Fuel Economy

[TRD_Yaris]

hehe..actually the "starting in 2nd gear" doesn't really apply ..only to cars that have MUCH larger engines than they were originally intended for, and short gearing. The Owners manual actually warns against starting in 2nd :P
i hope i haven't misled anyone there.. i was just reminiscing (spelling sux cuz i'm tired)

[swng]

Apart from the Yaris, the Nissan Versa is another fine example of an automatic version achieving more or less the same fuel economy as its standard transmission couterpart. Please see:
www.nissanusa.com/versa/specifications.html. Please click open the page and click "Fuel Economy" near the middle of the page, under the car's picture.
Note that not only the CVT version but also the regular automatic version can produce numbers close to or better than those of the stick shift version.
Definitely a good trend for fans of automatic gear boxes.

[Chaad32]

The Nissan Versa and the Honda Fit made out better according to Road and Track magazine than the Yaris (I'm sorry I couldn't bring up the web page), but I stil like the Yaris styling better.

[Ziv]

Update:

470 Clicks / 35 Litre.

Blast my A/C quite often tho, 80/20 Cty/Hwy. = 7.44 L/100 Km

[Chris07LB]

I knocked off another cool 400 miles in my tank this past week... :headbang:

Lovin' this car! :biggrin:

[swng]

The rising gas prices are actually helping the Yaris to gain popularity, and , I dare say, affection.

On this thread, you are going to see more and more :smile: :cool: :wub: :headbang: :clap: :thumbsup: :w00t: :thumbup: etc.

Even :burnrubber: will not hurt your wallet too much if you do it safely without excessive :drinking:, with a Yaris of course :wink: :laugh: :biggrin:.


:respekt: to all who post their fuel economy here!

[Chaad32]

I thought my co-workers would laugh at my choice of car, but instead the were jelous....o yeah

[Ziv]

Yeah, my Yaris was the only Yaris outside of work parking lot, now there is three. another hatch (like mine) and a sedan. bahahaha. It really get people to notice and ask around until they found out the first Yaris is mine, they start asking about 1. Price, 2. How is it on Gas. Hahahaa.

[Chris07LB]

I thought my co-workers would laugh at my choice of car, but instead the were jelous....o yeah

Well I work at/for THE largest oil refinery on the East Coast, and my co-workers actually like my choice of beater. :biggrin: I have a rather long commute, so when they spend 120+ bucks a week on gas, they go nuts when I say I just got another 400 miles out of a tank. :eek: :laugh:

[swng]

And the important thing is we give up little to achieve our fuel economy. We still sit comfortably in our drivers' seats, our cars are still relatively roomy, we still get the convenience features we want ,our cars are still quite agile, long trips are still comfortable, and yet we save money on fuel....................:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:.

[Chris07LB]

And the important thing is we give up little to achieve our fuel economy. We still sit comfortably in our drivers' seats, our cars are still relatively roomy, we still get the convenience features we want ,our cars are still quite agile, long trips are still comfortable, and yet we save money on fuel....................:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:.

Sounds like there should be an AMEN or something after reading that! :biggrin:

[swng]

:bow:

[Ryu]

My automatic yaris just fill up with 23.864L and travelled 370.1km
That is 6.45L/100km or 36.48miles per US gallon or
43.81miles per Imperial gallon.

[swng]

That is better than the results achieved by my auto HB this far:drool::mad:.
Not by a long shot though:biggrin:.

[Basscat]

Best fill so far was today, 40.6 MPG US. Worst tank so far was about 37. 3800 miles so far, and I live and drive in a hilly rural environment, so not much city driving, and the most recent fill was largely highway. I'm still loving my MT S Sedan :smile:

[johnnyfive]

anyone else have to regularly fill up in a "reformulated" (10% ethanol) area?

i am only getting 33-36 mpg, but can only run this crap gas..i "think" that i get better milage when i am outside of this 2 county (the one i live in, and the one i comute to work in) zone

just wondering if it is just me wanting to belive that i get better milage when not running what i subconsisly think is "bad gas," or if the gas is the reason for my lower than average MPG's

i tend to think of myself as a good, eficient driver, but still low milage's...

[TRD_Yaris]

That is better than the results achieved by my auto HB this far:drool::mad:.
Not by a long shot though:biggrin:.


doom doom doom, doom doom doom, doom doom doom!!!!!!!!!
doom dood doom, doom doom doom!
anybody else wanna sing the doom song? it doesn' cost a dime...and is SOOOO fun to siiinnnnnnngggg!!!

[Chris07LB]

doom doom doom, doom doom doom, doom doom doom!!!!!!!!!
doom dood doom, doom doom doom!
anybody else wanna sing the doom song? it doesn' cost a dime...and is SOOOO fun to siiinnnnnnngggg!!!


Ill sing along! :laugh: :drinking: :drinking: :drinking:

[tds12]

Manual HB: First tank 42 all highway.

[07WYarisRS]

anyone else have to regularly fill up in a "reformulated" (10% ethanol) area?

i am only getting 33-36 mpg, but can only run this crap gas..i "think" that i get better milage when i am outside of this 2 county (the one i live in, and the one i comute to work in) zone

just wondering if it is just me wanting to belive that i get better milage when not running what i subconsisly think is "bad gas," or if the gas is the reason for my lower than average MPG's

i tend to think of myself as a good, eficient driver, but still low milage's...

The higher the ethanol volume the more fuel you will use.
On the bright side it's a cleaner burning fuel.
if you switch and run a non ethanol fuel your mileage will increase slightly

[Chaad32]

Hmmm I thought the ethonol fuel was bad for the car?.....thats good to hear that it is cleaner fuel because I live in a 10% ethonol area too.

[asa805]

Funny how the 10% blends (which you will see a difference in MPG) are still the same price as regular non blended gas. Really pisses me off!

Im in a ethanol blend state (NY) and really see the difference in my numbers (im getting 26mpg avg.). It may involve other factors but im contributing the gas to a big percent (along with making lots of short trips).

Anyone know how to research which areas do and do not have 10% ethanol?

[rstb88]

No idea on that last question, but whats the difference between summerblend and winter? And I barely ever breech 300miles to the tank. I make about 27mile to the gallon. I drive mainly city.

[swng]

In places where winter is cold, additional additives are put into the fuel sold in winter and they hurt fuel economy, by causing a reduction in the actual fuel content compared wtih the same amount of fuel sold in summer, even if not for other reasons.
Ethanol may not be good for fuel economy, but it does help produce cleaner exhausts. Cars that barely fail exhaust tests (called Air Care in BC) may have a slightly better chance of passing after a switch of fuel (to some with adequate ethanol content), depending on what have caused the failures:smile:.

[johnnyfive]

so it isnt just in my head that the gas is the culpret of my low milage, that is atleast good to know :)

got 43 mpg on a tank over the weakend, all highway, and with regular gas :)

[Buckethead]

After having her aprox. 7 days, I got about 265 out of the tank, and that's with the last bar flashing. Keep in mind I've had the air blasting since I bought her, and do mainly city driving. My driving ratio would be 80% city-20% Hgwy.

I had the A/C running from 1-4 all week long.


I did fill her up with only 30$, which was cool, hopefully that will get me another week or week and a half.

That average is roughly 23 miles a gallon.
Trust, it'll get better.

:burnrubber:

[oktaren]

i drive about 125 miles roundtrip everyday during the week. the car had about 4k miles on it when i bought it about 10 days ago...and during that time i have been getting between 40-43 mpg.

oh and that isn't being supercareful and driving for better mpg...also the air conditioner was on the whole time.

[Henshin]

i get a consistance 32.5 mpg with my ac running

[asa805]

so it isnt just in my head that the gas is the culpret of my low milage, that is atleast good to know :)

got 43 mpg on a tank over the weakend, all highway, and with regular gas :)


Jeez i dont know why you are complaining. Thats great gas mileage. The avg. on the sticker is 34/39 for auto and just slightly better for stick. I personally think that many of the people that are reporting over 40 numbers probably either a) do only highway driving for long periods of time or b) arent calculating their numbers properly. Sounds like you are getting great gas mileage and should not complain ... also its bound to get better.

Now my 26 avg. mpg is dismal and upsetting. So far everyone i have read with numbers like mine on this and other forums have lived in either LA or NYC. hmmmm makes me wonder...:confused:

[featherz]

I'm in California and drive up and down a mountain each day (6000 feet all the way to sea level), A/C on, manual tranny. First tank was 36.5 MPG. Not too bad, although I hope it improves.

[stuffy]

just got back from a 3k trip to Boston, from my hometown of london, ON,

my average fuel economy for the trip was an amazing 5.7 L p/100km or 41.27 mpg (u.s.), this is for 95% highway 5% city (estimation). AC was on low (setting #1 or 2) the whole time, speed was about 110 km/h (68 mph) for the most part. tire pressure checked before the trip.
13 500 km (8400miles) on the car at the end of trip.

this was the first time i have driven a full tank on completely highway miles and was really impressed to have such good numbers.

really nice trip by the way, great highways through upper new york state and massachusetts, well maintained with some nice views off to the sides.

[Ryu]

Those mpg thatSome people report in might be either miles per US gallon or miles per Imperial gallon.
That might confuse people sometimes so it is good to specify either it is US gallon or Imperial gallon


Jeez i dont know why you are complaining. Thats great gas mileage. The avg. on the sticker is 34/39 for auto and just slightly better for stick. I personally think that many of the people that are reporting over 40 numbers probably either a) do only highway driving for long periods of time or b) arent calculating their numbers properly. Sounds like you are getting great gas mileage and should not complain ... also its bound to get better.

Now my 26 avg. mpg is dismal and upsetting. So far everyone i have read with numbers like mine on this and other forums have lived in either LA or NYC. hmmmm makes me wonder...:confused:

[stuffy]

i also want to note that on my trip, we were lugging around 3 people, one man, one woman, one child and a whole bunch of junk, so the car was a bit on the heavy side

[TRD_Yaris]

My last two tanks have fetched me right at 30 mpg for pure city DELIVERY DRIVING (not exactly slow-paced). but, i haven't even broken the car in yet, so I'm HOPING it will get atleast a bit better. I haven't had the chance to highway cruise, so I can't say as to what it would be.
I use a SCANGAUGE II unit, and it seems to be EXTREMELY ACCURATE on fuel consumption. The last tank i filled up (same pump as previous fillup, filled up the same "way") was 10.494 gallons for 310 miles, and the scangauge said i used 10.5 gallon. I even took a camera phone picture cuz i thought it was so amazing!.

I hope to take a 300+ mile trip this month, and I'm looking to cruise at ~60mph instead of my usual ~80mph. My biggest complaint about the USDM Yaris so far is the short 5th gear. I have no problem with power, just shifting too darn much in the city and being too high in the RPMs when highway cruising. Though, a lack of tachometer hides this fact from most people in the liftbacks :confused:

[johnnyfive]

Jeez i dont know why you are complaining. Thats great gas mileage. The avg. on the sticker is 34/39 for auto and just slightly better for stick. I personally think that many of the people that are reporting over 40 numbers probably either a) do only highway driving for long periods of time or b) arent calculating their numbers properly. Sounds like you are getting great gas mileage and should not complain ... also its bound to get better.

Now my 26 avg. mpg is dismal and upsetting. So far everyone i have read with numbers like mine on this and other forums have lived in either LA or NYC. hmmmm makes me wonder...:confused:


read back, i was complaining about the 10% ethanol blend being the problem with my 30-35 mpg's and was stoked to get 40+ with non ethenol blended gas.

as for LA getting poor milage, i know they are on the same 10% blend we have here in milwaukee (only know because they are the only ones who regularly beat us out for highist price gas) and i would suspect NYC is also on the ethenol blend...

