Fuel Economy

[swng]

People choose the Yaris for a variety of reasons. Many choose it for its fuel economy. This is an important area where the Yaris is believed to out perform its rivals. I think it is appropiate to start a thread for fuel economy here so that members can exchange information on this important topic. My car(see left) has been giving me about 14 kilometers per liter i.e.7.14 liters per 100km. That is about 39.5 miles per imperial gallon or 32.9 miles per US gallon. I believe my numbers are about average among fellow Yaris drivers. I look forward to seeing more postings on this subject.

[wushumasterku]

my first tank:

530km with 39.33 L

[stormdog]

:wink: I have a 2006 auto and I am driving 50/50 city and highway, up hills and on the flats also 50/50, for 100km. to work and back. I find if I drive aggresively I will get 39 mpg. If I take it easy and keep the revs under 2500 at at all times the mpg goes up to 42. I expect that will improve as the car gets more kms. on it. Right now I have 1400kms. on it. Based on the goverment testing I was hoping for, at best, about 44 when the car was broken in. I am really pleased with my Yaris, its quiet on the highway, feels really stable, is peppy, is big inside and just looks well built with quality finishing.

[wushumasterku]

second bar is about to go soon (i'm guessing).. i drove 150km with that. not bad!

[hhcchen]

my first tank:

530km with 39.33 L

1 km=0.62 mile
1 galon=3.78 liter

if my conversion is correct... then...

530km/39.33L x 0.62mi/km x 3.78L/g = 31.58 mpg
so that's the reading for american...

[wushumasterku]

1 km=0.62 mile
1 galon=3.78 liter

if my conversion is correct... then...

530km/39.33L x 0.62mi/km x 3.78L/g = 31.58 mpg
so that's the reading for american...

what was the advertised mpg?

[hhcchen]

sources have been saying 34/40 mpg...
but nothing official from toyota.com yet...

[p2filz]

wow i expected alot more if it is only that much mpg (32ish american mpg) ill start heading back to the xb... by the way what rpms are you revving when your at 80 mph

[hhcchen]

i hope that's the unbroken in mpg...
anyone broken in there yaris yet...???
anyone with 1000+ mile/1600+ km yaris yet...???

[as400g33k]

i got about the same result as wushu on my first tank. i find that if i drive conservatively my fuel consumption is not that high. so i try to drive conservatively, plus its still in its break-in period. current odo reading is now 975kms nearing the 1,000km first service by toyota.

[swng]

Interesting! My dealer has never mentioned to me that there should be a 1,000km service. May be we don't have that in Canada, so the next, or first, service due for my car should be at 8,000km. I am now on my 4th tank and the fuel efficiency I have this far achieved is not too different from those numbers that are posted at above by fellow members.

[wushumasterku]

my second tank still..

so far.. 380km and i got 3 full bars left... not good.. but not horrible as well.

i used to get 325km on 60L.. premium gas.. can you guess which vehicle it was?

[echo_hrs]

1st tank - 640 km/397 miles

16 kilometres/litre or 38.5 miles/gallon

6.25 litres per 100 kilometres

This was during warmer than seasonal October...The car has been stored for winter...

Cheers

[swng]

1st tank - 640 km/397 miles

16 kilometres/litre or 38.5 miles/gallon

6.25 litres per 100 kilometres

This was during warmer than seasonal October...The car has been stored for winter...

Cheers
Echo_hrs is the leader of the pack this far.

[swng]

my second tank still..

so far.. 380km and i got 3 full bars left... not good.. but not horrible as well.

i used to get 325km on 60L.. premium gas.. can you guess which vehicle it was?
Let me guess, if it uses premium gas, chances are it is a performance car. Can it be an Acura or a German car? Okay, okay, tell me what it is please.

[wushumasterku]

Let me guess, if it uses premium gas, chances are it is a performance car. Can it be an Acura or a German car? Okay, okay, tell me what it is please.

no more guesses??
haha

well, it's got 60L tank plus reserves, so it's not compact performance like civic/celica/prelude or something like that..

[why?]

how about a Ferrari?

[wushumasterku]

how about a Ferrari?

i think v10 will drink way more, no?

[as400g33k]

is it japanese or european? if its japanese, it could be a subaru liberty :shrug:

[why?]

i think v10 will drink way more, no?

The F430 is a v8. Ferrari does not produce a v10

[wushumasterku]

The F430 is a v8. Ferrari does not produce a v10

are you sure? i thought the tessarossa was a v10.. ???

[wushumasterku]

is it japanese or european? if its japanese, it could be a subaru liberty :shrug:

well, it is japanese :) not subaru.. you mean legacy?

[wushumasterku]

are you sure? i thought the tessarossa was a v10.. ???

if not, then the ferrari f1 car is v10.. pretty sure

[why?]

They don't produce the Testarossa anymore. Yes, the F1 is V10, but you can't buy that.

Was it a Supra?

[wushumasterku]

They don't produce the Testarossa anymore. Yes, the F1 is V10, but you can't buy that.

Was it a Supra?

that was close, very close.. haha
bigger than supra

[why?]

Bigger than a Supra? Lexus SC400?

[wushumasterku]

ahhahahah ok this is going nowhere.

it was a SUV. xterra

[why?]

yuck. No wonder you switched to a yaris.

[swng]

I got 557km from 41.048l for the last tank with 30/70 city/highway driving. That is 38+ miles per imperial gallon or 31+ miles per US gallon.

[yaris3]

In my case, 20 dollars, my Yaris tank is full. I pay in Puerto rico 50 cents per liter. I drive approximately 260 miles (city and highway)

[swng]

In my case, 20 dollars, my Yaris tank is full. I pay in Puerto rico 50 cents per liter. I drive approximately 260 miles (city and highway)
Wow! You have cheap gas to enjoy! Here in B.C., Canada, we pay about $0.9Cdn per liter. That is about $0.774US per liter. I am trying very hard to achieve better fuel economy.

[why?]

I got 557km from 41.048l for the last tank with 30/70 city/highway driving. That is 38+ miles per imperial gallon or 31+ miles per US gallon.

I hope your gas mileage gets better. I just can't get over that mileage. I almost got that high in my Viggen when I was trying to be good. Of course it was torture the whole way.

[swng]

Hello why? If you can achieve near-Yaris fuel economy with a Saab, you must be a very skillful driver:clap: . I say so because the Yaris is known to me to be the most fuel efficient sub-compact gasoline car sold in Canada. We are all waiting for summer when the warm weather will help us achieve even better fuel economy. Please keep in touch and you will see better and better results reported on this thread in due course. May be one will be from you!

[why?]

lol, hopefully. A new car would be fun.

[wushumasterku]

my second tank came to..

522km with 38.01L

[why?]

That is 7.28 l/100km, or 38.8 Imp mpg. Or 32.31 US MPG.

[swng]

Yes, your calculations are correct. You must have the right formulae handy.

[why?]

lol formula. I call it a link.http://www.vehicleservice.co.za/calc/fuel.html

[swng]

Thanks! Here is my appreciation :thumbup: . I am sure the guests/ members who pay visits to or post on this thread will find the link useful. In return, I would like to invite you to visit http://en.autos.sympatico.msn.ca/advice/windowshop.aspx?contentid=4022932. You will find proof from there that our beloved Yaris is the most fuel efficient gasoline car available to us:clap:. Cheers.

[Ziv]

Strange to my Yaris tho, it runs for 560Km then suddenly the fuel start blankin'. But there were 2 level left when I started the car, then start blanking after 1 or 2 Km, I think the reader is a bit off, but 18Litres put it over half a tank..... I heard the gas tank work as V shapes, so it drains faster in the bottom. Can anybody provide that information????

[why?]

The Yaris should be the 2nd best gas only vehicle sold in the US. The first is still the Corolla.

[wushumasterku]

thanks for the calculation , "why?"

:)

[Ziv]

Well, actually, the Corolla is 8 and 6 where as Yaris is 7 and 5. City/Hwy

[why?]

Well, actually, the Corolla is 8 and 6 where as Yaris is 7 and 5. City/Hwy

Really? That is surprising. In the US, the Corolla is advertised as 32 city and 41 highway. The Yaris has been advertised as 34 city and 40 highway.

Which Corolla is advertised as 8 and 6? On Toyota.ca they are advertised ranging from 7.1/5.3 to 7.8/5.6, while the XRS is 9.2/6.4.

The Yaris is advertised as 6.9/5.5 & 7.1/5.8.

So the mileage is advertised similarly. The Corollas will get better highway mileage while the Yaris will do better in the city.

Of course the echo was the same way and people told me the Echo averaged about 40 US mpg.

[Ziv]

Close enough, ha ha. Seriously, you could probably cannot tell the differences as much as the stats. unless of courze the differences is beyond 1 or 2 clicks per litre. For how light the Yaris is, I would think its less gas cosuming than corolla...
Anyways, it's all comes down to HOW you drive. If you floor it in the lights, damn stright the tank goes fast. If you inital your car smoothly under 2500RPM (Like myself). Tank will last much, and I mean MUCH longer.
*Keep in mind, people, VVTI suppose to start off slow then fast*

[why?]

Rofl, anyways most echo owners I've talked to average 40 mpg US.

I've heard that Canadian mpg estimates are just as bad as the US one.

[kralmrax]

does anyone have any estimates of how long the fuel gage will "blink empty" before the car runs dry, just wondering if there is a small cushion for procrastinators like myself.

[swng]

To be on the conservative side, my estimate is 80+km(highway) or 60+km(city). My observation is that if you procrastinate, at about 20kms after it starts, the blinking will become faster. At that point, you had better fill up.

[yariman]

I have run a few times with the bar blinking fast for a little while and when I fill it it takes 39 Litres. The tank I think is 41 Litres?

[swng]

The tank is supposed to hold 42l but I have found out that you can fill it with one or two liters more than 42. It may not be advisable to do so though.

[birdy]

The tank is supposed to hold 42l but I have found out that you can fill it with one or two liters more than 42. It may not be advisable to do so though.
thats usually what the filler tube holds

[Ziv]

I am still not sure why my fuel gauge blinks after roughly 560 clicks(km). I though it can runs further than that... how about you guys????

[echo_hrs]

I am still not sure why my fuel gauge blinks after roughly 560 clicks(km). I though it can runs further than that... how about you guys????

It blinks on the last bar, to remind you that you are low on fuel. You'll definitely still get quite a few kms out of it on the last bar, although I wouldn't recommend that you stray too far from a gas station at that point.

