Camber, pull, roll, mini widebody and stock wheels = :-(

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Yup, toe-in is the killer of tires.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

Yup, toe-in is the killer of tires.

Not only toe-in...

I had camber in the rear for a while until I noticed the wear on my tires, they get noisy too (that's how I become aware for this issue).

Even the camber made my car look cool, and turn better I just couldn't afford the rubber.

You can see I had very little camber, but the geometry of the suspension + camber kills the rubber too, unfortunately:



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[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

Not only toe-in...

I had camber in the rear for a while until I noticed the wear on my tires, they get noisy too (that's how I become aware for this issue).

Even the camber made my car look cool, and turn better I just couldn't afford the rubber.

You can see I had very little camber, but the geometry of the suspension + camber kills the rubber too, unfortunately:



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lol, I'm not saying that camber won't kill your tires, but when people say, "yeah, my camber killed my tires," in reality it's the toe problem. Camber is just making less contact patch with the road, as if you're driving with really narrow tires. Also, camber in the rear doesn't really help a fwd car in turning. hehe.

Your tires might have started feathering, which may have been what caused them to be louder.


I would like to have your rims, btw. hehehe

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

lol, I'm not saying that camber won't kill your tires, but when people say, "yeah, my camber killed my tires," in reality it's the toe problem. Camber is just making less contact patch with the road, as if you're driving with really narrow tires. Also, camber in the rear doesn't really help a fwd car in turning. hehe.

Your tires might have started feathering, which may have been what caused them to be louder.


I would like to have your rims, btw. hehehe

Kao... Yes you are right,
I'm so naive in this topic and when I noticed the wear and studied the geometric of the suspension, it was clear to me that... when the wheel travels up and down the camber converts into toe. )o:

Thanks Kao, coming from you it's a big compliment (I know how honest your are when you don't like some thing) the O.Z. Ultraleggera have been a great match, not only with looks but overall performance.




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[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

Kao... Yes you are right,
I'm so naive in this topic and when I noticed the wear and studied the geometric of the suspension, it was clear to me that... when the wheel travels up and down the camber converts into toe. )o:

Thanks Kao, coming from you it's a big compliment (I know how honest your are when you don't like some thing) the O.Z. Ultraleggera have been a great match, not only with looks but overall performance.




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No problem. Yeah, it took me some time to know what I know about suspension (still got tons more to know tho). Basic thinking is when ever a car is lowered (or suspension compressed), more negative camber is added. And when more negative camber is added, more toe-in occurs. So if you ever want to adjust your toe, adjust camber first, then adjust the toe.

No problem. I've always liked your sedan. So clean!

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

No problem. I've always liked your sedan. So clean!

Yeah right! here is the owner of the cleanest Yaris sedan in the US speaking, and the inspiration for many, including my self.

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[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

Yeah right! here is the owner of the cleanest Yaris sedan in the US speaking, and the inspiration for many, including my self.

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No really, I really like yours. Maybe it's also because I wanted a Barcelona Red sedan. hahahaha