[swng]

Update:

Last tank resulted in 597.2 km with 43.126 liters. That means approx:

13.85 km/liter
7.2 liters/100 km
39 mpg (Imp)
32.6 mpg (US)

About 65% highway/35% city driving. The highway trips were quite short ( about 22 km per trip) and that hurt. A/C was on most of the time. Carried at least one passenger and some belongings most of the time.

[ketel0ne]

After 1380 miles these are my first 4 tanks. Liftback, Auto, A/C running whole time.

08/04/2006 36.96 mpg
08/01/2006 36.31 mpg
07/30/2006 34.42 mpg
07/26/2006 34.71 mpg

U.S.

[Katana]

Yesterday I used only 5.7lt/100km!It's crazy!!!

[Dylanby]

Yesterday I used only 5.7lt/100km!It's crazy!!!

Diesel or petrol?

[Katana]

Petrol.Too bad I didnt take a photo!

[sroberts]

Filled up this morning for the first time at 352 miles. Put in 9.5 gallons and only spent $28. :biggrin: Got 36.2 mpg(US) on my first tank! That is with about 80% city and 20% highway, and about 50% of the time with the a/c on. I am very happy with the results so far and I havent even broken the engine in yet. :w00t:

[Katana]

Guys how do we convert mpg to lt/100km?

[stuffy]

http://www.sciencemadesimple.net/fuel_economy.php

this has been posted before, but for all new people

[Lowfront]

I got 38mpg on my last fill up. I take it easy on the gas. ac on, 40% city 60%highway

[TRD_Yaris]

30 mpg of pure city on the break-in period.

[pauljk]

30 mpg of pure city on the break-in period.

So, to those who've had their Yarii for quite awhile - at what odometer reading does your mileage seem to stop getting better and plateau? In other words, from the standpoint of gas mileage, when is the car fully broken in?

Paul

[TrancosRt]

32.5-33.5 80%City in the break in period. I was expecting a little more MPG, but I expect it to get better with time. In any case, I'm still getting 50miles more per tank than what I usually got in my old car (the max I was able to squeeze it was 305 miles when Wilma destroyed the area down here and everybody drove slowly and carefully)

[Yaris Dick]

First full tank since new, filled up with 370 on the odometer: 90% HWY (AC on constantly and averaging 70 MPH) I got 39.6 MPG.

[Chris07LB]

My best tank yet! 410 miles on the odo at the gas station yesterday! :headbang:

[stuffy]

hey chris07lb, how many gallons did you put in? that is some nice miles for one tank!

[Katana]

http://www.sciencemadesimple.net/fuel_economy.php

this has been posted before, but for all new people

Τnx man!

Oh I am disappointed.

5.6 liters/100 km equals 42.00 miles per gallon...:confused:

[Chris07LB]

hey chris07lb, how many gallons did you put in? that is some nice miles for one tank!

Dont quote me, but I believe it was around 10.something gallons. I can dig out my reciept and take a look.

[Jem_hadar]

Gonna start keeping track of my mileage.

Fillled her up full on Friday when was in TO and recorded my KMs.

Im interested to *finally* see how my vehcile is holding up specifically.

I dunno why i wasnt bothering to record this earlier, lol

[swng]

Gonna start keeping track of my mileage.........
........I dunno why i wasnt bothering to record this earlier, lol

A very good idea:thumbsup:! Please record your fuel economy track record on this thread. Thanks!

This is for easy calculations. I repost it here for your convenience:

http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportation/tools/fuel-trip-calculator/fuel-calculator-input.cfm?attr=16

[Jem_hadar]

A very good idea:thumbsup:! Please record your fuel economy track record on this thread. Thanks!

This is for easy calculations. I repost it here for your convenience:

http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportation/tools/fuel-trip-calculator/fuel-calculator-input.cfm?attr=16


Im sure mines gonna be somewhat hurting bc when I do hiway driving, its alwasy on the 400 to TO from my place (200 km approx), and im ALWAYS going atleast a buck 40, often 150 km /h

so thats really gonna kill my efficency. The rest of my clicks are all in my small town (25,000).

[Katana]

It's funny to try and drive economically!!!

[07WYarisRS]

Im sure mines gonna be somewhat hurting bc when I do hiway driving, its alwasy on the 400 to TO from my place (200 km approx), and im ALWAYS going atleast a buck 40, often 150 km /h

so thats really gonna kill my efficency. The rest of my clicks are all in my small town (25,000).

I just spent the weekend up and down the QEW,401,400,11 and back driving like an ass between 130-160 90% of the time and I still got 7L /100km.
The only thing i've done to the car is run Amsoil.

[Katana]

Ιf you are using the 5th gear at about 4000rpm, it's natural to have 7lt/100km.

[argylesocks]

It's funny to try and drive economically!!!

i used to always try to get from point A to point B as quickly as possible. My biggest pet peeve is when people DRIVE in the left lane rather than just using it for passing.. anyways, it used to get me all worked up, and stressed out when stuck behind these morons.

NOW i just drive in the right lane at 60mph and RELAX. Seriously, its awesome. its relaxing and i get to work in a good mood. Plus im saving gas money.
Sure i get places 5 mins later than before, but its all good.

:)

Seriously, i love driving slow now. haha.
i must be getting old.

[Carvin'07]

Assuming US gallon = 3.79L
Imperial gallon = 4.55L

31.4L - 560km = 6.907ImpGal / 8.285USGal & 350 miles = 50.67 imperial MPG or 42.25 US MPG or 5.61 L/100km

34.8L - 608km = 7.655gal / 9.18USGal & 380 miles = 49.64 imperial MPG or 41.39 US MPG or 5.72 L/100km

I am on MEGA-sticky street tires (Kumho Ecsta MX 205/40/17). I acheived this by filling the tank all the way up to the top of the neck and then refilling to the top again to determine volume burned. I accelerate very gently and shift at no higher than 2500 rpm. Each tank had two full throttle accelerations (For each tank: one was from a stop all the way through 1st and 2nd gear and then jumped to 5th to cruise, the second was only 3rd gear to pass a vehicle). I coast to a stop, no engine braking.

The first tank was on my drive to work which is 85% highway on which I usually maintain a speed of 82-87 kph. The second tank was a long drive to the Bruce Penninsula and I maintained the same speed and very few stops. So far I have ~1900 kms on the car! I am very impressed.

[Katana]

i used to always try to get from point A to point B as quickly as possible. My biggest pet peeve is when people DRIVE in the left lane rather than just using it for passing.. anyways, it used to get me all worked up, and stressed out when stuck behind these morons.

NOW i just drive in the right lane at 60mph and RELAX. Seriously, its awesome. its relaxing and i get to work in a good mood. Plus im saving gas money.
Sure i get places 5 mins later than before, but its all good.

:)

Seriously, i love driving slow now. haha.
i must be getting old.

You know it all depends.If you have the right co-driver,the right mood and the right time of the day...

[swng]

So nice to read your posts above gentlemen. I think you are having fun whilst saving money on fuel:thumbup:.
I am addicted to driving economically. Its fun. I get satisfaction every time when I believe I have a new record on fuel economy.
Actually, economical driving style still allows me to drive up to traffic speed in cities or on highways. Generally, it is just things like not racing only to stop in front of a red light or speeding up just to get ahead of one single car and then slow down again. But other than these, one can improve one's cars or skills in many other areas to get better mileage.
It is almost an art not to drive too fast and yet not get people behind to become impatient. However, this is achievable:wink:.

[JaiTomato]

Here's an update:
total distance driven so far: 7486 miles
total amount of fuel bought: 177.14 gallons (18 fill-ups averaging 9.84 gallons)
80% highway
AC on half the time
doing the economical driving style
I think it's not too bad getting 42.25 mpg

[Carvin'07]

Here's an update:
total distance driven so far: 7486 miles
total amount of fuel bought: 177.14 gallons (18 fill-ups averaging 9.84 gallons)
80% highway
AC on half the time
doing the economical driving style
I think it's not too bad getting 42.25 mpg

Hi JaiTomato,

Since you are in the US, you acheived the same as me (see post above)! I also got 42.25 (US) MPG. Since you have a sedan, it is that much MORE impressive!!! :bow:

Nice work!
cheers :cool:

[argylesocks]

Filled up yesterday & got 39mpg (US).

the first 1/2 of the tank was mostly highway... The 2nd 1/2 had alot more city & included moving a ton of stuff for my gf.
no A/C, and kept it around 60-65mph on the highway.

hope to break the 40mpg next tank.

[tds12]

39 MPG on my first tank.

[strider86x]

fuel economy - 33.8 mpg US
transmission - automatic
terrain - flat,occasional hills, but very small
avg length of trips - 7 miles residential (live very close to downtown area)
driving mix - 100% city/0% highway
driving style - very conservative
top speed - 35 mph
AC - 100%
gas - 87 octane
odometer mileage - 4,2?? miles
tire pressure - 40 psi
avg # of passengers - 2 adults and a 7 month old
cargo/towing - none
traffic is almost non-exsistent where i drive...usually take roads less traveled upon.

[amishpriest]

I've only been getting around 27 mpg, 50% a/c, stop and go highway commute 10 miles each way. Obviously, this is greatly dissapointing, but was wondering if anywone else living in an ethanol blend area (or the DC metro area) has had the same problem. So far, I've been filling up with ethanol blended 87...

[Violin]

Yeah - I'm in a 10% ethanol region and I'm only getting about 30(US) mpg in my automatic tranny liftback. Then again I drive 75-80 mph on the highway if I'm not sitting in traffic.

[jbird]

It may be helpful if people gave details in a standardized manner like below.

fuel economy - 41.5 mpg US
transmission - automatic
terrain - flat with few small hills
avg length of trips - 100 miles highway
driving mix - 10% city/90% highway
driving style - very conservative
top speed - 60-65 mph
AC - 0% (windows up)
gas - 10% ethanol blend
odometer mileage - 8,000 miles
tire pressure - 42 psi
avg # of passengers - 1 (driver only)
cargo/towing - none

This would help a lot as people who take short trips that do not allow the engine to warm up may be getting up to 50% less mileage , who are aggressive drivers in an urban environment, or get stuck in major traffic often like in Baltimore/DC or LA should and will get worse fuel economy.

[swng]

Here is an interesting article. It's basically all about fuel economy help sell tiny cars. Some nice words about the Yaris.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/18082006/2/business-market-subcompacts-grows-u-s-fuel-prices-rise.html

[swng]

Just found some gas mileage improvement tips from I Go Cars:
The tips per se are not too different from what I have read from elsewhere. It is the savings achievable listed out in percentage terms which interest me.

http://www.i-go-cars.com/autos/category/gas-mileage/

Also, if you click Gas Saving Tips (or click this - http://www.i-go-cars.com/autos/gas-saving-tips/) and go to the bottom of the page opened, you will find that it says warming up after start is not necessary for modern engines. It is novel to me. It may be right but I would personally recommend to make additional reference to individual cars' user manuals:smile:.

[ketel0ne]

http://www.gassavers.org
http://www.cleanmpg.com

[ECHOKnight2000]

Here is an interesting article. It's is basically all about fuel economy help sell tiny cars. Some nice words about the Yaris.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/18082006/2/business-market-subcompacts-grows-u-s-fuel-prices-rise.html



Very interesting article thanks! GO YARIS!!! Sure the new Aveo may have more features but it still doesn't get the milage in this class, or at least not up to par from what I read even with the new one coming out, then there's the Dawoo...we already know about that.:biggrin:

[swng]

Yes, yes! Also, the Yaris and the Scion together outsell the Aveo. Actually, the Aveo is not bad, I still think that it is mainly the class leading fuel economy that helps the Yaris. Of course, the Yaris' predicted reliability, its cute look and higher resale value have their parts to play too.