[Ziv]

It blinks on the last bar, to remind you that you are low on fuel. You'll definitely still get quite a few kms out of it on the last bar, although I wouldn't recommend that you stray too far from a gas station at that point.

ahh.. i see. because the first few bar seems to drop 70+/-clicks each.... so I thought the last could probably last just as much. hehe. if it did, which mean it can run roughly 600+clicks without refuel. :headbang: Time to travel to a REAL good ski hill, hehe.

[stormdog]

:smile: I have 5000kms. on my auto 4 door. When new I would go about 525 km. on 39 liters. Now after some breakin?, I am routinely going 640 km. on the same 39 liters. Same 50/50 highway/city going to work route, same driving habits- trying to stay at a max. 2500 rpm. Works out to about 46 mpg.(Canadian gallon)
Couldn't hope for any better considering Transport Canada rates it 40mpg.city and 50mpg. highway.

[AngryBusDriver]

:smile: I have 5000kms. on my auto 4 door. When new I would go about 525 km. on 39 liters. Now after some breakin?, I am routinely going 640 km. on the same 39 liters. Same 50/50 highway/city going to work route, same driving habits- trying to stay at a max. 2500 rpm. Works out to about 46 mpg.(Canadian gallon)
Couldn't hope for any better considering Transport Canada rates it 40mpg.city and 50mpg. highway.

It does get better the more you drive it. I have just over 13,000km on mine and I am hitting the advertised economy rating. My commute is about 95+% highway and I am getting 5.557l/ 100km which works out to 50.853 mpg. Just make sure you keep her under 110kph :wink:

[jay]

Thought I'd chime in here and add to the statistics :wink:

I have ~4000km on my 5dr LE w/AT. As a rough guess, I do 70% hwy/30% city time-wise.

My fuel economy so far (as a total avg) is 7.15L/100km. This has been mostly in the dead of winter (I took delivery end Oct 2006). I do try to drive gently and pay attention to excessive idling, acceleration, & speed.

My best and worst figures have been 6.88L/100km (did more hwy) & 7.52L/100km (did more city).

Decent I supose, but I had hoped for numbers a bit closer to the gov't posted figures (at 5.8L/7.1L) . It is encouraging to hear from AngryBusDriver (cool handle BTW :cool: ) that things should improve with time.

[swng]

Hooray:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:! Please forgive the conceit and complacency and cheer with me for the fact that this thread has been visited more than a thousand times! Let us face it fellow members, fuel economy is one of the important factors that make the Yaris popular, and warmer weather is around the corner.... So keep posting here!

[why?]

Wow, that is impressive.

[swng]

My 6th tank has helped me cover 591.8km. Refilling till spill took 43.808l.
Translation:
38.5mpg(imp) or 33.1mpg(US) approx.
13.51km/l
7.4l/100km
About average. But warm weather should be coming.........

[why?]

Your mileage is improving, good to see.

[Ziv]

Is it true that it burn more gasoline durin' summer than winter?

[echo_hrs]

Is it true that it burn more gasoline durin' summer than winter?

The exact opposite, actually, it burns more gas in the winter, and this is the same for all cars...

[Ziv]

The exact opposite, actually, it burns more gas in the winter, and this is the same for all cars...

oh.... really? I thought gasoline will evaporate into the fat-air. Wow, that's even better news. ha ha.

[why?]

In the 60's and earlier gasoline did use to evaporate, however fuel systems and emissions control are now such that any modern car will give off less emissions while being used hard then most 60's cars did while idling.

[Ziv]

In the 60's and earlier gasoline did use to evaporate, however fuel systems and emissions control are now such that any modern car will give off less emissions while being used hard then most 60's cars did while idling.

ah... i see.... cuz most of the travelin' would be during summer. well, other than skiing. ha ha.

There is much more to learn.

[Gnyus]

My average so far is 6,7 L / 100 km with about 30 city 70 highway. On the highway I drive fast 90% of the time between 120 and 150 km/h and carry 1 or two passenger (ski trips) I have 8600 km on the car!

[why?]

Did I post this link (http://www.sciencemadesimple.net/fuel_economy.php) earlier? It lets you convert from one fuel economy measurement to others.

6.7 l/100km is 35.11 US MPG. That is pretty good.

[Ziv]

sweet, thanx.

[swng]

Did I post this link (http://www.sciencemadesimple.net/fuel_economy.php) earlier? It lets you convert from one fuel economy measurement to others.

6.7 l/100km is 35.11 US MPG. That is pretty good.

Thank you! That's useful!

[swng]

Your mileage is improving, good to see.
Thank you. The best is yet to come.

[why?]

Thank you! That's useful!

You're welcome.

And yes it is.

[wushumasterku]

latest tank
444.4km with 32.097L
that's 7.22L/100km

[GabL]

latest tank
444.4km with 32.097L
that's 7.22L/100km

I got roughly the same mileage... but in the beginning, I can only get around 450km from a full tank... now I can get 450 with two bars left!

[Ziv]

I notice it dropped a bar roughly every 70clicks or so, lately it's been dropping every 75-78. I guess it's gettin' better and better. Of courze, I use only 91 or 92. whichever higher is available.

[wushumasterku]

^ why do you use 91 or 92??

[Ziv]

^ why do you use 91 or 92??

why not? when I was driving my old altima('99), 91 and 92 last better than 87.

[swng]

There are people who believe that higher octane fuel can give them better mileage. Some say higher octane fuel will also make cars last longer and maintenance cheaper and easier. I do not want to dispute. People are entitled to make their own judgements and free choices. I only want to point out that higher octane fuel can cost up to 10+% more than Octane No.87 fuel, and it is highly doubtful if one can get 10+% more mileage by switching to higher octane fuel. Also, some people feel that higher octane fuel can make their cars more peppy. If that is true(I don't know), I think it will be up to the individual concerned to decide if the perceived improvement can justify the additional cost.

For myself, if the user's manual says Octane No.87 fuel is o.k., I will use it, as long as my car is properly maintained and not too old.

[GabL]

Should follow what the user manual recommanded to you, I think the manufacturer knows more about the car than yourself! :wink:

http://autorepair.about.com/od/enginefuelgasolines/a/highoctanegas.htm

[wushumasterku]

for me, i only use 92 or 94 in my prelude cuz it requires it
and in my xterra supercharged, it required it too.

i was waiting for the day my yaris came in so i can start using 87.

[why?]

Actually in the USA they use 93 octane for the testing procedures for gas mileage and for horsepower. It makes it so they do not have to change fuels for different vehicles.

Higher octane fuel will definately give more power if the vehicle's ECU can adjust for it. Same thing for gas mileage. I'd be surprised if you could find a vehicle that would not adjust for slighty higher octane fuel.

Still, the actual cost vs extra mileage would have to be figured out.

[Ziv]

For those of us in North America, I am sure you guys have heard enough commerical about 'higher octane fuel' will make your car goes better, more mileage, better for your engine.... etc. Matter in fact, Petro Canada have a commerical about keep using their WINTER FUEL would 'clean your engine' effect or sort.

Any of you believe any of that? and how relieable is the source of Petro's Commerical compare to >about.com< for 'high-octane gasoline does not outperform regular octane in preventing engine deposits from forming' ??

For meself, I will stick with my experience (91,92) for now, but the manual DID mention about using 87. Plus I went to the dealer yesterday and they said yeah, use 91, use 91! ha ha......... so it's like a crossroad.

[why?]

Gasoline itself does not clean engines. Additives that gas companies put in their gasoline is what does the cleaning.

Gas companies usually put the most and strongest additives in the highest octane fuels.

[yariman]

The Yaris engine is designed to run on the fuel that is recomended in your manual. ( different parts of the world ) Unless you can change the timing and fuel maps etc. it won't run any better on a higher octane fuel. There are more additives in better fuels such as Chevron has more Techron in their higher graded fuels.

[NickNickNick]

3700km on my 06 Yaris, I get about 800km to a 42L tank.

[yariman]

WOW:eyebulge: Are all your roads downhill? That's amazing!

[p2filz]

why not? when I was driving my old altima('99), 91 and 92 last better than 87.
higher octane only makes the gas burn slower so that higher compression engines dont knock and ping. i dont know about cleaning agents in higher octane being in higher quantity but what ever like said before if the car specifies higher then do so if not dont those are my $.02

[NickNickNick]

WOW:eyebulge: Are all your roads downhill? That's amazing!

Nope, actually I live in Saskatchewan where everything's flat.

I thought that was a little high, but I went from Regina to Yorkton (160km) to Regina (160km) to Medicine Hat (500km) and didn't fill until Medicine Hat, and got 41.6L in or something.

[swng]

That would appear to be a lot of highway driving. Still great numbers!

[why?]

higher octane only makes the gas burn slower so that higher compression engines dont knock and ping. i dont know about cleaning agents in higher octane being in higher quantity but what ever like said before if the car specifies higher then do so if not dont those are my $.02

Almost all cars will be able to adjust for higher octane gasoline, so their will be some benefit.

[Ziv]

Blah, guess I will just mix it around, I felt as if higher octane give me better milage. and manual did said use as low as 87. So guess I'll be switching back and fourth, what could be the harm, right?

[p2filz]

no, not really i agree cars could adjust for lower octane by puttin in less gas per shot. but the car wont make any more power just because u put higher octane in.

[foober]

no, not really i agree cars could adjust for lower octane by puttin in less gas per shot. but the car wont make any more power just because u put higher octane in.

Will better spark plugs help. I've been using those quad platinum ones on my other cars and they seem to give it more get up and go. NOt sure about the gas milage.

[why?]

Blah, guess I will just mix it around, I felt as if higher octane give me better milage. and manual did said use as low as 87. So guess I'll be switching back and fourth, what could be the harm, right?

There should be no harm in switching back and forth.

no, not really i agree cars could adjust for lower octane by puttin in less gas per shot. but the car wont make any more power just because u put higher octane in.

You are mistaken. The ECU does the adjusting by retarding timing so that no knocking happens. When you put a higher octane in, the ECU can advance timing to take advantage of the better gas for better performance.

Their is a reason all testing is done on 93 octane gas.


Will better spark plugs help. I've been using those quad titanium ones on my other cars and they seem to give it more get up and go. NOt sure about the gas milage.

Better spark plugs will help, but I read somewhere that Toyota recommends against using titanium and platinum spark plugs in the Yaris for some reason.

