Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by TOLMACH

Interesting results you have.. Normally people never go back to 2 ways system after playing with 3 way ones.

I usually do not care a lot about the sound stage and imaging, as IMO both these concepts are overly exegerrated in car audio.. (have some experiance with EMMA competitions) .. I am more concerned with getting proper tonal accuracy and spectral balance.. again.. that said, somehow (quite unexpectedly) I have gotten quite a nice stage im my yaris.. if I close my eyes, sound stage seems something like 10 or 12 inches wider that my A-pillars..

we both understand what midranges play a huge role in staging.. and yours are looking more towards each other while mine are somewhat more pointed towards the front listeners.. I was kinda suspecting you'd get a much better stage..

again.. these are just my thoughts

pls, keep us informed about your next experiments

Thanks TOLMACH, the little 6.5 woofer makes a great SQ system, I should called "A personal SQ experience". Will keep you up to date!

2 or 3 way:
I'm not going with a 2 way, I'm going to end up with a 3way!, because of the physical proportions, geometry and cabin construction I'm going to use a 3 way, what I was saying is that because my Mids (in a-pillars) are at the same distance to my ears (PLDs) than my Lows in the OEM door location. What makes the 2 way sound wider because the Lows in doors are farther apart from each other, compare to the Mids in the a-pillars.

But to improve my system, I can move my Mids to the a-frame, farther distance I can get from my ears, this way my PLDs will be shorter by doing this I will get most of my 3 way system, better than what I have now.

I agree with proper tonal accuracy and spectral balance, but first I need to get physically everything in the right place.

I had my Mids at some point looking at the listeners (if you look back in this thread, or see photos below) and yes the stages seems wider, open a window and it's gone, I got the conclusion that the reflexion of the side windows was helping to wide the stage, but also was screwing my image by creating a "V" shape, for example when I play the 7 drum track (see image below). That is why I change my Mids to the a-pillar, Sqcomp advice me about putting in the a-frame, I should have listened to him! further and far apart is better.