[riceboy]

More than anything I think it has to do with the resale, and predicted reliability.. besides all that the Aveo is a much less appealing looking car..

[ChinoCharles]

Officially I found I get 31.5 MPG.

That is 95% city driving and a lead footed kid with a short shifter in the driver's seat.

All in all, not bad. I'm happy.

[ryanrhod]

I've only been getting around 27 mpg, 50% a/c, stop and go highway commute 10 miles each way. Obviously, this is greatly dissapointing, but was wondering if anywone else living in an ethanol blend area (or the DC metro area) has had the same problem. So far, I've been filling up with ethanol blended 87...

I live in the DC metro area. I just got an auto sedan last week and only got like 25 mpg on my first tank, but I wasn't trying too hard to get good mileage. This time, however, I've been following all of the tips I've read, like coasting as much as possible, so I'll see if it improves at all. I have a/c on all the time, and it is 100% city, stop and go with traffic lights.

[Buckethead]

Well, yesterday was the first of "real" challenges. Drove to Menifee CA, Riverside County, I believe. 85 miles from where I live, and it only took 1 bar of my gas tank... Now, on the way back it took 3. I'm currently at about 1/2 a tank, and just slightly under 200 miles.
I go to Vegas in November, we'll see if I can get there on just one tank. When my GF drove, we made it with plenty of gas left. She drives a Subaru outback.

I would say my drive to the location was great, the drive back used up more gas. Oh well. I love my freakin' car!

:headbang:

[swng]

I live in the DC metro area. I just got an auto sedan last week and only got like 25 mpg on my first tank, but I wasn't trying too hard to get good mileage. This time, however, I've been following all of the tips I've read, like coasting as much as possible, so I'll see if it improves at all. I have a/c on all the time, and it is 100% city, stop and go with traffic lights.
Thanks for choosing this thread to make your first post! Welcome! I am sure you will get better and better fuel economy in the days to come as you pay more attention to the matter. You will find that there are lots of fun trying to drive economically. That is having fun whilst saving money:smile::wink:.
Please post updates of your fuel economy at your convenience.
Save and happy motoring!

[Ron]

i was out on several long drives this weekend. one was with the bcmr2 club from langley to manning park, about a 400km round trip. i got about 6.5L/100km on the highway, cruising at a high 120-30km/h, and driving the car quite hard at times up the hills (and i still couldnt keep up, hahaha).

next day, i was up to lytton from vancouver, return trip roughly 500km's. not too sure how much gas i used up. but over those 2 days, boy am i glad i drive a fuel efficient car!

[spacemanoeuvres]

First 5

OD - GAL (US MPG):

395.0 - 11.00 (35.9)
397.4 - 11.00 (36.1)
398.0 - 11.35 (35.1)
377.7 - 10.70 (35.3)
421.5 - 10.86 (38.8)

1,989.6 - 54.93 (36.2)

5 Speed Liftback, 35/65 cty/hwy



Next 6

OD - GAL (US MPG):

400.7 - 11.050 (36.3)
409.5 - 11.340 (36.1)
393.5 - 11.324 (34.7)
339.5 - 09.950 (34.2)
403.2 - 11.288 (35.7)
430.2 - 10.629 (40.5)

4,366.9 - 120.508 (36.2) including first 5.

5 Speed Liftback, 40/60 cty/hwy

Adjusted the tire pressure in the middle of the 2nd to last tank (they were a pinch low) and also adjusted my driving style on the last tank. For example, I now shift gears between 2,700-3,000 rpms instead of 3,000-3,300 rpms. It's also been cooler this week so I didn't have to use the AC as much.

Overall, I'm happy with the fuel economy. I'm anxious to see what the next 5 tanks will yield with my new driving stylee :biggrin:

[Jem_hadar]

Im just waiting to get down to my last bar and then wait abit before I can fuel up... and find out what my first offical mileage will be.

on my 2nd last bar. going to a friend cottage this weekend,t that'll use it up for sure.

and the good part, means till get to fill up in newmarket or richmond hill, where gas is usually like 5 cents cheper than anywhere else :cool:

Jem

[Carvin'07]

FYI I fill up right to the top until it holds no more every time.

Generally:
1st bar = 175 kms.
2nd bar = 260 km
3rd bar = 330 km
4th bar = 405 km

5 speed
4410 kms
90% hwy
A/C rarely used
windows open 1/4 way
3 door
conservative driving style (shift at 2500, slow down out of gear)
205/40/17's and Eibachs :evil:

Last three tanks based on kilometers per EXACT volume of 87 octane.
40.67 imp MPG
41.60 imp MPG
40.22 imp MPG

[redglare45]

Here's an update on the mileage I got on my last tank: Drove about 70% City & 30% Highway. Got 359.8 Miles, filled up with 10.15 gallons...so that's about 35.45 MPG. This was without driving "grandma" style. I think this next tank I'm taking it easier.

[Katana]

Cool.Nice effort there.

The thing is that after making an effort to drive economically, I usually end up putting the pedal to the metal!!!

[ketel0ne]

Just posted my first tank of 40+ mpg. 357 miles of commuting traffic. This week.

[Jem_hadar]

HURTING!

I got only 28.89 US miles per gallon on my most recent tank! :S :frown:

555 km with a 45.19L fill up (45L bc I was right near empty, so I needed to put $5 in it to get me to Newmarket to visit a friend where gas was priced 7 cents cheaper than here locally)

I guess about 300 KM of them were highway kms... on the 400 and 404, but whenever I'm on these roads I usually on average traveling like 140km (sometimes higher at 150km/h and sometimes lower around 120km/h)

That must be whats killing my fuel efficiency, the high speeds at which I'm travel is just needlessly burning extra fuel.

Im not massively concerned about the low mpg on my yaris, bc if I was driving any other car it would also only be worse than the estimates when traveling at such speed.

Though, maybe I will think about traveling a more regular 110km/h next time I'm going to Toronto and back, to try to really improve that fuel efficiency.

I had no idea that traveling at such speeds really was killing my mpg so badly. (sad)

Jem

[TrancosRt]

I usually use Marathon gas and it gives me about 33-34mpg. I used Mobil gas and the milleage went down to 30!!! I'm not using Mobil gas anymore...

[captainzerocool]

That is what I have found out with my sisters and my Camry. The worse the traffic the better the gas mileage. Last week was 90% city driving and I achieved 28mpg. This week is highway only at 75+mph. I got 24.7mpg.

Maybe I need to slow down.

[argylesocks]

That is what I have found out with my sisters and my Camry. The worse the traffic the better the gas mileage. Last week was 90% city driving and I achieved 28mpg. This week is highway only at 75+mph. I got 24.7mpg.

Maybe I need to slow down.

driving at 75mph will kill your FE. slow down to 55-60mph & you will see a jump.

i dont think the bad traffic helped. i think it was the excessive highway speeds that hurt.

i keep it at around 60mph on the highway, and im consistantly getting 39-41mpg average. 60% highway. live in the city with lots of street lights. i would like to see if i can get it a little higher.

[argylesocks]

Just posted my first tank of 40+ mpg. 357 miles of commuting traffic. This week.

NICE!!

last tank i got 41.1 this tank was @ 40 i think mostly cause i have been driving more in the city, lots of lights, lots of short trips...

[swng]

This is an update using the data of the last two tanks together:

1170.5 km (727.35 miles) traveled with 78.06 litres (20.62 US gallons/17.17 Imperial gallons) of gas. All these mean approximately:

6.67 litres/100 km, or
14.9925 km/litre, or
35.27 mpg (US), or
42.36 mpg (Imp).

The ratio between city and highway driving was about 25/75 and the A/C was on about 65% of the time. The load was two people (including the driver) plus some personal belongings most of the time.

[SimmZ]

My girlfriend do near 600 KM with 40L of regular unleaded for mixed city/highway with the Echo. 6.7L / 100KM.

It's great... BUT! I do near 600 KM with 44L of regular unleader for mixed city/highway with my Cavalier... but I have near 150 HP of fun under my feet! 7.3L / 100KM.

Difference? 0.6L / 100 KM more... and around 45 HP more!

[07WYarisRS]

I got my worst two tanks of fuel this past week with hours of sitting in traffic waiting at us/canada customs every day. Still got 500km to a tank, filled the tank and it cost me $25 US for 8.5 gallons @ $2.93 a gallon Sunoco fuel.
I won't run that crap any more.
I usually get about 600km in the same conditions.
I get better mileage running the fuel from Mobil or Sonic.

[Ziv]

HURTING!

I got only 28.89 US miles per gallon on my most recent tank! :S :frown:

555 km with a 45.19L fill up (45L bc I was right near empty, so I needed to put $5 in it to get me to Newmarket to visit a friend where gas was priced 7 cents cheaper than here locally)

I guess about 300 KM of them were highway kms... on the 400 and 404, but whenever I'm on these roads I usually on average traveling like 140km (sometimes higher at 150km/h and sometimes lower around 120km/h)

That must be whats killing my fuel efficiency, the high speeds at which I'm travel is just needlessly burning extra fuel.

Im not massively concerned about the low mpg on my yaris, bc if I was driving any other car it would also only be worse than the estimates when traveling at such speed.

Though, maybe I will think about traveling a more regular 110km/h next time I'm going to Toronto and back, to try to really improve that fuel efficiency.

I had no idea that traveling at such speeds really was killing my mpg so badly. (sad)

Jem

Yeah, I found it hurt a bit when I go near 160km/h on 404. To balance it out, what I do is the following:

Try accelerate the car under 2500rpm on lights. It's hard, because most car would pass you, but it saves sh!tload of gas.
Only turn on A/C on highway, and turn it off when in traffic. Sure, it's hot as hell sometimes, but it's already september, this should be easier than May or June.

By doing so, I get an extra nearly 50~70 km on a tank.

[argylesocks]

just filled up @ $2.65
& got my best tank yet at 41.2mpg
my running average since i purchased is 40.1mpg

im happy.

[Jem_hadar]

New tank, filled up Monday, got 7.29 L/100 km.

Thats an improvement, but still not even the city mileage I was looking for atleast. :(

[sroberts]

NOT that I am doubting you but it just seems impossible to consistantly get that average unless you are on a long road trip. What city/highway % do you drive. How are you calculating your average? 87 oct?

just filled up @ $2.65
& got my best tank yet at 41.2mpg
my running average since i purchased is 40.1mpg

im happy.

[daq421]

People choose the Yaris for a variety of reasons. Many choose it for its fuel economy. This is an important area where the Yaris is believed to out perform its rivals. I think it is appropiate to start a thread for fuel economy here so that members can exchange information on this important topic. My car(see right) has been giving me about 14 kilometers per liter i.e.7.14 liters per 100km. That is about 39.5 miles per imperial gallon or 32.9 miles per US gallon. I believe my numbers are about average among fellow Yaris drivers. I look forward to seeing more postings on this subject.


My average (after 5 tanks) is 35.6 MPG (US GAL)
:headbang: -Peter

[ketel0ne]

Picked this site up from gassavers.org (http://www.gassavers.org), it is for bike routes but tells an interesting story if you put your commute in.

http://www.routeslip.com/elevationgraph.php?map=6724

http://www.routeslip.com/map.php?map=6724

[pxpaulx]

that is a cool little engine.

[Jem_hadar]

NOT that I am doubting you but it just seems impossible to consistantly get that average unless you are on a long road trip. What city/highway % do you drive. How are you calculating your average? 87 oct?