[yariman]

The engines management system is designed to give best fuel economy, lowest emissions etc. on low octane fuel.There are certain parameters programmed within the ecu for timing and fuel delivery. The set parameters will not continually advance the timing when better fuel is added.The timing will only advance to a point designed for low octane fuel. If any pinging or knocking is detected, timing will be retarded to prevent engine damage. Timing will only increase to the max that is allowed within the program. Hence why we can buy and replace prom chips that will allow more timing and more fuel delivery. An engine that is tuned for low octane fuel will not add any power or increased fuel economy or increased durability etc. etc. with higher octane fuel. You simply are wasting your money. Cheapest/easiest mods for power and increased economy are letting the engine breath easier. ie: better flowing air intake and exhaust.

[why?]

I believe that the ECU will advance to a point where it can take advantage of 93 octane fuel.

If that was not the case, why on earth would manufacturers give hp ratings and fuel economy ratings and make sure you know that the car was tested with 93 octane fuel?

[yariman]

Is the yaris designed to run optimum on 93 octane fuel? My manual says 87 to 91. I do not think you would see any noticable difference between 87 and 93 in the Yaris. It isn't that much of a difference money wise anyways at the pumps. If a person feels better using 91 or 93 go for it, see if there is a difference. Personally until I get a performance chip, I will stick with 87. We are getting ripped as it is at the pumps.

[why?]

I don't know if it will actually make any difference, I'm just commenting that the manufacturers seem to bend over backwards to make sure we know all tests are run using 93 octane fuel.

[yariman]

Wonder if there is some sorta tie-in with the oil companies? Make people think " Gee maybe I should use 93 too" Maybe the car manufactorors really are getting some gains from it, I certainly am not an expert, but everything that I and a lot of others know about engines points to no advantages for this application. Hey, I guess try it for yourselves, my only problem is that I hate to see people get burned more than we already are. This is my final answer.

[why?]

lol, you could be right. I wouldn't be surprised if the automobile manufacturers get a kickback from the oil companies, or they would've been sincere in finding alternatives to oil.

I prolly will test it when I finally do get my Yaris, which will hopefully be in May or June, but I don't have the money to preorder one, so we shall see.

[Ziv]

So far... I just switched back to 87... from 92.

But I did a lot less highway and much more city on 92 tank, so it's really hard to say. I did not notice any "significant" gain in milage on 92, not as much as my last car. Both roughly 560~80 clicks.

**
And yeah, like I mentioned before, when I went back to the dealer, they are tryin' to make that chant in your ears "high octane, high octane....."
**

[GabL]

And yeah, like I mentioned before, when I went back to the dealer, they are tryin' to make that chant in your ears "high octane, high octane....."

You mean the tech ppl in the dealer or the sales man? The sales man knows nothing about cars, they don't even know what the real meaning of horsepower is! :smile:

[why?]

You mean the tech ppl in the dealer or the sales man? The sales man knows nothing about cars, they don't even know what the real meaning of horsepower is! :smile:

LOL! I've met sales people that know nothing even about the model history of the cars they sell.

[Ziv]

You mean the tech ppl in the dealer or the sales man? The sales man knows nothing about cars, they don't even know what the real meaning of horsepower is! :smile:

Actually it was the tech guys. They hosted a seminar for all new car buyer or somethin', I went there for free coffee. And that's where I heard we 'might' have to bring our new Yaris back for recall. Again, not sure what for, when or anything yet.

[swng]

Latest tank: About 37.99 miles/imp.galon or about 32.75 miles/US galon or about 13.47 kms/liter or about 7.424 liters per 100 kms. My results have been quite consistent(=no improvement:frown:).

[yariman]

Almost identical swng!

[foober]

swng and yariman, is that with an automatic or manual transmission.

[yariman]

Mine is an auto

[swng]

swng and yariman, is that with an automatic or manual transmission.

It is an auto foober.

To yariman: now we have safety in "numbers" :wink:.

[yariman]

Right on!!:w00t:

[foober]

how do you like your automatic transmissions. Any pro's or cons you could talk about. I still haven't decided which one to get.

[swng]

Hi friend. Members who like manual transmissions will find it very difficult to agree to give up the driving fun and versatility that associate with that kind of transmission.

However, if I am to speak in favour of an auto, I would say that the auto transmission in the Yaris is especially good considering that you almost will not have to give up any fuel economy by choosing it. Please remember, I said almost! This is rare, to say the least. Most auto cars use more fuel to cover the same distance than their manual equivalents.

The auto transmission box on my car has been smooth and trouble free this far(since mid-Oct 05) While it does not have a complete manual option like those found in the expensive cars, its design does allow a little manual selection i.e. you can manually instruct the car to down shift from the 4th to the 3rd gear when you decide that circumstances justify doing so. You just have to pull the gear stick from the right to the left(NB:mine is LHD) to achieve that, and the result is almost instant. Even if you do not do that, you can still kick down easily and the transmission can react to your action at the throttle quite quickly. Actually, my car is quite peppy.

On the whole, I consider my auto difficult to abuse but easy to use(good for my wife), easy to park, easy to drive in hilly areas like the place I live in, easy to control in stop and go situations, and it should be easy to maintain(no manual type clutches to replace). Most importantly, it is one of the very few auto transmissions that almost will not cost you more than a manual equivalent car when it comes to fuel economy. It is almost unique in that respect in the whole market.

However, if you want to have all the driving fun and versatility you can get, then.........

[yariman]

When I went to the dealer to test drive the Yaris, I already had my mind made up that I would purchase a standard, remembering how gutless a four banger is with an auto. However I thought I would try the new four speed computerized auto. I was amazed that it had pretty much the same power as the standard and I could drive with one hand on the wheel and the other holding my coffee cup. Don't get me wrong, I love to bang through gears with a manual box, but since the Yaris isn't a real screamer I find it nice to stick it in drive and relax. Quite often I wind it up to the rev limiter manually to get all it's got to offer and get a good firm shift to the next gear. Also off the line I can punch it and not get too much wheel-spin and actually take a few other vehicles til the next light. It is nice to be able to drive in "luxery mode" when I feel lazy, plus my wife enjoys it more and my daughter is learning how to drive as well.:thumbsup:

[foober]

thanks yariman and swng, I'll probably go with auto then if the right one is available. Hopefully I'll get to test both manual and auto out to see what is most comfortable.

[swng]

Whatever you choose, best of luck! Please do not forget to post your fuel economy on this thread after you have driven your new car for a tank or so.

[swng]

I have tried filling my tank literally to the top. The result - the frist bar on the fuel gauge lasted 161kms. I have been warned against filling the tank to such fullness, but I do not think I really understand the reasons.

[yariman]

The reason is that you can get fuel into your evap. canistor and damage it. Fill your tank til the pump clicks off the first time. You can even out your cents but don't keep filling it to the brim.

[Adriaan]

So far my fuel mileage is good specially with this cold days my first tank was i got 450, since the i've been getting about 500 to 530 i do mostly city and have been putting in about 38 liters. my highway driving is usually at most 15 minutes. Montreal isn't that big. and on cold days i usually warm it up about 5 mintues before not bad for a winter climate. i was told by the dealership that the computer remember your driving style for the first 1500km then vary it fuel according to that. also i was told to not drive over 100km, don't rev to high shift at most 3000rpm till then so it thinks you drive efficiently. Not sure it in true, but i'm happy with the mileage i'm getting waiting till summer to see what it cae really get.

[swng]

The reason is that you can get fuel into your evap. canistor and damage it. Fill your tank til the pump clicks off the first time. You can even out your cents but don't keep filling it to the brim.

Thanks. I squeeze more fuel into the tank mainly because I want to get a longer range. With a longer range, I can afford to wait longer for the ever fluctuating fuel price to come down. Of course, if the fuel price comes down before I get close to the end of my range, I will fill up without any more waiting. In the long run, filling to the top(hence getting a longer range) means lower fuel price on average.
I do not know anything about the function of the evap. canistor but having read your previous high quality posts, I have an intuition that you are right. BTW, what will happen when the evap. canistor is damaged? Will it be costly to fix? I ask just in case mine is already damaged by over filling.
Thanks for your further advice in anticipation.

[yariman]

The Evaporative Emission control system ( EVAP) traps gasoline vapours from the fuel system and routes them to a charcoal canister, from where they go to the intake airflow to get burned by the engine. Years ago the vapours where released to the atmosphere, but today this is not allowed. When the fuel tank is filled to the brim, liquid gas can travel into vent lines that go to the charcoal canister and render the canister useless. However EVAP systems today have a liquid-vapor seperator that is designed to prevent this from happening. When the tank is as full as you can get and the vent lines and seperator are all full of liquid gas there is a chance that some liquid could get to the charcoal canister. If your canister has been contaminated you would smell raw gas. Everybody fills their tanks to the top, with todays EVAP systems the chance that any damage could be done is very low so don't worry.

[swng]

Thank you yariman for the insight. I really appreciate!

[yariman]

Your welcome!

[jay]

Some more data to report :smile:

Same habits as before, which is 70% hwy/30% city. Last 4 tanks w/10% ethanol blend fuel yielded 7.21/7.37/7.05/7.12L per 100km. Overall numbers have been steady, now at 7.17L/100km over 5800km.

Looking forward to the warmer weather.

[swng]

Some more data to report :smile:

Same habits as before, which is 70% hwy/30% city. Last 4 tanks w/10% ethanol blend fuel yielded 7.21/7.37/7.05/7.12L per 100km. Overall numbers have been steady, now at 7.17L/100km over 5800km.

Looking forward to the warmer weather.

Sounds reasonably good! Please keep posting your numbers:smile:.

[ange008]

I have not gotten my Yaris yet, I get it next week! I just have a few questions:
1. How many km do you get to each bar (automatic 5dr.)? How many bars are there?
2. Is there a trip calculator in the car, I didn't notice it on my test drive?
3.I obviously don't know much about cars, but does gas mileage get better when you break it in? cause I thought it was the other way around...:confused:

[swng]

Hello, here are my observations:

1. About 90 to 170 for the top bar and about 50 to 90 for the others, depending on many factors. There are eight bars. All bars do not last equally long.
2. No for cars in Canada, if you mean sophisticated computerized trip/fuel calculators. However, there are three readings available at the odometer so you can record and read the total distance the car has travelled in its life and two independent trips. The two trip meter readings can be cancelled for re-use in new trips.
3. Yes, if other factors e.g. weather, driving style etc. remain at least unchanged.

