etc., then exactly what safety do you think you give up by turning the engine off and then putting the ignition switch back to the Ignition II position for a coasting segment?

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by BailOut

Again, if you still have forward momentum, you still have power brakes, you still have power steering and you still have airbags, etc., then exactly what safety do you think you give up by turning the engine off and then putting the ignition switch back to the Ignition II position for a coasting segment?

yeah, i know that if it's on the "Ignition II" position, then everything but the engine should be on, but it's just me...but yeah, when does it apply that if a car is moved more than 50 ft and the engine is not on, then damage could occur to the cat?

[ChinoCharles]

Originally Posted by BailOut

Again, if you still have forward momentum, you still have power brakes, you still have power steering and you still have airbags, etc., then exactly what safety do you think you give up by turning the engine off and then putting the ignition switch back to the Ignition II position for a coasting segment?

Ever been in an event where you had to speed up to avoid an accident?

Preach that FAS crap on CleanMPG. No hard feelings, but seriously, there are some battles you hypermilers just won't win here. That is DEFINITELY one of them.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

Ever been in an event where you had to speed up to avoid an accident?

oh yeah, there are some hella stupid ass drivers here in Sac. i can have my turn signal on for at least 5 seconds and have started switching lanes, and some of these stupid mofos here speed up and start honking there horn. and the stupid thing is, they were at least 3 car-lengths back...

[BailOut]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

oh yeah, there are some hella stupid ass drivers here in Sac. i can have my turn signal on for at least 5 seconds and have started switching lanes, and some of these stupid mofos here speed up and start honking there horn. and the stupid thing is, they were at least 3 car-lengths back...

You can always just let them pass you and then move over. Even if you miss your exit it's not the end of the world. No one ever got a trophy for forcing a merge, even when they had the right of way.

Besides, this is not an example of where using speed got you out of an unsafe situation. Instead you helped to create the unsafe situation and locked into a contest of egos with another driver, jeopardizing the safety of both of you in the process.

I just chuckle when I hear about the mystical need for power to get out of bad spots. 99.999999% of the time the first thing any of us do when we sense trouble is hit the brake pedal, not the throttle.

Originally Posted by Black Yaris

Damn dude, with driving skills like that you gotta have the ladies all over you

My wife of 9 years has intelligence, a wit as sharp as a knife, a sense of humor that keeps me in good spirits, keeps our home impeccably clean, cooks for me and brings me my coffee in the morning... all while having platinum blond hair, big blue eyes, eyelashes so long she has trouble wearing some sunglasses, and a DD chest.

As such I'd say I'm doing just fine in my quest for companionship, and she says she feels safer driving with me than anyone else she's ever ridden with.

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

Ohh, so you can see things before they happen, eh Bailout?

I've never needed to. Outside of Hollywood movies things very rarely happen instantaneously... they just appear that way to some folks because they didn't see the warning signs ahead of time. If you pay attention to everything on and near the road, the weather conditions and what other people are doing, it's hard to be surprised.

[Black Yaris]

Originally Posted by BailOut

My wife of 9 years has intelligence, a wit as sharp as a knife, a sense of humor that keeps me in good spirits, keeps our home impeccably clean, cooks for me and brings me my coffee in the morning... all while having platinum blond hair, big blue eyes, eyelashes so long she has trouble wearing some sunglasses, and a DD chest.

sorry, I am not one to bash others wifes as I am also married, and I respect that, but you were so askin for it with that description

[BailOut]

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

Ever been in an event where you had to speed up to avoid an accident?

Nope. Not once in over 20 years of driving on 4 continents.

Such is the power of defensive and anticipatory driving.

[Black Yaris]

Originally Posted by BailOut

Nope. Not once in over 20 years of driving on 4 continents.

Such is the power of defensive and anticipatory driving.

Damn dude, with driving skills like that you gotta have the ladies all over you

[ChinoCharles]

Originally Posted by BailOut

Nope. Not once in over 20 years of driving on 4 continents.

Such is the power of defensive and anticipatory driving.

Ohh, so you can see things before they happen, eh Bailout?



I hope Grandma doesn't pass out at the wheel behind you while you're rolling down a hill.

[Yaris Revenge]

Originally Posted by BailOut

Nope. Not once in over 20 years of driving on 4 continents.

Such is the power of defensive and anticipatory driving.

Bet you'd be one helluva' motorcycle rider, Bail. And bikes naturally get 40-50 mpg... just think of the efficiency you could achieve!

~YR

[kurokoma-kun]

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

Ever been in an event where you had to speed up to avoid an accident?

Not sure if this is what you meant, but yes, I did avoid an accident once by speeding up.

I was on the highway in lots of traffic, all going about 70--just about everyone was on the way to the same big outdoor show so lots of people were horsing around and not paying attention. All of a sudden we came up on traffic at a dead halt and hit the brakes. Dude behind me did not see what was going on in time...I heard his brakes squeal and as I looked in my mirror it was like everything was in super slo mo...I saw the smoke coming off his tires in two big slow swirls, just like a jet engine exhaust. Anyway... in that instant I HIT THE GAS and swerved left onto the shoulder; my friend turned around and watched as the guy plowed right into the back of the car that HAD been in front of me. The impact broke both his arms, poor bastard...he had them braced straight out on the wheel.

In other words, if I had not been in gear my car would've been squashed flatter'n a pancake...