Smoking Ban? Drinking Ban!

[nemelek]

Most people do drink responsibility. Over 50% of alcohol consumed is drank by 10% of the population. It is the 10% that bloody our highways.

[p123456789]

Maybe they should invent some sort of douche bag screening device at the entrances of bars and sporting events to tell If your going to act like an a hole before you even enter.
I went to my first baseball game and I was stuck next to the bad drinker guy who though it was funny to yell names at the players he didnt like it got super old. I am so glad they killed smoking though its so gross to sit down at a table to see a nasty ash try full of butts makes me throw up. It doesn't matter what it is there will always be the one guy to screw it up for the rest of us.

[JumpmanYaris]

Originally Posted by p123456789

Maybe they should invent some sort of douche bag screening device at the entrances of bars and sporting events to tell If your going to act like an a hole before you even enter.
I went to my first baseball game and I was stuck next to the bad drinker guy who though it was funny to yell names at the players he didnt like it got super old. I am so glad they killed smoking though its so gross to sit down at a table to see a nasty ash try full of butts makes me throw up. It doesn't matter what it is there will always be the one guy to screw it up for the rest of us.

dbag alert

[chrisj]

^ I agree!

[TLyttle]

Easy, there, Kevin, we are different from them. Notice that his first concern was "giving up weapons". When one is raised in a culture where weapons are one's first concern, every other civil attitude is bent to the right. Because we are from a different culture, we don't understand this devotion. Note the difference between their pledge to the flag, and our pledge to the Queen: theirs goes on and on, ours is just 2 words.

We have to live beside the US, and they have lobbyists here whose job it is to convert Canada into the US way of life, ie, get rid of universal health care, promote guns, stop welfare, all that stuff that doesn't conform to the American Ideal.

If this sound harsh, it isn't meant to be, it is just the conclusions I have come to after dealing with the Americans, individually and politically, for 50 years. It is just something to keep in mind...

[.Kevin.]

Originally Posted by TLyttle

Easy, there, Kevin, we are different from them. Notice that his first concern was "giving up weapons". When one is raised in a culture where weapons are one's first concern, every other civil attitude is bent to the right. Because we are from a different culture, we don't understand this devotion. Note the difference between their pledge to the flag, and our pledge to the Queen: theirs goes on and on, ours is just 2 words.

We have to live beside the US, and they have lobbyists here whose job it is to convert Canada into the US way of life, ie, get rid of universal health care, promote guns, stop welfare, all that stuff that doesn't conform to the American Ideal.

If this sound harsh, it isn't meant to be, it is just the conclusions I have come to after dealing with the Americans, individually and politically, for 50 years. It is just something to keep in mind...

It's hard to restrain with such .. impossible arguements makes me wanna just rip my hair out at some of the most oblivious comparisons.

I honestly think wellfare shouldnt get taken away, but it should not be handed out so easy. OH this person decided to let their life slip ! It's our duty to take care of them! Just like handing money to first nations etc not to be racist because its basically the same thing as wellfare.

Ridiculous but thats for another day. Apologies to any offenses I've made.

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by TLyttle

Easy, there, Kevin, we are different from them. Notice that his first concern was "giving up weapons". When one is raised in a culture where weapons are one's first concern, every other civil attitude is bent to the right. Because we are from a different culture, we don't understand this devotion. Note the difference between their pledge to the flag, and our pledge to the Queen: theirs goes on and on, ours is just 2 words.

We have to live beside the US, and they have lobbyists here whose job it is to convert Canada into the US way of life, ie, get rid of universal health care, promote guns, stop welfare, all that stuff that doesn't conform to the American Ideal.

If this sound harsh, it isn't meant to be, it is just the conclusions I have come to after dealing with the Americans, individually and politically, for 50 years. It is just something to keep in mind...

Well, I'm glad the forefathers of America had the backbone not to lie down on their flanks with their tails tucked...guess the grit they showed then keeps us from giving our "pledge to the Queen" today. And I've also had a dealing or two...once when I was trying to get into Canada, to spend those nasty American tourist $$, the gentleman informed me that I'd have to pay to get in, and when I asked what the "fine" would be, he asked "How much money do you have?" ...wrong answer

[.Kevin.]

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

Well, I'm glad the forefathers of America had the backbone not to lie down on their flanks with their tails tucked...guess the grit they showed then keeps us from giving our "pledge to the Queen" today. And I've also had a dealing or two...once when I was trying to get into Canada, to spend those nasty American tourist $$, the gentleman informed me that I'd have to pay to get in, and when I asked what the "fine" would be, he asked "How much money do you have?" ...wrong answer

United States was never able to Convert/Conquer Canada and Canada won one war.

Also - not protecting Canada or anything here seeing as I'm from Spain. But guess what - Spain was led by kings etc and we owned the world basically at one point.

Another arguement that doesnt make sense.

Inb4 - That was then this is now.

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by .Kevin.

United States was never able to Convert/Conquer Canada and Canada won one war.

Also - not protecting Canada or anything here seeing as I'm from Spain. But guess what - Spain was led by kings etc and we owned the world basically at one point.

Another arguement that doesnt make sense.

Inb4 - That was then this is now.

Not sure what the ancient history lesson of Spain's defeat had to do with Canada bending knee to England's queen today, unless it's tied to Spain's defeat at the hands of the English fleet centuries ago

[.Kevin.]

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

Not sure what the ancient history lesson of Spain's defeat had to do with Canada bending knee to England's queen today, unless it's tied to Spain's defeat at the hands of the English fleet centuries ago

Lol, Spains defeat. Thats why our religion and language still is influenced, and we still have gold etc that we got from years ago.

America doesn't even have it's name anymore, the forefathers were badasses. Now the one protecting its name are just jibber jabber.