Enjoy your new car!

[Ziv]

Well, here's my input:

First bar tops is 130 for me, min is 80 or so. Every other bar is roughly 70+/- and of courze, it makes a different in Hwy/Cty driving.

And I do have one question tho, did you guys notice that above the odometer, there are panel that is being 'unuse' which you could only probably see it in daytime (If you look really carefully, its there but is NOT lit). Such:
km/h, - 88 C, mph .. etc I notice quite a few of these are there but not being in use. Wonder if any of you guys knows how to trigger these unuse instrument that seems to be there.

Sorry if I am not being too clear, I can probably snap a photo and show you guys what i meant if you guys want to.

[GabL]

Well, here's my input:

First bar tops is 130 for me, min is 80 or so. Every other bar is roughly 70+/- and of courze, it makes a different in Hwy/Cty driving.

And I do have one question tho, did you guys notice that above the odometer, there are panel that is being 'unuse' which you could only probably see it in daytime (If you look really carefully, its there but is NOT lit). Such:
km/h, - 88 C, mph .. etc I notice quite a few of these are there but not being in use. Wonder if any of you guys knows how to trigger these unuse instrument that seems to be there.

Sorry if I am not being too clear, I can probably snap a photo and show you guys what i meant if you guys want to.

Those are probably for features available for other market (such as Japan). They probably have outside temp gauge, and trip computer. But for Canada, you only get what you can see. :wink:

[GabL]

Hello, here are my observations:
1. About 90 to 170 for the top bar and about 50 to 90 for the others, depending on many factors. There are eight bars. All bars do not last equally long.

170km for one bar? That's very good!! I guess you're just cruising at 40km/h for that 170km? :tongue:

[swng]

Thanks for the question Gabl. To avoid reposting, I will have to invite you to read my post on 3.3.06 in this thread. I am confident when warmer weather comes and after we have had proper break in, we all will do better than now. If you fill to the top like what I have done, 170km for the first bar may likely be attainable, especially in summer. If I remember correctly, our much respected fellow member echo_hrs has done exceedingly well with his new Yaris, and his first bar has probably lasted very long. He may not even have filled his tank to the very top.
Note however, there have been valid advices against filling till spill:wink::tongue::wink:.

[wushumasterku]

i've been crusing at about 120km/h to 140km/h on the highway, and the mileage is really sucking. about 270km on 4 bars..

[swng]

At that kind of speeds, you economy will be hurt by the headwind, if not the traffic tickets(no offence intended):wink: :biggrin:.

[hirosho]

It seems that my yaris (automatic) is not doing well regarding a fuel economy. I put a full tank today and it was 37.4 litres, and my odometre indicated only 444.8km driven. Most of driving for this tank was a city drive. But i think that the official number is 7.1 liter for 100km. I think that this is the third tank for my yaris excluding one from the dealer.

I wonder there is something wrong with my yaris.

[swng]

It seems that my yaris (automatic) is not doing well regarding a fuel economy. I put a full tank today and it was 37.4 litres, and my odometre indicated only 444.8km driven. Most of driving for this tank was a city drive. But i think that the official number is 7.1 liter for 100km. I think that this is the third tank for my yaris excluding one from the dealer.

I wonder there is something wrong with my yaris.

Hi hirosho! Thanks for sharing your numbers, which work out to be about 33.55 mpg(imp), or around 8.4l/100km. Not very impressive for a Yaris! However, you said that it has mostly been city driving. We all know that city driving is bad for fuel economy, and of course city driving during busy hours hurts the most. I guess you must have driven a lot in stop and go traffic. Still, I think it is right for you to be concerned. Has your car been due for service yet? Ever come across fuel saving tips like:http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportation/personal/driving/autosmart-methods.cfm?attr=8?
Please keep on posting here so that all can see if you can achieve better numbers in the future.
FYI, I consistantly get close to 40 miles per imp. gallon(last tank returned 39.83 mpg), mainly because I drive more on highways:smile:. There are folks who can do better. So, don't give up!
Thanks for joining in the discussion about fuel economy.

[hirosho]

FYI, I consistantly get close to 40 miles per imp. gallon(last tank returned 39.83 mpg), mainly because I drive more on highways:smile:. There are folks who can do better. So, don't give up!
Thanks for joining in the discussion about fuel economy.

Thank you for a reply. Well, a decker on my windsheild says, the first service will be at 6,000km, therefore, it will be due in a couple of months.

I will keep my number posted. Thanks again.

[Frink]

My 2006 5spd Yaris RS was returning milage in the 6.8 to 7 l/100km all winter.
I drive about 50 to 75% highway.
The last two tanks were 6.4 and 6.1 l/100km, I think the slightly better weather combined with a more worked in motor (about 9000km now and first oil change done) is giving me some better milage numbers.
I've also noticed that the car dosen't really mind being driven a bit more agressively. I was always trying to keep the rev's down and shift early... but as long as you're not flooring it, I dosen't really hurt the fuel economy to shift at 3500 or so.
Hopefully this keeps up and I'll be in the 5's soon.

[LAHAL]

First tank, cost me about 38 bucks, got 492.5km. when i filled up, it stopped at 38 litters, so there was still 4 litres in the tanks.

[swng]

Thank you Frink and LAHAL. Your numbers will help me and others who have joined in this fuel economy discussion know how well we and our cars are doing.
Frink, your numbers are good!
LAHAL, not a bad start and I believe your numbers will improve as your car begins to break in.
Please keep posting here and thank you again!

[Ziv]

So..... oil change actually does improve milage? My number seems to be getting worst for the last week or so, and I got rougly 5000km.

[mfpc]

It seems that my yaris (automatic) is not doing well regarding a fuel economy. I put a full tank today and it was 37.4 litres, and my odometre indicated only 444.8km driven. Most of driving for this tank was a city drive. But i think that the official number is 7.1 liter for 100km. I think that this is the third tank for my yaris excluding one from the dealer.

I wonder there is something wrong with my yaris.


Yello - got 460 KMs on my shiny new Silver 06 RS 5 door with the auto (and occasionally I've been enjoying the rev happy engine quite a bit I must say...)

460KM's and like less than 10 KM's ago the third bar tripped so I am left with two bars on the fuel guage..

I don't think my autotrans is hurting the economy at this point.

I intend to use a jerrycan and run the tank as dry as I dare, but it seems even at this early point my autoyaris is getting way better numbers than your machine my friend - maybe she is sick...

Alot of hills in your area by any chance? I'm in rolly southern ontario - lots of mild hills, nothing too strenuous...

RC

[mfpc]

how do you like your automatic transmissions. Any pro's or cons you could talk about. I still haven't decided which one to get.

I got the auto for my wife, shes a nervous driver with a stick-shift.

I am REALLY happy with the auto in this car! I've had a bunch of cars with various autos (ther worst being my F-150's slushbox... alot of revving, not alot of forward momentum...)

The Yaris-Electro-slushbox is a rather clever peice of kit with all its electronically controlled clutches... not alot of Auto-gear-hunting as is present on many xmissions (finally marketing hype that ISN'T hype!!). I hate the spindly shifter stalk, and the gating maked for alot of Neutrals when I should be in drive (I guess I'll get used to the fancy gating) but the quick drop to third out of OD makes ofr enthusiastic passing on the highway.

No complaints bro - in city stop-and-go I DEFINITELY don't miss the stick, and dropping to 3rd using the gate-shift gives me that manual thrill (albeit not quite the same I admit)

lets see if my tune is the same after another 460KM's

rc

[swng]

Once again, I filled till it spilled and the first fuel gauge bar lasted 185.3km(30/70% city/highway driving). I may not do it again. Just could not resist the temptaton of doing it for once or twice.

[wushumasterku]

you spilled it? haha sorry.
was it alot that spilled?

was it empty when you went to fill it?

[Ziv]

Once again, I filled till it spilled and the first fuel gauge bar lasted 185.3km(30/70% city/highway driving). I may not do it again. Just could not resist the temptaton of doing it for once or twice.

Very impressive 185.3 for first fuel. Max I have got is near 130 clicks.

I bet you guys answer that question already, but what's the max Litre when you guys filled. from nearly empty, let's say. I have filled 40.8 Litres before and the last gauge bar was flashin' like crazy. In manual it said its 42. I figure 42-40.8, it's like I have less than a 2L coke in there.... haha.

[swng]

you spilled it? haha sorry.
was it alot that spilled?

was it empty when you went to fill it?

Thanks for the question. Only a few drops were actually wasted because I watched very carefully. Very soon after the last fuel gauge bar began to blink, I refilled. So the tank was not empty. I was able to put in 41.593l. I GUESS that if you do fill to the top, you can squeeze in a couple of liters more than the manual specified 42l. However, let me repeat that there have been advices against so doing. That is why I said that I may not do it again.

[swng]

Very impressive 185.3 for first fuel. Max I have got is near 130 clicks.

I bet you guys answer that question already, but what's the max Litre when you guys filled. from nearly empty, let's say. I have filled 40.8 Litres before and the last gauge bar was flashin' like crazy. In manual it said its 42. I figure 42-40.8, it's like I have less than a 2L coke in there.... haha.

Well, I guess I have not had too many traffic jams:wink:. If you fill to the top carefully, you can squeeze in at least a couple of liters more than the manual specified 42l. But please see my last post and some previous posts in this thread speaking against so doing.

[Ziv]

understood. Thank you.

[mfpc]

Yello - got 460 KMs on my shiny new Silver 06 RS 5 door with the auto (and occasionally I've been enjoying the rev happy engine quite a bit I must say...)

460KM's and like less than 10 KM's ago the third bar tripped so I am left with two bars on the fuel guage.. I don't think my autotrans is hurting the economy at this point.

RC

542 KM's is when i lost my nerve to fill it up.

39.36 Litres into the tank

My oh my I have never seen an Automatic Transmission car achieve fuel economy like that! Maybe the people on the forum here with the stick are too rev happy? I can't imagine that this being my first tank of fuel in the car I'll see numbers much worse than that.

They say it gets better after the moving parts in the car 'breaks in'? WHOO HOO!!

About the driver/terrain - Total mixed driving, lots of city, lots of rural highway... Its Waterloo/Wellington township so gently rolling hills everywhere... I've just gotten the car, so its not being thrashed within an inch of its life, but its not being babied either - after all I've been showing it off :thumbsup:

1st tank = 7.3 L/100 KM's or 39 MPG... I think thats about fair - love the car!:respekt:



rc

[swng]

I agree with you mfpc. In the case of the Yaris, the auto transmission does not hurt fuel economy too much. I also have a silver RS auto and I enjoy more or less the same fuel economy as you do i.e. close to 40 miles per imperial gallon. Please keep posting your numbers.