87 oct, yea, regular unleaded.

city/highway *may* be 50/50 or 75/25, in that range.

What I meant was, that if I'm doing say 50 or 25% city driving, you'd think id AT LEAST get the stated city mpg as a bare minimum, or in fact get higher, as I do have a significant portion that is highway.

Ive curtailed my fast speeds, and have tried to coast on the 400 and 404 around 110km/h, 120 TOPS... and not for long, maybe when passing only if I can.

[daq421]

What happened to serious economy?


...but to go to a Yaris and get only marginal economy improvements while taking a drastic hit on performance and vehicle dynamics quality just doesn’t make sense.




I would ask you to define vehicle dynamics...? And quality? This Yaris's fit and finish are excellent.. but in a utilitarian fashion. It's a perfect example of form follows function.. I wanted a compact exterior with a roomy interior, that had all the amenities (P/S, P-Locks, ABS, Cruise, good sound, and air bags, that got better than 30mpg. Well, thats the Yaris.. It's not a sports car, nor is it supposed to be. It's a road-trip, commmuter car and at that it excels.

When the Yaris is viewed for what it is, it's darn near perfect.
-Peter

[ketel0ne]

At over 4600 miles I am now getting 38mpg+ on every tank and on many 60 mile commute segments breaking 41mpg with no issue at all. Air on or off. It is also an Automatic. Doing the speed limit seems to be the biggest contributor.

[nsmitchell]

I have the 5 spoke S model 15s and let me tell ya....I honestly think that they look too small....might.....just might.....look aight if you dropped the car 2 inches, but at stock height...small.

If you ever decide to upgrade your wheels, let me know.

[tomjasz]

85F in light stop and go city traffic (11 miles boths ways) at 5 AM 30.5 MPG with AC on 32 MPG w/o AC.

104F heavy stop and go traffic 28 MPG w/AC to GD hot to test w/o!!!!

Not giving a shit and driving with nut bag Las Vegas drivers a steady 27.5 MPG

[tomjasz]

85F in light stop and go city traffic (11 miles boths ways) at 5 AM 30.5 MPG with AC on 32 MPG w/o AC.

104F heavy stop and go traffic 28 MPG w/AC to GD hot to test w/o!!!!

Not giving a shit and driving with nut bag Las Vegas drivers a steady 27.5 MPG


BTW I do give a shit :thumbup: and am having fun tracking and improving with my new scanguage.

[Snowflake]

Odometer 1100. Mostly highway driving.
Mileage 32.7 US mpg. I hope this gets better. I've been driving about 70mph on the highway, maybe I should slow down even more.

The Canuck 5 door is pretty much the same as the xA, so I should be able to do a few mpg better.

[tomjasz]

Odometer 1100. Mostly highway driving.
Mileage 32.7 US mpg. I hope this gets better. I've been driving about 70mph on the highway, maybe I should slow down even more.

The Canuck 5 door is pretty much the same as the xA, so I should be able to do a few mpg better.


I'm comfortsble doing 70 in my Camry surrounded by airbags. In my Yaris? NO WAY!

I'll bet 65 gets a solid improvement!

Air on?

[nsmitchell]

I've noticed that if I use the bathroom just before leaving to go to or from work, I get better mileage because I'm not speeding as much. :wink: Think about it.:biggrin:

[stuffy]

you also are not as heavy :)

[Don Mason]

Greetings,

I recently passed the 1,000 mile mark on my manual trannie Yaris. I had to make a business trip to Las Vegas from my office, exactly 296 HWY miles. Filled up just before getting on the Freeway, and filled again when I arrived in Las Vegas.

Average HWY speed was 70 MPH. AC on the entire time. Average outside temperature was around 100 F degrees. Fuel milage was 39.4 Miles per US gallon.

I’m very pleased with the result. Great results for a brand new engine. Should see a small improvement once I get some more mileage on the power train.

[roadrunner]

BTW I do give a shit :thumbup: and am having fun tracking and improving with my new scanguage.

Tom,
Do you recommend getting a Scanguage?
Where did you purchase it?
What do you use it for?
Thank you, Roadrunner:smile:

[ECHOKnight2000]

Tom,
Do you recommend getting a Scanguage?
Where did you purchase it?
What do you use it for?
Thank you, Roadrunner:smile:




This thread should give you some ideas...I myself have one as well! Good luck!
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1005&highlight=Scanguage

[yoyoche]

I have 1246 miles on mine after owning 1 month. Have put a total of 34.71 gals in her so far. This averages out to 35.9 MPG. Wife drives her to work mostly, which is through the country here in Indiana. Have had the AC on most of the time. I bought the vehicle for retirement to save some dollars. If it continues to get this kind of mileage then I'm a happy camper.:thumbup:

[tds12]

I have driven a total of 1650 miles on my HB. Overall is 38.9 MPG. When the tank is 100% highway it is 41 MPG. All with the air conditioning on.

[bpreston]

I have almost 2000 miles on my LB and I am getting 33 1/3 with the A/C on in Arizona.

[dandj]

A little over 6,000 miles and a consistent 38mpg and up to over 40. I even got 37.5 @ 75-80 mph for 150 miles.

[daq421]

I got the worst mileage so far on the last tank.. 34.8 mpg
I'm guessing that as I relax and enjoy the new car my right foot has gotten a bit um... heavier. (comfortable cruising speed seems to want to be 80mph... gotta watch that..) This tank I'll keep a lighter foot. However if it continues to drop I'll take it in for a check up

[riceboy]

Last tank was only 500km's... very disappointed.. then again... with the addition of the CAI I've been zipping around like crazy..

[ketel0ne]

Last tank 412.2 miles on 9.73 gal. for 42.36mpg lots of coasting and doing the speed limit, 44psi in the tires.

[argylesocks]

just filled up for $2.25/gal in NH.

averaged 41.2mpg (again)
lifetime average: 40.3mpg

[asa805]

Can you all please give more info on your mileage (instaed of just posting the actual numbers), like where you are driving, if its long trips or not, highway or city? etc...

I got 28 mpg on my last fillup. Im in NY - ethanol blend state, most of my trips are between 5 and 15 minutes long and i drive about 15% highway (though not for long periods). The 28 is an improvement from the 25-26 ive been getting on earlier tanks. I think my tank is getting broken in (about 1700 miles thus far).

[Lafiro]

Im only seeing around 29-32mpg average. Thats a lot of street(city) driving.
Any highway driving, seriously, I do 70-90 average. No I do NOT obey any speed limit, ever.

My last tank I got 27.8mpg!!!!!! OMG!!!!!

Differences in my car then yours? Almost always have a passenger, have a 100+pound box with 2 12"s sitting in the back. Amp, cap, school books, inverter... always blasting music..... and always rev'ing high. Oh and sitting on some 17's.

Maybe this is all why I dont see the 34-36mpg I use to get when I first got my car? Oh well, better then the 15-20mpg my last car use to get(without AC/any music and stuff)

[Ziv]

Just got back from Montreal. Like 90% Highway (120+) 10% Cities.

A record for me! 6.81415 L/100Km. Or 41.4737 MPG!

Now if only I can get that kinda result in the city.....

[argylesocks]

Im only seeing around 29-32mpg average. Thats a lot of street(city) driving.
Any highway driving, seriously, I do 70-90 average. No I do NOT obey any speed limit, ever.

My last tank I got 27.8mpg!!!!!! OMG!!!!!

Differences in my car then yours? Almost always have a passenger, have a 100+pound box with 2 12"s sitting in the back. Amp, cap, school books, inverter... always blasting music..... and always rev'ing high. Oh and sitting on some 17's.

Maybe this is all why I dont see the 34-36mpg I use to get when I first got my car? Oh well, better then the 15-20mpg my last car use to get(without AC/any music and stuff)


easy solution. stop driving fast. dont rev high. it aint a race car.
no reason why you cant be getting high 30's easily.

im getting about 41mpg.
tires: 42psi
highway speeds: 55-60mph
city: always coasting in N when i can... plan ahead for stoplights so i dont have to stop. easy starts. no high revs... keep in higher gear.

[daq421]

easy solution. stop driving fast. dont rev high. it aint a race car.
no reason why you cant be getting high 30's easily.

im getting about 41mpg.
tires: 42psi
highway speeds: 55-60mph
city: always coasting in N when i can... plan ahead for stoplights so i dont have to stop. easy starts. no high revs... keep in higher gear.

55 - 60 mph on the Freeway?
Here in california that would get you killed...
Partly because the posted limit is 65 and partly because the average flow speed is 70 - 75mph. Traveling at 55 or 60 on the highway around here, in this little car, would make you into a speed bump for some SUV.

-Peter

[argylesocks]

I have driven a total of 1650 miles on my HB. Overall is 38.9 MPG. When the tank is 100% highway it is 41 MPG. All with the air conditioning on.


for some reason, as im scrolling down the page, i always stop to read your posts..... hmm... must be some subconcious thing or something....

[vodkalush]

Average drive speeds/mpg are:
city - 40/45mph -------- about 36mpg
highway - 65-75mph ----------- about 38-40mpg
thruway (toll roads) 75-85mph ----- 35-37mpg

[nsmitchell]

for some reason, as im scrolling down the page, i always stop to read your posts..... hmm... must be some subconcious thing or something.... TDS12 - I thought I was the only one... Gives new meaning to the word "Post"...

[Frink]

I was averaging between 6.1 to 6.6 l/100km per tank.
I just got 5.6 l/100km from my last tank by coasting, not rushing up to red lights and just basically going easy on the car.
70% rural 30% city, lots of hills, 50km commute.
Next I'm going to inflate the tires to around 40psi and I'm considering switching to synthetic oil.

[sam07yaris]

My last highway trip I drove 710kms on 38-39 litres.

My last city fill was 31L on 478kms.

I will say that I live in Saskatchewan, and there are virtually NO hills at all, though the highways are crappy enough that there is a lot of slowing and accelerating on the highway.


I totally agree with you on your MPG I was getting around 52.9 on average highway and 44 city. But that was a month or so. I commute to school which has lots of upward hills and hence is the reason in reduction of mpg by -6 mpg

[swng]

I totally agree with you on your MPG I was getting around 52.9 on average highway and 44 city. But that was a month or so. I commute to school which has lots of upward hills and hence is the reason in reduction of mpg by -6 mpg
Wow! Your numbers are great! I achieve about 40.5 mpg (imp) on average with about 65% highway and 35% city driving (half of which is hilly) in summer. A/C on about half of the time. Can't match even your city driving fuel economy.

[Jem_hadar]

Wow! Your numbers are great! I achieve about 40.5 mpg (imp) on average with about 65% highway and 35% city driving (half of which is hilly) in summer. A/C on about half of the time. Can't match even your city driving fuel economy.


Im the same, getting on average 38,39,40 I guess thereabouts combined.

[roadrunner]

I suggest you take a visit to GasSavers.org if you want to improve your Yaris mpg. I like the useful information on their webpage.
Roadrunner

[nsmitchell]

31.5 MPG - city and hwy.

[sam07yaris]

Wow! Your numbers are great! I achieve about 40.5 mpg (imp) on average with about 65% highway and 35% city driving (half of which is hilly) in summer. A/C on about half of the time. Can't match even your city driving fuel economy.


Just filled up my car just a while ago down the street.

425 miles @9.6 gallons = 44.27 mpg :headbang: :thumbup: :laughabove: <----- would have been higher if I wasn't speeding late for school one day and the other trying to get on time for interview.

thats my 2nd best in mileage. 3rd is 423 miles. The highest is 434 miles


price $2.33/gal

[argylesocks]

Just filled up my car just a while ago down the street.

