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Old 05-17-2009, 06:35 PM   #1
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because like any other system it is corrupt and unequal. I come from a former communist country and we all hated that system, no matter how hard you worked you would get passed over by some crooked and well connected slacker that would take your place, now i was too young to experience this myself but my parents did. socialism/communism means that everyone is equal but that just in theory in real life it goes against the basic human nature of being better/stronger/wealthier than the other person. Karl Marx had a great theory and a beautiful concept except it was an utopia. none of the present systems are perfect and there will never be one.
If "like any other system it is corrupt and unequal" then that's really not a reason to dislike it....

If you think success under Capitalism is based on merit then you haven't worked in the corporate world at all. Cronyism is a human condition not a symptom of political/social ideology. Have you seen how great the income disparity in the US is these days? I have no problem with people making lots of money but first they must deserve it. Unfortunately that's usually not the case as evinced by the financial sector meltdown that still rewarded those responsible with huge pay and bonuses.

A political/social system is only as "honest" as those that operate within it and seeing as how the majority of people are corrupt or corruptable and ultimately self interested it doesn't matter what tenets or rules apply. In other words, people suck.
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Old 05-17-2009, 06:40 PM   #2
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If "like any other system it is corrupt and unequal" then that's really not a reason to dislike it....

If you think success under Capitalism is based on merit then you haven't worked in the corporate world at all. Cronyism is a human condition not a symptom of political/social ideology. Have you seen how great the income disparity in the US is these days? I have no problem with people making lots of money but first they must deserve it. Unfortunately that's usually not the case as evinced by the financial sector meltdown that still rewarded those responsible with huge pay and bonuses.

A political/social system is only as "honest" as those that operate within it and seeing as how the majority of people are corrupt or corruptable and ultimately self interested it doesn't matter what tenets or rules apply. In other words, people suck.
People don't suck, but sometimes people do sucky things.

Did want to mention ONE giant difference between Corporations and Communism. A Corporation might have you killed but they cannot always do it under the color of law. In a communist nation there is no law only political influence.

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Old 05-17-2009, 07:31 PM   #3
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Boo to no answer. :p Alright if I really want an answer I'll create a new thread. :)
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