[why?]

That is great news. We need more people to say they are getting this type of fuel economy.

If you are please post it.

There are WAY too many people whining about getting 30 or so MPG.

[Idjiit]

The fact is that any car is capable of getting crappy mileage if you drive it a certain way in certain conditions. Our Prius averages about 50mpg per tank, but if you drive the car really hard you can easily get 40mpg. One of the nice things about the Prius is that the information system in it allows you to easily see what behaviors effect mileage. And it's become very clear how much even how having proper tire pressure can effect your mileage.

In short, I won't really trust anyone's numbers but my own on this one.

[why?]

The fact is that any car is capable of getting crappy mileage if you drive it a certain way in certain conditions. Our Prius averages about 50mpg per tank, but if you drive the car really hard you can easily get 40mpg. One of the nice things about the Prius is that the information system in it allows you to easily see what behaviors effect mileage. And it's become very clear how much even how having proper tire pressure can effect your mileage.

In short, I won't really trust anyone's numbers but my own on this one.

That is all true, but up until those posts I don't think I have seen anyone stating that they've been getting the advertised mileage.

[swng]

Got 400+km with 4 fuel gauge bars remaining:cool::smile:.

[wushumasterku]

Got 400+km with 4 fuel gauge bars remaining:cool::smile:.

how ?!!!!!!?!!!!

[swng]

how ?!!!!!!?!!!!
Thanks for the question.
Against some friendly advices, I have filled literally to the top(in fact a few drops have spilled to the ground:tongue:) and gotten 183+km for the first fuel gauge bar. Then the next bar disappeared at around 270 km, the third at around 335 and the fourth stayed alive until about 410. When the fourth was gone, four bars remained.
For this tank, I have been driving about 70% of the time on highways with one passenger, plus a coupe of bags of sports gears. The A/C was off all the time and the windows closed completely. Tire pressure has been adjusted to one or two psi above the manual specified figure in order to err only on the safe side. The weather has been relatively warm but windy(may be the wind has helped) and I have not encoutered too many traffic congestions. The car now has around 4,000 kms on the odometer and should have therefore broken in a bit. I seldom drive aggressively.
This is the first time it happens to me and I may not be able to repeat the same. Please note also that the figures are round figures and I am only writing from memory. However, it is definately true that I have gotten more than 400 km from the first four bars. The trip odometer now reads 466 km and three bars are still there. One bar(the fifth) will be gone, I presume, in a matter of a few km but the range before the last bar blinks is likely to be 600 km, more or less.
I think the key factor leading to this is that I have overfilled so that I have gotten about 60 km more than usual for the first bar, that's about four liters' range. One may say that it is impossible to squeeze in four liters more than the manual specified 42 liters. However, it may actually be possible and this may be the most sensible explanation for what I am getting.

[Ziv]

To be perfectly honest, I would not trust those gauge way too much like I would depends my life on it. Most of the time when my last gauge start flashing, I will try refill it as soon as I could. Putting in 10 bucks or so. Roughly 15L or so, more or less. It will show as if I got half a tank! (Yeah, right, 10 bucks, I wish) then those 3 bars will be gone within 130~140 clicks. And gone back to flashing again. Of courze, I have to bring it up that most of my driving is in City. Probably 75 City / 25 Hwy.

[swng]

You have a valid point Ziv. That is why long term average figures are more reliable than records taken from just one or two tanks of driving. I hope fellow members, including you, will keep posting their numbers here for a long term so that we can all have an idea how well (or otherwise) our cars can do.
Regarding your observation about the fuel gauge's showing you a half full tank after you have put in only about 15 liters, I think it is not too far away from what is reasonable because when your last bar begins to blink, there should be no less than 5 liters of gasoline still remaining in your tank. My estimate is based on that the 42 liters of fuel that a full tank can hold is represented by 8 bars, hence each bar should represent an average of 5+ liters.(I use the word "average" because I believe all bars do not represent the same amount of gas in the tank.) Therefore, if on top of the 5 remaining liters you add 15 more, you will get about 20 litres in your tank which should be represented by slightly more than 3.5 bars. As half a bar cannot be shown, the gauge will show you 4 bars i.e. half a tank.
Having said that, I still fully support your view that one should not trust the accuracy of the gauge too much. When it comes to driving, it makes sense to be cautious and conservative.

[why?]

It is possible to learn exactly how far each tank can take you though.

I know If I push it my Saab can take me about 420 or so miles. That is almost completely running the tank dry.

[Ziv]

You have a valid point Ziv. That is why long term average figures are more reliable than records taken from just one or two tanks of driving. I hope fellow members, including you, will keep posting their numbers here for a long term so that we can all have an idea how well (or otherwise) our cars can do.
Regarding your observation about the fuel gauge's showing you a half full tank after you have put in only about 15 liters, I think it is not too far away from what is reasonable because when your last bar begins to blink, there should be no less than 5 liters of gasoline still remaining in your tank. My estimate is based on that the 42 liters of fuel that a full tank can hold is represented by 8 bars, hence each bar should represent an average of 5+ liters.(I use the word "average" because I believe all bars do not represent the same amount of gas in the tank.) Therefore, if on top of the 5 remaining liters you add 15 more, you will get about 20 litres in your tank which should be represented by slightly more than 3.5 bars. As half a bar cannot be shown, the gauge will show you 4 bars i.e. half a tank.
Having said that, I still fully support your view that one should not trust the accuracy of the gauge too much. When it comes to driving, it makes sense to be cautious and conservative.

Great way to analyze it, swug. I have never thought of breaking it down to rougly each gauge by Litres. It certainly make more sense. Thank you very much for your observation. :thumbsup:

I will keep on posting my number as the milage increase. Thanks again.

[swng]

It is possible to learn exactly how far each tank can take you though.

I know If I push it my Saab can take me about 420 or so miles. That is almost completely running the tank dry.

That is quite a good range why? I believe you maintain your car well.

[swng]

Great way to analyze it, swug. I have never thought of breaking it down to rougly each gauge by Litres. It certainly make more sense. Thank you very much for your observation. :thumbsup:

I will keep on posting my number as the milage increase. Thanks again.

Thanks Ziv. Your contributions make this thread meaningful.

[why?]

That is quite a good range why? I believe you maintain your car well.

It is decent, the tank holds about 17 gallons, and it gets about 26.5 mpg at this time. I did have it getting around 30 but that took a ton of patience, which I don't always have.

[cburac]

Well for me when i first brought the yaris, it gave me around 47, 48 KM per gallon now It's like 55 KM or more per gallon, here in panamá it's a lot, because we don't have lot's of highways and road like in canada or usa, in my case i have to deal with huges traffics jams in the morning and because we are a tropical country I use my air conditioner all the time.. so it's a very good average I think ..... :iono: :thumbup:


cheers


Carlos

[swng]

My last fuel gauge bar started flashing this morning at 606.5 km. I am now waiting for a temporary drop in the gasoline price so that I can fill up.

To cburac, nice numbers. I believe the warm weather in Panama is helping you.

[swng]

It is decent, the tank holds about 17 gallons, and it gets about 26.5 mpg at this time. I did have it getting around 30 but that took a ton of patience, which I don't always have.
Thanks for the information why? I am looking forward to seeing how well you can do with the Yaris that you will soon have. I believe you will do very well because you are so knowledgeable.

[why?]

Thanks for the information why? I am looking forward to seeing how well you can do with the Yaris that you will soon have. I believe you will do very well because you are so knowledgeable.

Rofl, we shall see eventually. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

[hirosho]

I filled up my tank about a couple day ago.

it was 37.07 liters after 494km drive. Anyway, it was better than before, at least.

but it is still lower than the official number which toyota published.

wait and see.

[swng]

Thanks for the numbers hirosho! That is 7.5 liters per 100 km or 31.34 mpg(US) or 37.64 mpg(imp). I would say about average for a not yet broken in car.
Please keep on posting your numbers as they inevitably improve.

[mfpc]

542 KM's is when i lost my nerve to fill it up.
39.36 Litres into the tank
They say it gets better after the moving parts in the car 'breaks in'? WHOO HOO!!

1st tank = 7.3 L/100 KM's or 39 MPG... I think thats about fair - love the car!:respekt: rc

Yello All Yarisians.

Tank numero deux, 544KM's and last bar starts flashing, 36.6L fed to Mighty Yaris... Auto Trans, 'spirited' driving, bout 70 city / 30 highway... rolling hills for terrain - 60 KM/H, and 110 KM/H typically.

1st tank = 7.3L/100 KM's or 39 MPG
2nd Tank = 6.7L/100 KM or 42 MPG

I'm not complaining about fuel consumption one bit!

Cheers...

[stuffy]

my first few tanks went quickly, but the last few have averaged 6.7L p/100km, (at 4500km) and that is driving fairly conservatively.

i think those numbers will improve this summer

[swng]

Congratulations on the improvements guys! I will post mine soon. Just waiting for the fuel price to come down a few cents so that I can fill up. I am addicted to playing this game.

[swng]

Just filled up. Got 629.9 km and topped off again with 42.42 litres. That works to -
41.95 mpg(imp) or
34.92 mpg(US) or
6.73 litres per 100km or
14.85 km per 1itre.

[stuffy]

wow swng, you sure wait until the tank is sucking air before you fill up, eh?

[Ziv]

Just filled up. Got 629.9 km and topped off again with 42.42 litres. That works to -
41.95 mpg(imp) or
34.92 mpg(US) or
6.73 litres per 100km or
14.85 km per 1itre.

Dangerous, bud. Don't think you want to go that deep that often. ha ha.

[swng]

Thanks for the good advice Ziv. I will remember that.
To Ziv and stuffy, I guess at the moment when I decided to fill up, there were still at least two litres of fuel in the tank. Despite that the manual says that the tanks holds 42 litres, one can actually squeeze in a couple of litres more into it(by filling til it spills), but it may not be good to do so. Still, that is exactly what I have done for the last couple of tanks and that is also why I was able to pump in 42+ litres yesterday. In future, I will avoid doing this. I just had to do it a few times to find out the car's range and fuel efficiency more accurately. Once I believe I have gotten a fairly good idea of the car's capabilities, I will fill only until the tank is reasonably full and refill as soon as possible when my fuel gauge is down to the last bar.
I appreciate the communication Ziv and stuffy!