425 miles @9.6 gallons = 44.27 mpg

wow. thats insanely cool.
nice work.

[sam07yaris]

wow. thats insanely cool.
nice work.




Well an update on that fill-up. Right now 1 bar is gone from a full tank and I have about 126 miles since I reseted the trip meter @fill up. =)

[swng]

Well an update on that fill-up. Right now 1 bar is gone from a full tank and I have about 126 miles since I reseted the trip meter @fill up. =)
That is more than 200 km!
My best record is one bar gone at about 187 km and I am very proud of that. I achieved that by filling the tank to the top. It actually spilled.
I know we all drive under different conditions (see our previous posts). However, I should say you can be very proud anyhow. Please keep posting your results on a long term basis at your convenience, and share your observations on how you have been able to achieve such frugality.

[sam07yaris]

That is more than 200 km!
My best record is one bar gone at about 187 km and I am very proud of that. I achieved that by filling the tank to the top. It actually spilled.
I know we all drive under different conditions (see our previous posts). However, I should say you can be very proud anyhow. Please keep posting your results on a long term basis at your convenience, and share your observations on how you have been able to achieve such frugality.



I am at school right now and my current miles is 145.7 I will take pics after school *college full time nights*and probably then I'd have 2 bars missing*will promise to take pics I am so ecstatic. BUT THATS A LOT THOUGH!!! My maine trip over there summer was 175.2 miles and one bar so I hope to break my own record. SUPPORT ME GUYS!:thumbup:

[Frink]

Filled up the Yaris this morning, 607 km on 31.1 litres of fuel.
Works out to 5.1 l/100km or 46mpg US for the tank

[pxpaulx]

i've done 3 fillups now, i find first bar drops off between 75-80, second 125-130, third 170-180; so after the first bar its about 45-50 miles per bar drop off, i'm impressed so far! on gassavers.org i'm averaging just under 36mpg

[sam07yaris]

Okay guys, heres the corresponding pics since Wed's fill up.
1st pic JUST went down to 2 bars as soon as I came home from school -- look at previous post ----
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/hellax5/MVC-158S.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/hellax5/MVC-159S.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/hellax5/MVC-164S.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/hellax5/MVC-166S.jpg

and today just about 3 minutes ago...
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/hellax5/MVC-167S.jpg

between 209 and 251 I would have extended the mpg more if some asshole didn't pass me illegaly over the emergency break down land. I got pissed and drove up behind him to cut him off the way he did it to me. Though I did it at a faster speed *110mph* (I only drove this way for a short period to teach him a lesson not to drive idiotic---I am a step 9 here in Mass) . Anywho, I was assuming it was a kid in a chevy aveo thinking his car is fast. I was also surprised at the pick up speed my Yaris has. :thumbup:

[NickNickNick]

Your engine light's on.

[swng]

Just saw sam07Yaris' post on the last page. The useful information is highly appreciated but it looks like my car (the Canadian version) has a different fuel gauge. My gauge only has four bars above the arrow pointer on the side and four below. Eight bars in total. It makes direct comparison difficult. We may have to go back to mpg (imp or US) or the like for a useful comparion because the how many miles/km per bar type of casual comparison may have been rendered irrelevant by the difference in the number of bars:smile:.
It is a pleasure to know that somebody has achieved a good fuel economy record for a trip/tank but it is also useful if we can see fellow members' long term average numbers. Carry on sam07Yaris!
BTW, bad drivers exist. Just remain cool all the time. Safe and happy motoring!

[jeff_o]

argylesocks... from what i understood in your post when you said coasting in N is that you shift to N when coasting at high speed then shift it back to D when you start to slow down to speed up... is that right? will not this be harmful on your tranny?

i have been driving stick shifts for centuries until i shifted to auto tranny, my friend noticed me shifting to N (to conserve gas and help braking) when stopping before the car completely stops, he said this is harmful because of some pressure on the auto tranny. i don't know if this is true for your case of coasting in N then shifting back.

[ECHOKnight2000]

argylesocks... from what i understood in your post when you said coasting in N is that you shift to N when coasting at high speed then shift it back to D when you start to slow down to speed up... is that right? will not this be harmful on your tranny?

i have been driving stick shifts for centuries until i shifted to auto tranny, my friend noticed me shifting to N (to conserve gas and help braking) when stopping before the car completely stops, he said this is harmful because of some pressure on the auto tranny. i don't know if this is true for your case of coasting in N then shifting back.


I sometimes put the car in neutral (I have an auto as well). Anyway rarely or even at all I put my car in neutral at highway speeds but if there is little traffic I will put it in neutral and coast to a stop. It will harm your tranny if you're going highway speeds and you coast in neutral and if you accelerate then put it in drive its hard on the tranny but then again doing that in general hurts or wears the parts down faster. Hope that makes sense. When you reach lower speeds and slowing down you can down shift and use engine breaking instead of neutral, then put it in neutral while sitting there. I guess remember if coasting in neutral can be dangerous in case you have to make an evasive manevure so don't do it in heavy traffic (rush hour) but I guess that's a give-in cause I'm sure if traffic was that heavy you can't really coast. I probably confused you even more but that's what I'm here for:tongue: :biggrin:

[jeff_o]

uhhmmm i've heard about some techniques in down and upshifting on automatic trannies... but how do you do that? do you flick the gas pedal or something? sorry this will be my last OT post :D

[sam07yaris]

Your engine light's on.


nope I just put it on IGN III

[sam07yaris]

uhhmmm i've heard about some techniques in down and upshifting on automatic trannies... but how do you do that? do you flick the gas pedal or something? sorry this will be my last OT post :D


It's heel toe downshifting. For ex: When coming off the highway for your exit, you put your car on the outside curve going in *to the apex* and put the clutch in, BLIP the throttle. < On the yaris you have to kinda hold it there for a millisecond since it takes time for the throttle body response to open up* then shift down to the next gear and release the clutch. Doing this puts less strain on the gears when you slow down or come to a stop. If you are doing it correctly< and I mean CORRECTLY, your car will come to a SMOOTH transition without budging to a stop or when exiting off an off ramp. Any budge and transfer of motion to the front and your tranny's hurtin.

[jeff_o]

hmmm haven't done it but i think i can imagine how you do it from the way you explained it :) i probly need a lil more practice.. thanks guys for sharing anyways :)

[ECHOKnight2000]

uhhmmm i've heard about some techniques in down and upshifting on automatic trannies... but how do you do that? do you flick the gas pedal or something? sorry this will be my last OT post :D


For automactic you just move the shifter selector down to 2nd, or L gear, some cars are set up 3rd, 2nd, and L, but either way its obviously a lower gear. DON'T have your foot on the gas while shifting to a lower gear or even up. Position D is obviously the most ideal selection for driving, I've heard some people trying to drive their cars like a stick with an auto...starting in L gear then going up to Drive, but don't, it puts more wear and tear on your tranny and its just not made for that cause well, its an Automactic! Anyway as I said earlier, don't be shifting at high speeds, its not good for the tranny cause its taking a beating to the high reving engine-at least for auto. Hope tha helps:iono: :rolleyes: :thumbsup:

[sam07yaris]

For automactic you just move the shifter selector down to 2nd, or L gear, some cars are set up 3rd, 2nd, and L, but either way its obviously a lower gear. DON'T have your foot on the gas while shifting to a lower gear or even up. Position D is obviously the most ideal selection for driving, I've heard some people trying to drive their cars like a stick with an auto...starting in L gear then going up to Drive, but don't, it puts more wear and tear on your tranny and its just not made for that cause well, its an Automactic! Anyway as I said earlier, don't be shifting at high speeds, its not good for the tranny cause its taking a beating to the high reving engine-at least for auto. Hope tha helps:iono: :rolleyes: :thumbsup:


sorry i read the member's post too quickly. Thought me was asking for a manual

[ChinoCharles]

For automactic you just move the shifter selector down to 2nd, or L gear, some cars are set up 3rd, 2nd, and L, but either way its obviously a lower gear. DON'T have your foot on the gas while shifting to a lower gear or even up. Position D is obviously the most ideal selection for driving, I've heard some people trying to drive their cars like a stick with an auto...starting in L gear then going up to Drive, but don't, it puts more wear and tear on your tranny and its just not made for that cause well, its an Automactic! Anyway as I said earlier, don't be shifting at high speeds, its not good for the tranny cause its taking a beating to the high reving engine-at least for auto. Hope tha helps:iono: :rolleyes: :thumbsup:

Yeah, I've seen an automatic tranny in a Grand Prix basically self destruct from someone having their foot on the gas and dropping the gear at the same time. Big no-no.

[argylesocks]

drove up to burlington, vt this weekend for a race. had my bike/wheels on the hatch rack.

414.1miles / 9.36gal = 44.2mpg!!!

[argylesocks]

argylesocks... from what i understood in your post when you said coasting in N is that you shift to N when coasting at high speed then shift it back to D when you start to slow down to speed up... is that right? will not this be harmful on your tranny?

i have been driving stick shifts for centuries until i shifted to auto tranny, my friend noticed me shifting to N (to conserve gas and help braking) when stopping before the car completely stops, he said this is harmful because of some pressure on the auto tranny. i don't know if this is true for your case of coasting in N then shifting back.

i have a manual, so this is a totally different case. Yes, i drop it into N when the topography allows me to coast for a while...

i have hurd the same things regarding coasting in an Auto. Best to listen to someone that drives one... maybe they can chime in..

[sam07yaris]

Okay I just filled up the gas.




446.8 miles @ $2.25 /gallon

total gallons 9.68

46.15 mpg
Guys I just broke my record from 434 to 446.8 and could have gone further to my actual goal which was 460 miles, DAMNIT I was that close!

:thumbup:

[nsmitchell]

Just saw sam07Yaris' post on the last page. The useful information is highly appreciated but it looks like my car (the Canadian version) has a different fuel gauge. My gauge only has four bars above the arrow pointer on the side and four below. Eight bars in total. It makes direct comparison difficult. We may have to go back to mpg (imp or US) or the like for a useful comparion because the how many miles/km per bar type of casual comparison may have been rendered irrelevant by the difference in the number of bars:smile:.
It is a pleasure to know that somebody has achieved a good fuel economy record for a trip/tank but it is also useful if we can see fellow members' long term average numbers. Carry on sam07Yaris!
BTW, bad drivers exist. Just remain cool all the time. Safe and happy motoring!

Taken from Yaris owners manual.

[tiksman]

first tank 38.6
second tank 37.8
third tank 39.7

It gettin better

[autophile]

What am I doing wrong? Note that I haven't been using A/C.

First tank: 34.4 mpg
Second tank: 36.0 mpg
Third tank: 35.2 mpg

I have a manual shift '07 hatchback. 90% of my driving is at highway speeds, half at around 60 mph, and half at around 75 mph. My shift protocol is to go into 2nd at 10 mph, 3rd at 20 mph, 4th at 30 mph, and 5th at 40 mph.

Help? :)

--Rob

[argylesocks]

What am I doing wrong? Note that I haven't been using A/C.

First tank: 34.4 mpg
Second tank: 36.0 mpg
Third tank: 35.2 mpg

I have a manual shift '07 hatchback. 90% of my driving is at highway speeds, half at around 60 mph, and half at around 75 mph. My shift protocol is to go into 2nd at 10 mph, 3rd at 20 mph, 4th at 30 mph, and 5th at 40 mph.

Help? :)

--Rob

try keeping it at 60mph & see where that gets you.
additionally, i coast whenever possible, and try to "look ahead" for my stoplights, so that i rarely end up stopping... i just coast slowly untill its green...