Btw we defeated their navy, which is why we broke free of them and started conquering, Persians invaded Spain England helped Spain get them out - once cleansed noble blood marriages were made to try and form peace, Spain was unreliable allies because we didn't like England it was using eachother and getting along both ways, then Spain beat them.

I like how youre turning two superior countries in comparison as if you know I proved you wrong.

Tough luck.

EDIT:

You didn't even understand the initial point of what I said forget my arguement.

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by TLyttle

Easy, there, Kevin, we are different from them. Notice that his first concern was "giving up weapons". When one is raised in a culture where weapons are one's first concern, every other civil attitude is bent to the right. Because we are from a different culture, we don't understand this devotion. Note the difference between their pledge to the flag, and our pledge to the Queen: theirs goes on and on, ours is just 2 words.

We have to live beside the US, and they have lobbyists here whose job it is to convert Canada into the US way of life, ie, get rid of universal health care, promote guns, stop welfare, all that stuff that doesn't conform to the American Ideal.

If this sound harsh, it isn't meant to be, it is just the conclusions I have come to after dealing with the Americans, individually and politically, for 50 years. It is just something to keep in mind...

Have to say that this post is disturbing.

You're basically saying that less freedom is superior. That socialism is better. And you're proud of that?

I happen to be proud not to have to pledge to a King or Queen.

Even though the left is quickly grabbing all of our freedoms in America, we are going to fight like hell to keep them.

Weapons aren't our first concern, freedom and liberty is.

[Kal-El]

Drinking will never be banned from bars and restaurants. Obviously that would mean abolishing bars.

But I can foresee the argument for banning alcohol at sporting events. Reason being is that public intoxication is already illegal and a stadium of 40,000 people seems pretty public to me. Kind of seems like a double sided rule. Also, a sporting event is filled with kids who may be surrounded by drunks. You don't find kids in bars.

But ultimately, I think the law would be another unnecessary piece of legislation that takes one more bite out of freedom. I personally hate alcohol but regardless, such a freedom shouldn't be taken away.

[frownonfun]

i think we should just ban alcohol out right. i think it would work. lol.

ok i'm kidding but really though i'm not sure why everyone is so bent on protecting a freedom that ultimately just ends up getting people killed. that's really all alcohol does. but this is a tough one to call for me.

on the one hand i feel like as long as the government is allowing you to do it in your own home then what's the harm in taking it away everywhere else? except bars maybe. but on the other hand would that really do anything to curb drinking and driving or people becoming unruly at events that would normally serve alcohol. i'm sure people would just get extremely lit at their houses first as a way to get around this and then go driving drunk to their event of choice. and if they don't kill someone along the way they'll show up and be that drunk jerk regardless.

idk. i definitely see where the OP is coming from but like i said it's a tough one to call for me.

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by frownonfun

i think we should just ban alcohol out right. i think it would work. lol.

ok i'm kidding but really though i'm not sure why everyone is so bent on protecting a freedom that ultimately just ends up getting people killed. that's really all alcohol does. but this is a tough one to call for me.

on the one hand i feel like as long as the government is allowing you to do it in your own home then what's the harm in taking it away everywhere else? except bars maybe. but on the other hand would that really do anything to curb drinking and driving or people becoming unruly at events that would normally serve alcohol. i'm sure people would just get extremely lit at their houses first as a way to get around this and then go driving drunk to their event of choice. and if they don't kill someone along the way they'll show up and be that drunk jerk regardless.

idk. i definitely see where the OP is coming from but like i said it's a tough one to call for me.

Doesn't seem like you are aware of Prohibition and the problems it caused.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibi..._United_States

It causes more problems to a society than having alcohol openly and legally available.


The key to preventing drunk driving is to increase the severity of punishment.

How often do you hear about people getting their 3rd, 4th, 5th, ect...drunk driving arrest/accident? All the time, right? How is it that they get that many chances to kill someone?

IMO, your FIRST offense should make your life suck for quite a while.
Jail for 3-6 months, no license for at least 2 years.

Your second offense should put you in jail for over 2 years, maybe 3. No license for 5-7 years.

Strike 3 should render you without a license for 10-15 years, including maybe 5 years in prison. Harsh, but well deserved for such stupidity and putting others lives at risk.

If these reasonable punishments were enacted, how many drunk drivers would you see?

[SailDesign]

Originally Posted by Kal-El

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The key to preventing drunk driving is to increase the severity of punishment.

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And yet, even with the death penalty, people keep murdering people......

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by SailDesign

And yet, even with the death penalty, people keep murdering people......

Yup, unfortunately we will always have stupid people.

I think it comes down to most people believing that they will get away with the crime they are committing. And lets face it, we all get away with breaking petty everyday "crimes", whether that just means going 5 mph over the speed limit. If we lived under such a regime that would actually hook up our cars electronically to monitor speed, and if we passed the speed limit we'd get bills in the mail. Then I doubt many would speed at all.

If people believed that it was a 100% certainty that they'd get caught doing something illegal and have to face the penalty, then wow, we'd have a perfect society (assuming laws were legitimate). Unless the person felt so strongly about the crime that they felt it was worth spending the time in jail or even dying for.

[SailDesign]

Originally Posted by Kal-El

If we lived under such a regime that would actually hook up our cars electronically to monitor speed, and if we passed the speed limit we'd get bills in the mail.

Then all our cars would be linked together and we'd call it a "bus".
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[frownonfun]

well the prohibition comment was a joke. i'm aware of how terribly that went. therein lies the joke. which is why i laugh at the prohibition on other drugs. because we are repeating history having not learned the first time.

i don't know why i type more than one line on a forum because i think that's all people are willing to read.