[stuffy]

lol, i'm glad that you conducted that experiment and shared the knowledge rather than me!

[swng]

:smile: :smile: :smile:

[Frink]

Last 3 tanks for me:
6.5 l/100km
6.5 l/100km
6.3 l/100km
My car has around 10,000k on it now.
Gotta say I'm pretty satisfied with the mileage numbers.... looking forward to a long highway trip to try and break into the 5's (which I have only done once with my 01 Civic) :smile:

[Ziv]

lol, i'm glad that you conducted that experiment and shared the knowledge rather than me!

Can't agree more, great thanks for finding out the numbers for all of us! True warrior! ha ha.

[swng]

Can't agree more, great thanks for finding out the numbers for all of us! True warrior! ha ha.

Let's keep this thread busy:smile:!

[Ziv]

For sure! But gas price is CRAZY lately, it was 101.5 this morning. forkin' gas stations. no wonder they makes more and more each year. Good thing we all drive Yaris instead of some idiot driving SUV and complain about gas afterward.

[swng]

It is now over 110 cents per litre here in BC. I am glad that I have a Yaris. One of my ways to fight high oil price is to buy some good oil company shares or invest in mutual funds that put money in oil companies. Investment in mutual funds can be started with as little as a few hundred dollars. When oil price goes up, so will the prices of the shares or the fund units. Note: I am not a financial advisor. Consult an expert before anyone goes ahead:wink::biggrin:.

[why?]

Of course, the second any of us do that the price of oil will drop like a rock.

[Funnypants]

I don't think there's much chance we'll ever see 50 cent gas again. Ever heard of Peak Oil?
http://www.energybulletin.net/primer.php

That's one of the main reasons I'm getting a Yaris. Even if gas goes up to $3 a litre, it'll still just cost my wife and I $24 in gas to get from our house to Toronto and back - same price that GO Transit is already charging for 2 return tickets!

[foober]

Just do the math. I summed up what I get with my toyota tacoma which gets 20 miles to the gallon over a year. I usually drive 12.000 miles. So times the 2.30 average now in gas here and it comes to 1,380 dollars.

Then you add what my new yaris will cost. Comes to 690.00 dollars.

But if you go to 3.00 a gallon which it should be by this summer. The tacoma comes to 1,800 dollars for a year with 12,000 miles driven. And the yaris comes to 900.00 dollars for the year. A savings of almost a 1000 dollars. :eek:

[swng]

And you folks can invest the money that your Yarises will save for you in oil company stocks. If gasoline price further increases to $5-6 a gallon, you will gain enough money to buy a new Yaris. Just kidding:bellyroll:.

[swng]

Of course, the second any of us do that the price of oil will drop like a rock.
So only oil companies win. We can't:brokenheart: :help:.

[mygrnthmb]

what burns me is the huge SUV people are the ones that keep demand so high which keeps prices so high....

[foober]

what burns me is the huge SUV people are the ones that keep demand so high which keeps prices so high....

Thats why in america all the hype is over the biggest most elaborate. I believe everything you hear via the media is that you have to have the biggest most tricked out thing. And if you don't have the biggest most expensive thing you are supposedly thought of as less. Alot of americans fall for it.

I think were gonna hear a loud whineing sound pretty soon when gas goes over 3.00 dollars a gallon.

[YotaYarisUSA]

My yaris will be an automatic, I live in the U.S, I will drive mainly highway to and from work about 50 miles around trip. I live in the country with curvey and mountain roads, what kind of mileage should I expect from the Yaris S.Sedan automatic? Will it really get me the 39 miles? I've heard that the Corolla gets better mileage and that the Corolla is a better highway car is this ture?


Thanks

YotaYarisUSA

[stuffy]

i can't speak for driving in mountainous roads, but if you are driving mostly highway, you should get 39 mpg.

i get 6.7 L/100 km, which is about 35 mpg and that is mostly city driving.

(i found this conversion website which might be of interest because the whole metric/imperial thing drives me insane:

http://www.sciencemadesimple.net/fuel_economy.php

[swng]

I have learned from somewhere, may be this board, about this site offering similar services:
http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportation/tools/fuel-trip-calculator/fuel-calculator-input.cfm?attr=16

[stuffy]

those are great tools for canadians because it seems most n american car info is in imperial, so it is nice to be able to compare

[why?]

I don't think there's much chance we'll ever see 50 cent gas again. Ever heard of Peak Oil?
http://www.energybulletin.net/primer.php

That's one of the main reasons I'm getting a Yaris. Even if gas goes up to $3 a litre, it'll still just cost my wife and I $24 in gas to get from our house to Toronto and back - same price that GO Transit is already charging for 2 return tickets!

I disagree with the ideas presented on the website.

Even the Russian scientist who came up with the idea that oil was a fossil fuel does not believe it anymore.

Basically, he now believes that oil is created as a byproduct of the Earth doing its thing.

I have all sorts of evidence type stuff at home. If I remember to I will post some of it.

This is a good starting page for the idea:
http://www.enviroliteracy.org/article.php/1130.html

[Funnypants]

I hope they're wrong too. I'd love it if the earth was filled with a creamy nougat of everlasting, self-replenishing oil. I really would!

But if oil is abiotic and fields are refilling, why did world production stop increasing in 2004? See:
http://www.theoildrum.com/storyonly/2006/3/1/3402/63420

Not trying to start a flame war, and I respect your opinion. Science is about lookng for truth, and theories like Peak Oil and Abiotic Oil will be proven/disproven over time.

I guess I'd rather prepare for the worst instead of just hoping for the best.

[why?]

The problem is people have been saying,"Why peak oil is probably about now." for the past 30 or so years. Even if we really are running out of oil, our scientists have absolutely no idea how much oil is left in the ground.

We know the Saudi's are blatantly lying about how much oil is in their fields, not to mention we are finding new oil fields all the time, then their is the fact that most of the US fields are capped, they are full of oil, but they are not being pumped, etc, etc,etc.

Even if you think "fossil fuels" are such, there is not 1 human being on this planet that accurately knows how much is left.

I believe conserving oil is a good thing for other reasons, but scientists simply have no idea what we have in the ground.

[foober]

The problem is people have been saying,"Why peak oil is probably about now." for the past 30 or so years. Even if we really are running out of oil, our scientists have absolutely no idea how much oil is left in the ground.

We know the Saudi's are blatantly lying about how much oil is in their fields, not to mention we are finding new oil fields all the time, then their is the fact that most of the US fields are capped, they are full of oil, but they are not being pumped, etc, etc,etc.

Even if you think "fossil fuels" are such, there is not 1 human being on this planet that accurately knows how much is left.

I believe conserving oil is a good thing for other reasons, but scientists simply have no idea what we have in the ground.

I read that the iraq war thing was becasue iraq under hussein was going to open the oil spickets and flood the international market with oil to make oil way to plentiful and alot cheaper. Which big buisness oil did not want.

Were gonna have oil for a while. But its how the big petrol companys want to deal it out is what will determine the cost. They could have gone to alternative fuels years ago. But if you want to control people its good to have a product that you can control how much is available.

[Adriaan]

Just came back from doing a long distance trip with my yaris when from the south shore of montreal filled the car to the max with 41 liters there and i was able to make it to mississauga just by sir winston churchill exit on one tank of gas. I had my girlfriend with me and about 2 hockey bags full of stuff to bring down about 45 kg each. i did about 560km which i think is good with all that weight and wind on the 401. When i filled the tank in mississauga it took about 39 liters .

[swng]

Just came back from doing a long distance trip with my yaris when from the south shore of montreal filled the car to the max with 41 liters there and i was able to make it to mississauga just by sir winston churchill exit on one tank of gas. I had my girlfriend with me and about 2 hockey bags full of stuff to bring down about 45 kg each. i did about 560km which i think is good with all that weight and wind on the 401. When i filled the tank in mississauga it took about 39 liters .

560 kms from 39 litres?
That is about 6.96 litres per 100 km, or
33.77 miles per US gallon, or
40.56 miles per Imp gallon, or
14.36 kms per litre
Very close to my numbers Adriaan. Quite respectable considering your load although there are people who have done better(in varied conditions). It is a manual, right? Please keep on posting your numbers. I guess even as good as they are, they will improve.

[NickNickNick]

I've now got about 5100km on my Yaris, mostly in the city now, and am still getting almost 800km per tank...20km/L on the highway. About 550-600 in the city.

[stuffy]

the tank i currently have in my car seems to really be going good, the weather has been a lot warmer so maybe this makes a big difference,

i've travelled about 250 km (all city) on the top two bars, although that top bar is probably worth more than itself.

i will post the mileage when i refill.

[wushumasterku]

for those in canada or care, i drove from toronto to montreal last weekend... 500 km on 28 liters. that's pretty good :) 95% highway.. started counting just outside of toronto past oshawa

*edit: i should also say that my average speed on highway was consistently 110km/h

[swng]

That is 50+ mpg(imp)! I think that reflects the fact that you drove 95% highway. Good numbers anyway!

[jcove]

I'm at a little over 6,000 kms since November and I'm getting roughly 600kms per tank of mixed highway and city driving. That's also driving kind of hard. I could get better if I didn't have a lead foot. :biggrin: I usually drive about 120 - 130 accross the 407. I have to say I still love this car!!

[swng]

For this tank, I have had a lot of city driving and have still achieved 146 km before losing my first fuel gauge bar and 222 km before losing the second.
I will be vacationing for about five weeks starting next week(Tue) and hence will most likely not be able to post. I hope fellow members can keep on posting their results on this thread. I am glad I have started it. Please help keep it alive!
Wish you all well!
Safe, happy and economical motoring!!!

[Ron]

i was getting roughly 500km on a 35L fill fairly consistantly during december to march. my last couple of tanks i have gotten about ~600km on 38-40L. i drive probably 80 percent in the city, 20 percent highway. odo is at 8500km's so far

[swng]

Thanks Ron. You get slightly more than 40.3 mpg(imp) or roughly 33.6 mpg(US). Your numbers are similar to mine. Considering that you have driven a lot in city traffic, the result is not bad. I guess yours is a standard shift, right?
I have just achieved 346 km with slightly more than half a tank(four fuel gauge bars remaining). A lot of city driving this time.
I will be travelling on Tue and this is going to be a five week vacation. So, I may not be able to post results any more for the time being. I estimate that by the time I come back, many fellow members should already have broken in their engines and many good numbers would probably have been reported here.