[sam07yaris]

try keeping it at 60mph & see where that gets you.
additionally, i coast whenever possible, and try to "look ahead" for my stoplights, so that i rarely end up stopping... i just coast slowly untill its green...



OUCH, since it's a liftback, you guys really need that Tachometer.

[foober]

What am I doing wrong? Note that I haven't been using A/C.

First tank: 34.4 mpg
Second tank: 36.0 mpg
Third tank: 35.2 mpg

I have a manual shift '07 hatchback. 90% of my driving is at highway speeds, half at around 60 mph, and half at around 75 mph. My shift protocol is to go into 2nd at 10 mph, 3rd at 20 mph, 4th at 30 mph, and 5th at 40 mph.

Help? :)

--Rob

I'm still getting around 38 miles to the gallon with city and highway miles on my manual liftback. Do you punch in the gas pedal. Thats the only thing I can think that you might be doing wrong. I just gradually push on the gas pedal when I speed up. And you should let your car warm up before you take off. I always let my cars or trucks warm up in idle for at least 5 minutes before I take off.

[Pars]

What am I doing wrong? Note that I haven't been using A/C.

First tank: 34.4 mpg
Second tank: 36.0 mpg
Third tank: 35.2 mpg

I have a manual shift '07 hatchback. 90% of my driving is at highway speeds, half at around 60 mph, and half at around 75 mph. My shift protocol is to go into 2nd at 10 mph, 3rd at 20 mph, 4th at 30 mph, and 5th at 40 mph.

Help? :)

--Rob

With my first 3 tank of gas, I was also getting around 35mpg, while driving conservatively. I'm still getting the same mileage (at 20,000km), but my driving is significantly more aggressive. So, 35mpg with regular driving isn't that great. If your driving is on the conservative side, perhaps the engine still needs to get broken in a bit more or you're taking short trips in which the engine doesn't have a change to completely warm-up. Also, don't expect the mileage to get any better for the winter arrives.

[Goose]

I agree with Pars - your engine may still have some breaking-in to do. Based on my experience, mid-thirties before the first oil change isn't bad.

After close to 8,000 miles, I'm getting roughly 38-39 MPG (mixed highway/city driving).

[Jem_hadar]

OUCH, since it's a liftback, you guys really need that Tachometer.

Thank the gods we have those standard in our Canadian Yaris Hatchbacks! :cool:

And you should let your car warm up before you take off. I always let my cars or trucks warm up in idle for at least 5 minutes before I take off.

Question: I keep hearing nowadays w/ new cars, and even specifically our Yaris, you dont need to be letting your cars warm up for long periods of time.

Even 30 seconds to a minute is enough and fine? Do others dispute this?

And should I be waiting for the "COOL" engine symbol to disappear before I'm taking off and driving?

Thx for tha info :wink:

Jem

[argylesocks]

OUCH, since it's a liftback, you guys really need that Tachometer.

i dont need it at all.

from the 53 pages of discussion on the other thread, the only people that "need" it are the 16yr old kids that like to race other cars with only 108hp. :thumbdown:

[Jem_hadar]

i dont need it at all.

from the 53 pages of discussion on the other thread, the only people that "need" it are the 16yr old kids that like to race other cars with only 108hp. :thumbdown:


hahahahaha lol

[ChinoCharles]

i dont need it at all.

from the 53 pages of discussion on the other thread, the only people that "need" it are the 16yr old kids that like to race other cars with only 108hp. :thumbdown:

Hey, I'm 21 thank you very much! :bellyroll:

[ECHOKnight2000]

Thank the gods we have those standard in our Canadian Yaris Hatchbacks! :cool:



Question: I keep hearing nowadays w/ new cars, and even specifically our Yaris, you dont need to be letting your cars warm up for long periods of time.

Even 30 seconds to a minute is enough and fine? Do others dispute this?

And should I be waiting for the "COOL" engine symbol to disappear before I'm taking off and driving?

Thx for tha info :wink:

Jem



Warming up your car especially in colder temps extends the over all life of the car...as Foober said 5mins, I personally think that's too long, you don't really need to do that, remember ideling is 0 mpg, but if its colder out it doesn't hurt to warm it up at least 30sec to a minute, but what I do if its not too cold out I start driving BUT I ease into it until the COOL light turns off, driving the car warms it up faster than it sitting there...the only times I might "race" the engine is because of traffic but I try to advoid that. Cause racing a cold engine is never good! Hope that helps or give some idea. Obviously we all have different methods and experiences in what we feel is good.:thumbsup:

[why?]

Warming up the engine simply is not necessary unless the temperature is below freezing. And even then a minute is more than enough to get the fluids going. Just keep the revs low until the car is warmed up and it is no big deal.

[nsmitchell]

If you live in cold climates you really need oil that can protect your engine during startups. Synthetic oils are the only lubricants that pump freely in really cold climates to prevent engine wear during the first seconds of starting. Dino (conventional oil) is like pancake syrup in really cold climates, which causes slow pumping at startup and lots of wear on your engine.

[nsmitchell]

33.1MPG on this fill-up. That was with normal driving 50city/50hwy, with a few high speed spurts (80+) and some jackrabbit starts from lights. Not tooo bad... Still under 2000 miles on the ODO.

[daq421]

38.1 mpg on this tank. :w00t:

Thats after a 250 mile (varried type of road) drive and two days of my normal commute.

The key is (for me at least) keeping the speedo below 80mph. The mileage really (really) starts to drop off if I cruise above the 80 mark.. (3K rpm).

-Peter

[ECHOKnight2000]

This past sunday I got the highest mileage I've ever had...45mpg! All highway, except begining and end. And I have an automactic! I stayed around 65mph and kept my speed consistant as possible...of course my foot was starting to fall asleep:biggrin: :rolleyes:

Ironically my 1987 Van had cruise control, I know this is an econo car but at least have it as an option, I'm tempted to get an aftermarket cruise control but I don't do long drives enough to justify it...oh well I'll figure some other way to waste my money!:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

And on a side note I saw a red Yaris hatch on the highway! Man did it look amazing! I was super excited! Sad I know!
So that made my day.

[sam07yaris]

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Previous Post
Okay I just filled up the gas.




446.8 miles @ $2.25 /gallon

total gallons 9.68

46.15 mpg
Guys I just broke my record from 434 to 446.8 and could have gone further to my actual goal which was 460 miles, DAMNIT I was that close!
Here is the pic from the fill up 2 days ago
:thumbup:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/hellax5/MVC-169S.jpg

[swng]

Thanks for sharing the information. Please keep posting your numbers, and pictures, when appropiate.

[sam07yaris]

how did my post come up twice?

[ItsMyDaily]

what were you guys averages during the first couple tanks after purchase?

I have an 07 liftback and I seem to get around 300-10 on a full tank. I fill up right away after the last bar begans to blink though, should I be driving more?

I thought mpg should be better as advertised???? Should I just wait for it to be broken in longer or go to the dealer to see if anything may be wrong?

By the way I baby the car, and it sees mainly highway miles. also I always keep it under 70.

[swng]

how did my post come up twice?
Don't know:smile:. If you like, you can delete one. Just sign in and click "edit", then click "Delete" and confirm your decision by clicking to choose "Delete Message".
Edit: Just tried it out myself. The procedure to delete is now as simple as edited above. Seems the problem has been solved already anyway:smile:.

[Racer X-8]

I am at 36.0 MPG average @ 10,100 miles. (I keep an excel file going each for all 3 of my cars.)

The car has been my mule to work and back - most of the miles came from that, where the drive is mainly highway @ 70-80 mph. I hardly ever really go past 50% throttle - I don't feel much of a need to show any muscle whatsoever while driving it really. My other car (grown-up toy) is an RX-8 afterall. Though I have found myself in situations where I've had to stand my ground with the bully-types out there. :laugh:

I think I see a 1-2 MPG drop for those tankfulls primarily affected by the use of the AC. Now that it's cooling down out there and I don't hardly need the AC, I'm getting 37.1 mpg in the last month.

edit: I posted my excel graph of my MPG 10-2-06 @ 7:43pm. That's on the next page. Check it out...

[nsmitchell]

what were you guys averages during the first couple tanks after purchase?

I have an 07 liftback and I seem to get around 300-10 on a full tank. I fill up right away after the last bar begans to blink though, should I be driving more?

I thought mpg should be better as advertised???? Should I just wait for it to be broken in longer or go to the dealer to see if anything may be wrong?

By the way I baby the car, and it sees mainly highway miles. also I always keep it under 70.
Break-in time is definately a factor in MPG. I have 2200 on the ODO and my MPGs seem to be going up by about 1MPG per fillup lately. 31,32,33...
Also try switching to synthetic oil at your first oil change. Folks have been reporting increased MPGs just by doing that. Mobil-1 or Amsoil is your best bet with a good filter.:smile:

[ItsMyDaily]

Break-in time is definately a factor in MPG. I have 2200 on the ODO and my MPGs seem to be going up by about 1MPG per fillup lately. 31,32,33...
Also try switching to synthetic oil at your first oil change. Folks have been reporting increased MPGs just by doing that. Mobil-1 or Amsoil is your best bet with a good filter.:smile:

thankx for the reply. I figure the little guy just needs the engine to be broken in for a little longer. I'll do the switch to synthetic aswell and see what kind of role that plays. Maybe an intake to help the engine breath better, should help with mpg aswell.

[07WYarisRS]

Actually
Amsoil, Redline or Royal purple is you best bet for synthetics

Mobil 1, unfortunately like castrol syntec is a group III mineral oil based synthetic with a speacial blend of synthetic base stocks.

But mobil 1 is still a MUCH, MUCH better oil then the dealer uses or most group I, II or III oils.
Here in Ontario it's just bulk Shell oil

[ItsMyDaily]

Actually
Amsoil, Redline or Royal purple is you best bet for synthetics

Mobil 1, unfortunately like castrol syntec is a group III mineral oil based synthetic with a speacial blend of synthetic base stocks.

But mobil 1 is still a MUCH, MUCH better oil then the dealer uses or most group I, II or III oils.
Here in Ontario it's just bulk Shell oil

Wow is the dealer oil really that bad. The car is a daily driver, and usually I do all my own oil changes on all my cars, but now I can get free oil changes at toyota when ever I want. I used to work for a toyota dealership, and my mechanic friends there give me free services.

But if factory oil isn't good enough for a daily driven car that is babied then I'll switch to synthetic.

[Racer X-8]

Actually
Amsoil, Redline or Royal purple is you best bet for synthetics

Mobil 1, unfortunately like castrol syntec is a group III mineral oil based synthetic with a speacial blend of synthetic base stocks.

But mobil 1 is still a MUCH, MUCH better oil then the dealer uses or most group I, II or III oils.
Here in Ontario it's just bulk Shell oilAgreed.

I'm also in the Mazda RX-8 forum ( www.rx8club.com (http://www.rx8club.com) ) , and there are some over there that are absolute nuts about debating oils, headed-up by a dude going by the name of RotaryGod. He swears by Royal Purple and nobody can dispute the merits of that oil. I loose interest kinda quickly in that topic (and I'm a mechanical engineer). I'm actually not a synthetic oil user, I use Castrol GTX. I might go Royal Purple with this Yaris though.

Long (very long!) story short - regular oils work fine in normal use, but if you want even better performance, go synthetic, and if you want to go synthetic, then buy Royal Purple. That's the way I see it.

[nsmitchell]

^ Performance equating to bettter MPG.:wink:

I might try Royal Purple to see how it goes. Either that or Grape Kool-Ade! :)

One benefit of using Royal Purple is that if you buy the oil and let someone else (dealer) change your oil for you, you will know they didn't switch oils on you by putting conventional oil in your car and keeping the synthetic for themselves. Check your dipstick for the purple oil.

