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Old 01-29-2019, 01:43 PM   #19
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As robust as the 1nz was/is, I am a fan of the Mazda engines. Time will tell if the new ones are as reliable, but the older ones certainly were. This will mean more fun power and almost as good fuel efficiency.

Too bad Toyota doesn't make the frame and everything else
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Old 01-29-2019, 02:20 PM   #20
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It also won't have that Demio front end on it. Adding insult to injury, it will have the sad state of affairs front end that they slapped on the "Yaris" sedan.
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Old 01-29-2019, 02:50 PM   #21
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It also won't have that Demio front end on it. Adding insult to injury, it will have the sad state of affairs front end that they slapped on the "Yaris" sedan.
lol @ "sad state of affairs front end"
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Old 01-29-2019, 04:01 PM   #22
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I actually like the kodo-styling and think the hatch has much better proportions than the sedan. I really don't care that it's made by Mazda - I generally find Mazdas very attractive(my 323 was great!) - or made in Mexico - our current Yarii are made in France - it's just the hideous front-end!

However, you can get one like Kaotic posted still in Puerto Rico. Being part of the United States they have to meet all US regulations(even CARB) and getting it registered here is not a problem. The only hiccup is GETTING it here. It costs a little over $800 to put it on a ship to Jacksonville, FL and then you just drive it home! Throw in a nice trip to Puerto Rico and it sounds alright! For me, it would be worth the $800 just for the front-end(if I was in the market for another small hatch). Maybe it's not THAT easy, but who knows...

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Old 01-29-2019, 04:11 PM   #23
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I actually like the kodo-styling and think the hatch has much better proportions than the sedan. I really don't care that it's made by Mazda - I generally find Mazdas very attractive(my 323 was great!) - or made in Mexico - our current Yarii are made in France - it's just the hideous front-end!

However, you can get one like Kaotic posted still in Puerto Rico. Being part of the United States they have to meet all US regulations(even CARB) and getting it registered here is not a problem. The only hiccup is GETTING it here. It costs a little over $800 to put it on a ship to Jacksonville, FL and then you just drive it home! Throw in a nice trip to Puerto Rico and it sounds alright! For me, it would be worth the $800 just for the front-end(if I was in the market for another small hatch). Maybe it's not THAT easy, but who knows...

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https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/20...-mazda-2-carb/
Interesting.
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Old 01-29-2019, 04:13 PM   #24
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Here's a little more info specifically about the Mazda2 and importing from Puerto Rico:

https://jalopnik.com/here-is-how-you...a-2-1827293464
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Old 01-29-2019, 04:46 PM   #25
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Dang, 17-20 grand for the 2 hatch in puerto rico...no thanks
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:01 PM   #26
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Find a Mazda 3 that's over 4 years old with out rust. There's your quality.
Wow our mazda5 2012 is well, 7 years old now, 110000km and has no rust. Nothing that comes out of the cracks or corners. All doors are perfect. Nothing in the hood hinges.

Same for both Mazda 3 2010 we've had for 6 years 120k and 150k km. Nothing apparent for a 6 years old car that never been rust proofed and not taken care of by the drivers.

We also had a 2011 mazda2. The car has been dead reliable, and rust free for the 6 years we've had it. This one we only got rid of because something hit the AC condenser and wasn't worth fixing considering it wasn't being driven enough.

None of them had been rust proofed.

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Old 01-29-2019, 07:59 PM   #27
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Be patient

https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-new...ust-risk-45587

https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...-rust-problem/
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Old 01-29-2019, 08:04 PM   #28
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You obviously don't care about my experience with Mazda cars since 2010. Lol

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Old 01-30-2019, 12:05 AM   #29
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Sure makes the 2013 Yaris 'L' Coupe I have look vintage! It's been a great car these past almost 6 years, wow, hard to believe...
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Old 01-30-2019, 10:05 PM   #30
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Old 01-31-2019, 09:20 AM   #31
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You obviously don't care about my experience with Mazda cars since 2010. Lol

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Hey, that's awesome. I don't want to hear that anyone's car is rusting out on them. I'm just speaking from experience. Here in the golden horse shoe, the municipalities are salt crazy. Many townships outsice the cities will use a salt and sand mix on their roads. I can say from experience (driving plows for these municipalities) Toronto, York region, peel region and Durham region and most likely the greater Hamilton region use solely salt and salt brine... in mass quantities. Winter roads in York region are white.. and not from snow. They have a zero tolerance policy for snow and ice.

Possibility your Mazdas aren't seeing the concentrations of salt that say tmontague, wee yari, and myself See?

Just saying there's a ton of rusty Mazda here in the greater Toronto area.

Also some food for thought.... my car has had bad scratches for years. Metal exposed and everything. In 2 years I haven't noticed the corrosion getting much worse, if at all really. I don't rustproof either. Maybe Toyota just uses better Metal? Surely better than the metal on my ram. I never have too bad of a time with stuck bolts on my yaris. Wish I could say that for the dodge.
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Old 01-31-2019, 09:23 AM   #32
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http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/happ...irthday-mazda/

99 years later they're building toyotas, lol
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Old 01-31-2019, 09:30 AM   #33
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Yea they started off making wine corks lol
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Old 01-31-2019, 10:18 AM   #34
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Possibility your Mazdas aren't seeing the concentrations of salt that say tmontague, wee yari, and myself See?



Just saying there's a ton of rusty Mazda here in the greater Toronto area.
Pay closer attention to model years. Since 2010, Mazda has vastly improved their rust resilience. Pre 2010, Mazda3s and 6s were turning to Swiss cheese by the age of 5. Worst modern day vehicles ever for premature corrosion. Much better now.


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Old 01-31-2019, 12:59 PM   #35
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Pay closer attention to model years. Since 2010, Mazda has vastly improved their rust resilience. Pre 2010, Mazda3s and 6s were turning to Swiss cheese by the age of 5. Worst modern day vehicles ever for premature corrosion. Much better now.


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Cool. I'm not much into Mazdas so I will honestly say I don't pay much attention to model years
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:26 AM   #36
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A counter argument is on no brand specific car message boards, many say "Finally, Toyota is bringing out a new Yaris hatch".

With car sales down, car companies have to share these days.

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