[Ron]

i am automatic baby! lazy man's dream

[mfpc]

Yello All Yarisians.

Tank 3, 545KM's - 38L fed to Mighty Yaris... Auto Trans, driving like I stole it, 80 city / 20 highway... rolling hills for terrain - ~60 KM/H, and 110+ KM/H typically. I had noticed about 1/2 in to this tank that my tires were 3-5 lbs low (eep!) the effects are in the numbers...

1st tank = 7.3L/100 KM's or 39 MPG
2nd Tank = 6.7L/100 KM or 42 MPG
3rd Tank = 6.9L/100 KM or 40.5 MPG

Cheers...

[Ziv]

good stuff. Thanks for posting.

here's mine
510km / 35Litre....

It's 102.5 this morning around GTA. For those of you live around GTA, always fill your gas after 10:30pm before 12:00am midnight. that's when the price drop all the way from 90.5~92.5 for last few days.

[shtanna]

Hello all. I just go mine on Saturday. So far on my first tank I've gotten 440Km, with 2 bars remaining. I think that's not too bad, considering I haven't broken her in. That's with 65/35 hwy/city driving. How far can I go on the last bar? Does it flash immediately?

[stuffy]

yeah, it flashes right away, but you still have about 5 to 7 litres of fuel left on that last bar, maybe more

ask swng how far you can go on that last bar, he would be able to tell you

[why?]

lol, of course he almost ran out too.

[Ziv]

yeah, i think swng is away tho, but I wouldn't go for more than 30~50 clicks when it start flashing.

[kumquat]

Hi everyone,

I just filled up with 38.5L after going through my first tank in 542km. So, I guess that would be about 7.1L/100km. Not too bad for the first tank, I don't think. I'd say I drove about 25% in town, 75% highway.

[Search]

I was very intrigued by the Yaris Hatch and really wished I could have waited to get a new car till it came out but my aging Civic had other plans. However on to the core point Fuel Mileage.

I now have an 06 Acura RSX –S Type which by now it has about 12,000. I like the car, but feel a bit unsettled by the fuel mileage, I feel like a glutton drinking all this gas driving a “sporty car” with a surfeit of horsepower.
However when I see people posting up mileage in the low 30’s I don’t feel so bad.

What happened to serious economy?

My old 93 Civic Si Hatch with over the course of 100,000+ Miles (94K-210K) would get 34 MPG day in and day out and I spanked her like the bad girl she was. Highway cruise speeds in the mid 80’s (that’s MPH not KPH), hell I have even seen high 30’s on extended cruise control highway trips.
I was hoping for easy 35 MPG+ from a Yaris. Not to lose horsepower and fit and finish (VS the old SI) and struggle to get the same MPG.

Just for comparison sake after I started monitoring this thread I decided to track my RSX’s “gluttonous” fuel use. I get a surprising 28MPG in 90% around town driving. Plenty of visits to the fun side of the tach with no effort to drive for mileage and quite frankly I am usually in a hurry and don’t waste time dawdling coming off of lights, and am bad about driving fast.
I took the RSX for a multi hundred mile delinquent run in the mountain spending extended time in the 6-8.5K coming off corners pretty hard and only dropped to 26 MPG.

That aside I am not happy getting sub 30MPG but to go to a Yaris and get only marginal economy improvements while taking a drastic hit on performance and vehicle dynamics quality just doesn’t make sense.

I am hoping when more Yaris are being driven in the US and we start to get reports on US mileage numbers then we can get a better picture of what the Yaris is really capable of
(this is not a slight on our northern neighbors, but I am unsure what sort of gas formulations they use compared to what I get down at the local jiffy mart fuel stop).

So fellow southerners please report in those economy numbers.

[foober]

All I know is the higher gas prices go the more unhappy some folks with lesser gas milage will be. Its getting pretty interesting at the gas pumps now listening to people complaining. THey think its bad now. Wait a couple months to a year. Gonna be very interesting.

[stuffy]

@ search,

i think what we are seeing here is reports on fuel economy from engines that aren't yet broken in,
i'm getting better and better mileage and my engine is now at 5500km (3400 miles),
up until last month, my average mileage (since the car was new) was 35 mpg, my current tank (which is not yet empty) will be giving approx. 43 mpg. i have travelled almost 700 km on 37-9L, not too shabby.

[ricko]

(To Search) I think before we can make any reasonable assessment of gas mileage we need to break the cars in. Most of the posts have been about brand new cars. In my experience my Acura 1.7 EL Premium got significantly
(5-6mpg Imp.) better mileage than my friends RSX (not a Type S), and my Yaris RS seems to be doing even better on the first tank. I fully expect to be getting 40+ MPG Imp. when my car is broken in. Besides ..... if I had an RSX Type S, gas mileage would be of less concern than speeding tickets. Truly a fine car.

[Search]

Yeah I am really hoping that once we start to see broken in motors and non winterized fuels we can get a better idea of what the Yaris will really get mileage wise.

I am hoping it is a car that can get mid 30’s with high 30’s on highway trips. That in my opinion would make it a really great car. (though I am really liking the seating/cargo flexibility of the Honda Fit. Too bad some one beat it senseless with an ugly stick)

If my Civic had lasted long enough I would be test driving the heck out of the Yaris right about now and holding off long enough to try a Fit also.
Though I enjoy the RSX I am not comfortable with the fact that it is the second car I have ever owned in 25+ years of driving that got less than 30MPG. I feel so gluttonous (I guess I am really not cut out for SUV ownership then, when people brag about getting 13MPG on the highway)

Anyone want to buy a nice tasteful magnesium metallic 06 RSX –S?

[stuffy]

i hadn't considered the possible impact of winterized fuels on fuel economy, my last couple of tanks have probably not been winter fuel (don't know for sure because i didnt' pay attention) and i have been getting much better mileage with them.

[NickNickNick]

On my last highway trip of 1100 kms, I averaged about 710km/tank...which is down from about 800km/ tank. I do need an oil change however (6800km) and my PSI was down to 28 after the trip...these two things are the most crucial in great fuel economy...always check your tires before, during, and after long road trips!

[shtanna]

So I finally filled up. The last bar was flashing. I filled 38.8 Litres, with my trip reading at 521KM. If it only gets better from here, I'm very, very happy!

[ricko]

I got 6.7L/100km on my first tank. No highway driving, no big city driving ......... just bootin' around my small resort town, and out in the country.

[GabL]

Interesting article from Toronto Star:

Are premium fuels really worth the price?
Most cars designed to run on regular gas

It's best to use the type your manual advises
Apr. 15, 2006. 01:00 AM
PAUL STERN


When you put gas in your car, do you buy regular or premium?

Some motorists are quite particular about the blend of gas they buy, while others don't care as long as their vehicles start and go.

I am frequently asked my opinion about gas — especially as fuel prices rise.

In my experience, most car owners aren't too interested in knowing the difference between high-octane and low-octane gas.

Nor are they interested in knowing the structural properties of gas or the processes that are involved in converting crude oil into gas.

What motorists are most concerned about is price. I know customers who are obsessed with the price of gas and will drive across the city and line up, to save 10 cents per litre. Can you blame them?

Sometimes a major news story will prompt consumers to change their gas buying habits on a whim. For instance, after gas prices spiked last fall, many consumers who had been buying premium gas switched to regular or mid-grade.

Currently, there are four different grades of gas available in Ontario — 87 octane, 89 octane, 91 octane and 94 octane. For marketing purposes, different companies have different names for each of these blends. However, based on these octane levels, the products are comparable.

Proponents of premium gas will advise motorists to use a premium or mid-grade blend because they contain higher octane. They will argue that premium and mid-grade blends deliver more cleaning additives than lower, regular blends.

The truth is that all regular gasoline sold in Canada contains elements of "cleaning additives" to guard against engine build-up in the injectors and valves.

You may wonder why two identical cars — same manufacturer, same model year — occasionally deliver different responses using the same type of gas.

There are several possible explanations. Engine A might perform better because it has fewer kilometres than engine B, or because it has received better maintenance over its lifetime. High kilometres and poor vehicle maintenance could result in deposits forming in the engine, causing gas to burn less efficiently.

In this case, using premium gas with higher octane may eliminate any pinging in the engine, but there is no guarantee.

If you hear a pinging noise in your engine and it persists after changing blends or brands, then speak to your service adviser at your dealership. The wrong type of gas could, theoretically, cause your car's engine to underperform and it could even cause long-term damage to your engine.

Don't forget that today's engines are quite sophisticated and attention should be given to what is recommended by the manufacturers.

There are other factors that will have an effect on gas consumption, such as accelerating too fast, low tire pressure, outside temperature and wind levels, to mention a few.

According to Petro-Canada, "There is generally only a small difference in gas mileage, about 2 per cent, between premium and regular gasoline. This difference tends to favour premium gasoline."

Most passenger cars in Canada are designed to run on regular gas. The engines in these cars compress the gas-air mixture at a lower rate than the high-performance engines. Therefore, it is not necessary to fill your tank with premium when it's not recommended.

Do all oil companies refine gas in the same way? No. Oil companies extract oil from different sources, and the process involved in refining that oil differs from refinery to refinery.

That's why gas from one company may perform differently in your engine than gas from a competitor across the street. If you find that your vehicle performs better using one brand of gas over another, stick to it.

Let's analyze the price difference between blends and see how much consumers could save.

According to the Ontario Ministry of Energy website, the average prices of a litre of gas in Toronto during the first quarter of 2006 were: regular, 91 cents; mid-grade, 96.7 cents; and premium, $102.6. (It's often been a little higher lately.)

We'll use these average prices with the example of a 2006 Honda Accord mid-size sedan. The fuel tank capacity on this car is 64.7 litres. If you gassed up with regular once a week, you would pay $58.87 per fill-up; with premium gas, that same fill-up would cost you $65.99. The difference is $7.12.

A savings of $7.12 per fill-up, extended over an entire year, would save you $370. This is money that stays in your pocket and it could be used for any number of things. There would be no difference to your engine performance or to the wear and tear on your vehicle.

The best advice for drivers is to use the type of gas recommended in your owner's manual. Most people don't bother to read their manuals, but they should. If a certain blend of gas is recommended, then stick to that blend unless your service department advises you otherwise.