[Racer X-8]

Yeah, but check quickly, I understand the purple color goes away in a fairly short amount of time, then it looks like regular dino.

[nsmitchell]

Just did some research on Royal Purple vs Amsoil. It looks like Amsoil is still superior. This discussion needs to go over to the Synthetic thread.
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1690

[redglare45]

This is the best tank I've gotten so far:
435 miles / 700.48km
10.57 gallons (US) / 40.03 liters
That's about: 41.15 MPG or 17.49 Km/L :thumbup:

On this tank, I babied it big time and the results were evident.
Also about 85% highway and 15% city.
No A/C used.

[tomjasz]

Yeah, but check quickly, I understand the purple color goes away in a fairly short amount of time, then it looks like regular dino.

What's being said about Royal Purple and past quality issues?

[Racer X-8]

Sorry, not sure of your querry. What you quoted is just about the color of the oil and that has no effect on its performance / quality.

but yeah, it's real good stuff.

And also, yeah, this oil stuff needs to go to that linky that nsmitchell has given above a little...

[Racer X-8]

The telltale tale of one Yaris... bought on 4-18-06 and now at 10,485 miles. I just filled her up tonight...

[Jem_hadar]

US gallons I assume? Or imperial!

I really drives me nuts about how both systems use "gallons" but they're different measures!

Ugh.. just annoying trying ot figure out which one often ppl are referring too!

[Racer X-8]

I'm in SC - that's South Carolina. I realize my "location" maybe obscures that little tidbit of information to where ppl aren't sure what the SC means - so sorry. US gallons. Now, go get some sleep. :p

[blommer]

woohooo yaris rulez

[nsmitchell]

31MPG - Drivin' it hard on this tank, but no AC. Sprint starts and high speed driving. I need to mellow out some... :redface:

[Racer X-8]

I once tried taking a trip with 4 ppl and a luggage carrier on the roof. The poor thing was really struggling, I had to floor it a lot. The darn luggage carrier really did need a roof rack, so I deemed it unsafe and returned home after about 30 miles of trying. My point being, loaded-down like that, it really is underpowered so badly, the mpg would have probably been like 20-25.

[nsmitchell]

I once tried taking a trip with 4 ppl and a luggage carrier on the roof. The poor thing was really struggling, I had to floor it a lot. The darn luggage carrier really did need a roof rack, so I deemed it unsafe and returned home after about 30 miles of trying. My point being, loaded-down like that, it really is underpowered so badly, the mpg would have probably been like 20-25.

I was considering taking the Yaris on a camping trip with the wife and 2 kids this weekend. I just don't think we could stuff 4 sleeping bags and our tent in the hatch. I will try though. And a cooler. Maybe one of those folding coolers and I will just buy food after we set up camp. Thinking about Loft Mountain Campground in the Shenandoah National Park, Virginia. I may end up taking the Odyssey though.:frown: It gets about 20-25MPG on the HWY...

[Racer X-8]

Darned luggage carriers are almost always designed to be strapped-down to a roof rack. I bungee-corded mine thru the windows, hooked inside to each other. I thought it would work, but the air pushed it back almost to the antena and the front of it made a "wall" that the air blew against. Argh, and the buffeting was getting pretty bad above 60 mph. I was extremely relieved to get it home unscathed, we threw the bags in the trunk of our 32 mpg Infiniti G20T and re-started the trip 1 hour later than expected, all the way to Kissimmee, FL. We would have been in big trouble if we didn't bail.

[foober]

Got my scangaugeII today and went out and did some research.

I can tell you from just what I've seen so far most of your gas usage is in the lower gears and when your speeding up. While coasting on the highway the yaris gets around 60 miles to the gallon. It appeared to get even around 70 but that was going at around 55. I noticed that the slower you go in a higher gear the better gas milage you get. I guess thats a given. But even taking it very easy on the gas pedal in 1st and 2nd gear you only get around 15 to 25 miles to the gallon.

[ItsMyDaily]

Got my scangaugeII today and went out and did some research.

I can tell you from just what I've seen so far most of your gas usage is in the lower gears and when your speeding up. While coasting on the highway the yaris gets around 60 miles to the gallon. It appeared to get even around 70 but that was going at around 55. I noticed that the slower you go in a higher gear the better gas milage you get. I guess thats a given. But even taking it very easy on the gas pedal in 1st and 2nd gear you only get around 15 to 25 miles to the gallon.

what kind of equipment was used?

[foober]

what kind of equipment was used?

just the scanguageII gizmo. Here's the website. www.scanguage.com

Its a pretty amazing little thing. Does alot.

[ItsMyDaily]

just the scanguageII gizmo. Here's the website. www.scanguage.com

Its a pretty amazing little thing. Does alot.

wow thankx for the link. Pretty kool little thing. The prius's come with something similar sock. I'm ganna go ahead and order one.....it'll work as an rpm gauge also so :thumbsup:

[Frink]

Filled the Yaris up this morning and was pleased to break into the 4's...
654.4km and 32 litres = 4.9l/100km which is about 48mpg for the tank.
Best tank yet.

[sam07yaris]

good . try to get a few extra mpgs in there and beat my 51.2 mpg 147miles @2.7 gallons

[swng]

Update:
Latest tank gave me 45.38 mpg (Imp), or 37.79 mpg (US), or 6.22 liters per 100 km. I started with a full tank and drove 628.4 km and refilled the tank till the nozzle clicked with 39.114 litres. The ratio between city and highway driving was around 30/70 and the AC was on about 20% of the time. The load was driver plus one with some personal belongings most of the time. My city is quite hilly.
NB: The result could have been inflated a little because unlike in the past, starting from the latest tank, I heeded advices about not to "fill till it spill" whilst for the tank before that one, I did just that.
Here are some more details:

Fuel Cost
$37.71

Distance travelled
628.4 km
390.49 miles

Fuel Amount
39.11 litres
10.33 US gallons
8.6 Imperial gallons
Cost of Fuel
$0.96 per litre
$3.65 per US gallon
$4.38 per Imperial gallon

Fuel Economy
6.22
litres per 100 km
37.79
miles per US gallon
45.38
miles per Imperial gallon

Mileage Costs
6.001
¢ents per km
9.66
¢ents per mil

[argylesocks]

good . try to get a few extra mpgs in there and beat my 51.2 mpg 147miles @2.7 gallons

are you using a scangauge to measure this?

i dont mean to doubt you... but damn, thats some gooood mpg's!
my best was 44.2 for a FULL tank... 95% highway at 58mph, coasting in neutral whenever i could.

[ItsMyDaily]

do you guys think it would help an auto yaris to be in neutral at red lights or when stoped rather then being on the brake.
I'm to used to manuel cars :D

[Racer X-8]

do you guys think it would help an auto yaris to be in neutral at red lights or when stoped rather then being on the brake.
I'm to used to manuel cars :DYour mpg would be negligible -to- zero change. You're in LA. Do you sit in snarled traffic jams that much? I'm hardly ever sitting still, so even if it mattered, the % of "driving" time sitting still is negligible to zero by itself. I would be more concerned about the effects of the abnormally high amount of shifting in and out of "drive". What mechanism(s) might wear-out doing that? I dunno, maybe that's no biggie.

[ItsMyDaily]

Your mpg would be negligible -to- zero change. You're in LA. Do you sit in snarled traffic jams that much? I'm hardly ever sitting still, so even if it mattered, the % of "driving" time sitting still is negligible to zero by itself. I would be more concerned about the effects of the abnormally high amount of shifting in and out of "drive". What mechanism(s) might wear-out doing that? I dunno, maybe that's no biggie.

I believe the La traffic is what is getting me in the mpg category. Needless to say I tend to back many back streets to avoid it. I do get caught sometimes though, but not much you can do there. I did not think of anything being worn do to the shifting involved going to nuetral, and back to drive again..hmmm...I'm curious to know if anything would be effected in the long run as well.

From what I've been reading though. People are averaging their mpg's driving between 55-60mph. While I tend to keep mine between 60-70mph. It's kinda hard not to go faster when you drive in LA highways, where everyone is basically speeding. even the people that aren't trying to speed are going over the limit.:biggrin:

[ketel0ne]

I believe the La traffic is what is getting me in the mpg category. Needless to say I tend to back many back streets to avoid it. I do get caught sometimes though, but not much you can do there. I did not think of anything being worn do to the shifting involved going to nuetral, and back to drive again..hmmm...I'm curious to know if anything would be effected in the long run as well.

From what I've been reading though. People are averaging their mpg's driving between 55-60mph. While I tend to keep mine between 60-70mph. It's kinda hard not to go faster when you drive in LA highways, where everyone is basically speeding. even the people that aren't trying to speed are going over the limit.:biggrin:

Come check out all the Yarii at http://www.gassavers.org you can see every logged tank of gas for most of the drivers there.

[sam07yaris]

are you using a scangauge to measure this?

i dont mean to doubt you... but damn, thats some gooood mpg's!
my best was 44.2 for a FULL tank... 95% highway at 58mph, coasting in neutral whenever i could.


If I reseted the miles to 0.0 at fill up before the travel and a full gas tank then at the end of the trip it only used 2.7 gallons then the basic calculations to get the avg mpg is true then. I dont drive hard so thats why

[ItsMyDaily]

Come check out all the Yarii at http://www.gassavers.org you can see every logged tank of gas for most of the drivers there.

wow sweet website, thankx for the link. Man there are guys getting great mpg's!!

Well today I tried to keep the yaris below 60 on my daily commute and I got it to go 65miles before the first bar went away. Before on my normal driving it would go away after 50-52miles everytime. I guess it really just depends on the rpm this car is driven at. Maybe it's time to get a rpm tach.

[Racer X-8]

Nah. One of the most major things your car has to overcome at 60mph is wind resistance. Wind resistance is simply what your hand feels when you stick it out of the window. Wind resistance increases EXPONENTIALLY with SPEED. Another resistance that increases with speed is rolling resistance, but that aint no biggie on hard road and properly inflated tires, but it does exist and does increase with SPEED. You have the correct gage - the SPEEDometer. Tach's are good to have though, but not for this reason.

[pxpaulx]

my first gas guage bar typically drops between 70 and 80; 1 or 2 tanks dropped earlier, 1 or 2 dropped later. i just drove from minneapolis to toronto and back again. i had about 1900 miles before the trip and 4200 after. averaged probably 60-65mph and 300 miles of all city driving while in toronto. bumped my lifetime average from 36.5 to 38.02mpg. i had 4 tanks over 40mpg on the trip, very happy about that! the last one was over 43! i didn't think it was legit, but the current tank is dropping at regular intervals, so i guess it was. i'm very impressed. got an oil change last night, switched over to mobil 1 so we'll see if there is any improvement from that too.

[nsmitchell]

31 MPG

[ketel0ne]

wow sweet website, thankx for the link. Man there are guys getting great mpg's!!

Well today I tried to keep the yaris below 60 on my daily commute and I got it to go 65miles before the first bar went away. Before on my normal driving it would go away after 50-52miles everytime. I guess it really just depends on the rpm this car is driven at. Maybe it's time to get a rpm tach.

A scangauge has a tach in it as well as instant MPG feedback.

[argylesocks]

bike races this weekend: i had to drive up to New Gloucester, Maine both saturday & sunday. a little more than 2 hours each way...

anyways. i just wanted to get there, race & come home, as quick as possible.
so instead of driving at 58mph & coasting... i kept it around 70mph (pizza & beer were waiting for me).

end result: 38mpg average.
not great.. but not as bad as i though it would be.

keep in mind that i also had my girlfriend, a ton of gear, and my bike & xtra wheels on the rack on the back...