If you drive a sports car or luxury brand, that's a different story. Your owner's manual will probably advise you to use only premium gasoline. With luxury brand engines, switching from premium to regular could negatively affect your engine's performance and cause damage to your engine. It could also void part of your warranty.

The same conditions apply to drivers of leased luxury brands. If the leased vehicle requires premium gasoline, you are obligated to use premium only.

Here's a final piece of advice to keep in mind when buying fuel. If you drive a car with a diesel engine, then never put gasoline in the tank. Conversely, on regular engine cars, never put diesel oil in the tank. In fact, a diesel nozzle is usually too big to fit in a gasoline filler neck.

These points may seem obvious, but from time to time I hear about consumers putting the wrong kind of fuel in their vehicles and the outcome is never pleasant.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Paul Stern, president of the Toronto Automobile Dealers Association, is a new-car dealer in Toronto. This column represents the views of TADA. Email: president @ tada.ca or visit http://www.tada.ca.

[Ziv]

Sweet article Gabl! Just a reminder, Our Yaris's manual said recommend 87 regular!

Latest number 80 city/ 15 hwy. 485 clicks / 36 Litre.

[why?]

Interesting article, but it didn't exactly cover anything new. Something the person prolly wrote in 5 minutes.

The big question to me is can the extra gas mileage you get with premium cover the extra cost of that fuel.

[GabL]

Interesting article, but it didn't exactly cover anything new. Something the person prolly wrote in 5 minutes.

The big question to me is can the extra gas mileage you get with premium cover the extra cost of that fuel.

Quote from the article: "According to Petro-Canada, "There is generally only a small difference in gas mileage, about 2 per cent, between premium and regular gasoline. This difference tends to favour premium gasoline.""

And the price difference of 87 and 91 for Sunoco is 11.6% (94.5 VS 105.5 per litre as I fuelled up last night). So you can do the math to see if 11.6% of extra cost giving you 2% more mileage is acceptable for you or not.

[GabL]

Sweet article Gabl! Just a reminder, Our Yaris's manual said recommend 87 regular!

Latest number 80 city/ 15 hwy. 485 clicks / 36 Litre.

How many bars left when you click 485? My gf got 495 clicks when the last bar starts to blink, dunno how many litre she filled in, will check the receipt later.

Just want to know roughly where am I at. I know the bars are not accurate indicators! haha

[Ziv]

Yeah, like I mentioned a thousand times, DO NOT TRUST THE FUEL GAGUE. Only use it as a reference. After 485 clicks, I still have 2 bar left, maybe roughly a bar and a half. I use a bar / 5 Litre as my guide.

[why?]

Quote from the article: "According to Petro-Canada, "There is generally only a small difference in gas mileage, about 2 per cent, between premium and regular gasoline. This difference tends to favour premium gasoline.""

And the price difference of 87 and 91 for Sunoco is 11.6% (94.5 VS 105.5 per litre as I fuelled up last night). So you can do the math to see if 11.6% of extra cost giving you 2% more mileage is acceptable for you or not.

LOL, I missed that first part. At best, 2% better might equal 41 mpg instead of 40.

I need to change it all into numbers I can get.

Prices around here seem to start at about 2.72 per gallon. That means super will be 2.92 per gallon.
So you get 11 extra miles for $2.20.

2.20 is 80% of a gallon of regular gas which would get 40 mpg. So just by those numbers it would not be worth it.

[johnny]

My Diesel Yaris has 1500 km on it and I got 660km using 37,3 L of Diesel fuel with a regular driving style. This is nerly all city driving (80%C/20%H) in cold weather -3 to +5 Celsius.
According to Toyota the Yaris D4D should be able to get up 940 km to the tank. So I look forward to when my Yaris will be completely broken in and some warmer weather to see what kind of economy figures I will be getting.

[stuffy]

wow, that is incredible, now why won't they bring that engine to us?

[jay]

Back again with some more data :smile:

My observed fuel economy continues to improve. If I were to guess, I'd say the change to warmer spring temps have been a significant factor (nothing else has really changed).

I now have 7600km on the clock, and the results from last 4 tanks (going back to the 1st wk of March, all on 10% ethanol):

7.04L/100km - 70 hwy/30 city
6.73L/100km - 70 hwy/30 city
6.76L/100km - 55 hwy/45 city
6.36L/100km - 70 hwy/30 city (today's fill up)

To put this into context, my avg over the winter was ~7.1L/100km. I was especially surprised w/today's fill up number, since that's within a few % of the spec sheet numbers, when you bother to carry out the (admittedly estimated) calc. Anyhow, it'll be interesting to see if others have experienced a similar trend.

[why?]

wow, that is incredible, now why won't they bring that engine to us?

Does Canada have the low sulfur gas they use in Europe?

I know the USA doesn't.

Our gas would destroy that engine in short order.

[Idjiit]

I got about 35MPG on my first tank, fwiw.

[stuffy]

Does Canada have the low sulfur gas they use in Europe?

I know the USA doesn't.

Our gas would destroy that engine in short order.


not sure, but i would assume we have the same diesel fuel as the u.s

[Freedom]

Finally, I got my new car on Friday last week, but I didn't drive it too much. Till now I drove about 360kms, and the result is 17.14 km/litre, 48.45 mpg, 5.83 l/100 km. So I think this is :w00t:
And hope, it will be even better after a few 100 kms.

wow i expected alot more if it is only that much mpg (32ish american mpg) ill start heading back to the xb... by the way what rpms are you revving when your at 80 mph

Although I use it carefully, I tried to go a little bit faster, than allowed. :smile:
62mph-->3000rmp
80mph-->3800rmp (by the way, its a bit loudy at this speed, but not annoying, rather sporty)

[redbluff]

First tank on my LB was 37 mpg with some highway driving. Second tank was 35.2. I has 800 miles on it. I have been driving very conservative. I am please so far.

[Idjiit]

FWIW, that 35MPG is with fairly aggressive driving. Breakin-in, smake-in.

[D.A.L]

Hey all. I got the car Feb 1/06. 2006 Yaris 5 door LE, auto. $21,000 all up - out the door, full tank. I have excluded the dealer fillup. I live in Toronto and 80 -90% of the driving was highway with a few trafic jams here and there.
Tank 1) 521km @ 38l = 7.29l/100 = u.s 32.27 or 38.75 imp mpg 2)560km @ 39.2l = 7.0l/100 = us33.6 or 40.35 imp mpg 3) 528 @ 38.8l = 7.34l/100 = us 32.05 or 38.49 imp mpg 4) 590 @ 39.3l =6.66l/100 = us35.21 or 38.75 imp mpg 5) 598km @ 39.47l = 6.68 l/100 = us 35.21 or 42.29 imp mpg 6) 594 km @ 39.5 = 7.29l/100 = us 32.27 or 38.75 ipm mpg 7) 642km @ 40.66l = 6.33l/100 = us 37.16 or 44.63 imp mpg 8) 773km @ 48.08l = 6.21l/100 = us 37.88 or 45.49 imp mpg 9) 330km @ 21.67l = 6.56l/100 = us 35.86 or 43.06 ipm mpg.
The car has about 6000km on it now. I drove very conservatively. Feb-march temperatures were around -4 deg Celsius.
Tire pressure was at 40 lbs. I got about 70-80km/bar average. I drove it to the flashing bar. I have never filled up past the 40l mark yet. For my long trips I would fill maybe 10l then add it to my total at the next fill up. COMMENTS ON THE CAR: Good points - considered a green car re: emissions, lots of interior room, decent sound system, great hp even when passing on the highway, decent mileage, fairly quiet on the highway, good fit and finish, nice control layout. Bad points: buffeting makes rear windows basically useless above 70kpm, 1st gear is way to low especially in city traffic re; it changes from 1st to 2nd then back down way to many times, OD gear on highway is way to low re: at 100kph your driving at 3000 rpm which creates way to much engine breaking when you let off the gas - even when going down hill which means you can't let off the gas going down a big hill without slowing down,
Harmonic engine vibration at 100kph (I’m going to get that checked), the black material used for the dash and door panels marks or scuffs way to easy and is hard to wipe down with anything but a damp cloth, needs cruise control, wipper motors, front and rear, are way to noisy, headlights should come ON AND OFF with the engine (it is 2006!). My expectations for this car are 1) great gas mileage as advertised, very low emissions as advertised, longevity because it's a Toyota. If you want to do your own mpg or l/100k conversions just google - fuel conversions or miles per gallon conversion- and you should hit a few sites with automatic conversion tables. For l/100k just divide you total km's by 100 then divide your total lters used by that number. ie. 592 km @ 38.5 lters = 38.5/5.92 = 6.5 l/100km. Thanks, bye for now, Don

[Ron]

Don, how in blazes did you manage to jam 48L into a fill? Must have been running it on fumes for the last 50km's!! It's a 42L tank, but taking into account the volume in the filler neck and the charcoal canister, you can probably put in a couple liters extra. but 6L!!

[Ziv]

Don, how in blazes did you manage to jam 48L into a fill? Must have been running it on fumes for the last 50km's!! It's a 42L tank, but taking into account the volume in the filler neck and the charcoal canister, you can probably put in a couple liters extra. but 6L!!

No kidding. And Don, Thanks for the post!

My latest. again, mostly city -- 85%/15% cities/hwy.
37Litre / 480 clicks.
It should gets better soon, hopefully.

[ricko]

I don't think Don actually got 48L into the tank. He said that if he short-filled (less than a fill-up), he just added that total to his next fill-up. For example 10L + 38L = 48L ......... the only people that could get 48L into a 40L gas tank are the NASCAR boys.

[ricko]

2nd tank ........... 6.3L/100km. Mostly paved county roads, and a run to Brampton and back on Airport Road.

[Ziv]

How fast do you drive on those county roads? 110 ~ 130 km/h?

[Ziv]

Oh yeah, now we should have more inputs that we have more and more members.

23 Litres/ 360 Clicks. The warmer the better, huh.

[foober]

I'm getting around 38 miles to the U.S. gallon. Half city half highway. I've only put on 550 miles on the car so far though.

[ricko]

Not quite that fast Ziv. Lots of speed traps up here, trying to make some $$$$ off the rich cats from Toronto. Usually I try to keep it under 120 kph. Going fast in a straight line is boring anyway (unless it's over 160), sweeping curves at 100+ is where it's at.

[Ziv]

well actually I got my Yaris going 160 km/h + on the 404 the other day. It's more stable then I thought it would be.