[Jem_hadar]

Well, here are my stats thus far.

I'm def below the stated fuel efficiency ratings, but that dont surprise me, since I figured they're be in like 'perfect' circumstances.



Date Litres ODO Distance MPG (US) MPG (UK) L/100km

11-Aug 35.620 6,654 - - - -
25-Aug 45.190 7,209 555 29 35 8.1
05-Sep 34.560 7,683 474 32 39 7.3
17-Sep 41.249 8,258 575 33 39 7.2
30-Sep 43.384 8,827 569 31 37 7.6
08-Oct 37.896 9,310 483 30 36 7.8
15-Oct 32.596 9,749 439 32 38 7.4
17-Oct 37.060 10,314 565 36 43 6.6


Jem

EDIT: Shit, didnt past well, ill fix her up later!

[swng]

I think the numbers are not bad, Jem hadar, especially the last tank:smile:.

[nsmitchell]

33.1 MPG = Pumped my tires up to 42PSI. 3300 miles so far.

[foober]

I've been noticing that if I cruise at 65 to 70 miles an hour on the highway in 5th gear I'm getting 50 to 60+ miles to the gallon. Thats using my scangaugeII device to be able to check on gas usage. Its the picking up speed that uses the most gas. But while cruising you can get rediculously good gas milage.

Here's the scangaugeII website where you can order one if you want. http://www.scangauge.com/

I really recommend it. It tells you so much how your car is working. Great product.

[swng]

Foober said above: "Its the picking up speed that uses the most gas. But while cruising you can get rediculously good gas milage."
Very very true:thumbsup:. When cruising forward at a constant speed, the car only consumes gas to overcome friction, including wind resistance. However, when the car tries to pick up speed or change direction, it has to consume more gas to overcome inertia in addition to friction.

[pdarnell]

Purchased mine in September, it's a red LB auto. I have kept track of my milage since I bought it and the results are below. I just ordered a scanguage II and a cruise control. I hope to break 40 MPG soon.

http://www.pmdesign.biz/images/mpg.gif

[Jem_hadar]

I think the numbers are not bad, Jem hadar, especially the last tank:smile:.

Thanks, not as good as many here, but im not hating them.

the last tank was so good, bc I had to drive like 600 kms to North Bay and back, with like NO city driving and had no weight at all in my car but for me.

(though I was still surprised at the 43 mpg, bc i was driving 130, 140 the whole way there at back... so i wasnt exactly driving at an fuel economical speed)


I usually drive to TO a lot, so that = 400 ish kms of high driving, but when when i make these trips it always for the weekend, im weighted down w/ a cooler full of ice and a two-four of beer, my bags for of clothes and shit. So that's heavy and extra weight,
.
plus once im IN Toronto, i always end up driving places Downtown, so there's a good mileage killer

I figure thats why Ive only been in the high 30s basically

Jem

[swng]

Thanks for the detailed information Jem hadar. To me, breaking the 7 liters/100 km barrier is really something, especially in the situation that you mentioned above. I feel happy for you! Please keep on posting your numbers here from time to time.
Best wishes for safe and happy motoring!

[nsmitchell]

Just changed to Mobil-1 5W-30 at 3300 miles. Let's see how it effects my
MPG.

[Jem_hadar]

Thanks for the detailed information Jem hadar. To me, breaking the 7 liters/100 km barrier is really something, especially in the situation that you mentioned above. I feel happy for you! Please keep on posting your numbers here from time to time.
Best wishes for safe and happy motoring!

Shall do, thanks for the words. :cool:

[eTiMaGo]

haven't gone thorugh my first full tank of gas yet, but I'm down to 2 bars left on the meter and about 290km on this tank, should be able to reach 350... Most of my driving is pretty short trips and not much highway, so it's not that great...

[07WYarisRS]

haven't gone thorugh my first full tank of gas yet, but I'm down to 2 bars left on the meter and about 290km on this tank, should be able to reach 350... Most of my driving is pretty short trips and not much highway, so it's not that great...

yeah lots of short trips kills the mileage on any machine even more so the colder it is.

[nsmitchell]

Purchased mine in September, it's a red LB auto. I have kept track of my milage since I bought it and the results are below. I just ordered a scanguage II and a cruise control. I hope to break 40 MPG soon.

http://www.pmdesign.biz/images/mpg.gif

Did you buy a used Yaris with 1100 miles on it? How much did you pay?
I have the exact same Yaris and I ain't getting nowhere near 37MPG routinely.
I wonder if some engines were built a little more loose, or if you are just lighter on the pedal than me. Do you have many hills where you live?

Just cuious.:smile:

[Racer X-8]

I get 36.0 mpg average. If I drove 110 to 120 miles per day average like pdarnell, I would expect that extra mpg. My driving style is that I don't try to accelerate very hard, I don't care much if the car next to me gets ahead of me (much). I tend to hold my own though on the highway. I get real antsy if I'm being continuously passed. That means I'm doing around 75 to 80 mph on highways usually. Not much around here in the way of hills, definitely nothing around here that you would consider to be a mountain, nothing even close. (Central South Carolina - midlands)

[swng]

My last tank:smile::

Fuel Cost
$36.46

Distance travelled
591.7 km
367.68 miles

Fuel Amount
39.89 litres
10.54 US gallons
8.78 Imperial gallons
Cost of Fuel
$0.91 per litre
$3.46 per US gallon
$4.15 per Imperial gallon

Fuel Economy
6.74
litres per 100 km
34.88
miles per US gallon
41.9
miles per Imperial gallon

Mileage Costs
6.1619
¢ents per km
9.92
¢ents per mile

[Pars]

I just started driving my liftback again after having it parked up for 3 weeks. I'm seeing a 5% drop in fuel economy. Granted, the weather had become close to freezing since I last drove the car, but the really really cold weather is still awhile aways. I'm hopping the 5% drop isn't going to get worst as the weather gets colder, or I'm gonna be pissed. I got 33mpg in the last tank, when it's usually 35mpg.

[07WYarisRS]

I just started driving my liftback again after having it parked up for 3 weeks. I'm seeing a 5% drop in fuel economy. Granted, the weather had become close to freezing since I last drove the car, but the really really cold weather is still awhile aways. I'm hopping the 5% drop isn't going to get worst as the weather gets colder, or I'm gonna be pissed. I got 33mpg in the last tank, when it's usually 35mpg.


With any fuel injected car your mileage will drop with colder weather

Colder air temps or humid weather = more oxygen and more oxygen requires more fuel to maintain stoich (proper fuel air mixture)
Best thing you can do for you car here in Ontario for the winter is run a synthetic 0w-30 engine oil. If you have an manual trans swap out the trans fluid and replace it with a synthetic 75W-90
I prefer Amsoil or Redline products and they will likely give you the best performance and help restore the mileage the best.

[nsmitchell]

31.6MPG - While driving it like a "Bat out of Hell!"

[swng]

Thanks for posting your results.
Really not bad considering the driving style that you described above. I guess if you choose to drive leisurely, you will achieve something closer to the factory quoted 34 mpg for city and 40 mpg for highway driving (http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?p=33052#post33052).
Driving for fuel economy is almost as addictive as any other driving style hehehe.......
Have fun!

[AlexK]

My best tank distance so far:
506 miles on one tank (10.29 gallons US). Works out to 49.2 mpg.
This tank was all city driving (mpg is lower on the highway). No trip longer than 15 miles and a lot of cold starts.

Secret:
Shift at low RPM (2000-2500)
Use 1/3 to 1/2 throttle to accelerate up to speed
Once up to speed, coast in neutral as much as possible
Drive like your brakes don't work... coast to a slow speed before stopping
Try to maintain momentum around corners

MPG since new
http://www.akuniverse.com/yarismpg.bmp

[zyovka]

Oh, well, our first experience with milage, 'cause first tank of gas is over. It was like 70/30 driving in the city and on the highway. Estimated mpg came out to 34.4 miles per gallon. To be frank I expected a little bit better milage, but, hopefully, because of our engine still has only less than 400 miles, may be it will break-in. I also noticed, that people here are getting better results driving manual Yaris and mine is automatic.

[Black Yaris]

[QUOTE=AlexK]mpg is lower on the highway [QUOTE]
only time gas milage is worse on the expresway is if you drive a hyrid. Stop and go traffic uses much more gas than staying at a constant speed

[07WYarisRS]

or unless you drive it too fast
stick with the spped limits and you will use less fuel on the highway

[AlexK]

only time gas milage is worse on the expresway is if you drive a hyrid.

... or if you drive like I mentioned above.

[nsmitchell]

Oh, well, our first experience with milage, 'cause first tank of gas is over. It was like 70/30 driving in the city and on the highway. Estimated mpg came out to 34.4 miles per gallon. To be frank I expected a little bit better milage, but, hopefully, because of our engine still has only less than 400 miles, may be it will break-in. I also noticed, that people here are getting better results driving manual Yaris and mine is automatic.

34.4MPG with only 400 miles of break in is AWESOME! With 30% city driving, that is even better! You should be excited!

[littlecarlove]

With any fuel injected car your mileage will drop with colder weather

Colder air temps or humid weather = more oxygen and more oxygen requires more fuel to maintain stoich (proper fuel air mixture)
Best thing you can do for you car here in Ontario for the winter is run a synthetic 0w-30 engine oil. If you have an manual trans swap out the trans fluid and replace it with a synthetic 75W-90
I prefer Amsoil or Redline products and they will likely give you the best performance and help restore the mileage the best.

Ok - NOW I’m really confused…
I’m not a car guy so please explain:
If cold weather will cause you to see a drop in mpg then why
doesn’t adding a Cold Air Intake do the same thing???:iono:

Hays

[pxpaulx]

Ok - NOW I’m really confused…
I’m not a car guy so please explain:
If cold weather will cause you to see a drop in mpg then why
doesn’t adding a Cold Air Intake do the same thing???:iono:

Hays

As long as it is not TOO hot or TOO cold, a cold air intake allows for more air to flow through the engine, which somehow (i'm not technical obviously) leads to a small increase in engine economy. it does this because it is taking air outside of the car at ambient temperatures rather than the air inside the hood, which is hot because of the engine.

In colder or hot weather, i believe the efficiency effects of a cold air intake will diminish. someone with more knowledge correct me if i'm wrong!

[theladybug]

I'm not too thrilled with my fuel economy. Granted, I'm only a quarter of the way through my third tank, and didn't count the first one that the dealer put in, but still. I thought it would be better.

My YarisHB has just over 1000 km on it now. I typically drive about 90km a day, all of it in bumper to bumper rush hour, stop and go, highway traffic - which in my opinion, is way worse than city driving as far as fuel economy goes. [Those of you who live in the GTA know what the 401/427/Gardiner are like during rush hour.]

So, on my last tank, I got 479 km out of 38.45 litres of gasoline, making my consumption 8.02L / 100km. That was driving very conservatively. I knew it probably wouldn't hit spec, but I didn't think it'd be THAT far off!

While I hope my numbers get better, I will say that I am already getting infinitely better fuel economy than I was on my previous vehicle - a '98 Neon - and than my husband is getting on his current vehicle - a '98 Sunfire. So I'm still happy!

[stuffy]

theladybug,

you will probably see some improvements in fuel economy once your engine breaks-in a little more,
but with the type of driving you are doing, i wouldn't expect to see great numbers,

i average about 34 mpg (us gallons) or 6.9L /100 km and my driving is mostly city driving with just short trips,
but the best i have achieved is 45 mpg on tanks that are entirely hwy driving.