Fuel Economy

[Hershey]

'08 sedan w/ 4 speed auto : 38.82 m.p.g. with BJs 87 w/E10

Eco: 39.3 ( set @ 96 )
Cal : 38.82 ( 376.2 mis. / 9.69 gals. )

Refill of Mobil 89 w/E10 at 1 click . 1 blinking bar just before the fill . Plan to reset E.M. to 95 at next fill and leave it at that . Tired of f*rting around with it .

[NZ-FE Vios]

5speed, Sedan

Last tank was near all city, 336miles on 10.3gallons which is 32.62mpg.

[bzinn 1]

with HKS filter,Injen intake,DC header,Nitto midpipe and GReddy can,automatic with 15"proxeys still gettign 35-37.....only one tank have I broke 40 and that was durning summer before all the mods and mainly highway

[Hershey]

'08 base model Yaris sedan with 4 speed auto : 37.627 m.p.g. with MOBIL 89 w/E10

Eco-Meter : 38.2 ( reset to 96 )
Calculated : 37.627 ( 351.7 mis. / 9.347 gals. )

Yesterday did fill of Valero 87 /E10 at 1 click .

[Hershey]

'08 Yaris sedan w/ 4 speed auto : 42.916 using Valero 87 w/E10

Eco-Meter : 43 ( set @ 96 )
Calculated : 42.916 ( 164.2 mis. / 3.826 gals. )

Refill of Valero 87 w/E10 at 1 click . 2 people for whole tank . Temp of 42+ and winds of 15+ m.p.h.. Many hills as well . 4 Bridgestone Blizzak WS 70s' at 35.5 p.s.i. and using Shell synthetic 5w-20 ( SN ) . Was getting 45.3 when arrived at pet store . So , likely 44.7 or so since the calculated milage is usually less .

Pics of Eco at pet store and during the fill before going home :

[Nanook]

2011 3dr 5spd (stock), 13,000+ miles

Best 41.02mpg
Avg 37.63mpg
Worst 35.12mpg

I have only reached over 40mpg's twice. My best tank was this last tank. Two tanks ago, halfway through I decided to try and get over 40mpg's. I did! The next tank (second to last measured tank) I tried to get over 40mpg's over the whole tank, I fell short 39.something. So this last tank I decided that coasting, slowly starting (rpm's under 2,500), and utilizing the DFCO function was too boring. So more than a few times I went through first and second gear just shy of 6,000 rpms (it is just more fun). I was just hoping to get above 35mpg's and wouldn't you know it, I got my best mpg's to date. I did drive conservatively occasionally during this tank, so it wasn't like I was always zipping around.

[KentSzabo]

Two fill ups ago I had the first oil change and had them put synthetic 0-20 in my 2012 Yaris 5 speed. Since then on the past two tankfuls I got 43.4 and 43.2 MPG.
In addition to synthetic oil I run 40 lbs of pressure in the tires.

[Hershey]

Nice :thumbsup: . What brand oil is it ? How about an used oil analysis of the 0w-20 and post it :wink: .

[Hershey]

'08 base sedan w/ 4 speed auto : 35.75

Eco-Meter : 37 ( set @ 96 )
Calculated : 35.75 ( 272.2 mis. / 7.613 gals. )

Refill of Sunoco 87 e10 @ 1 click of nozzle . Temps have dropped into the teens and single digits .

[Hershey]

'08 base model sedan w/ 4 speed auto : 33.60 m.p.g. w/ Sunoco 87 ( e10 )

Eco-Meter : 34.5
Calculated : 33.60 ( 197.6 mis. / 5.88 gals. )

4th bar lost not long before fill . Average temp of 20 . Lot more cold idling thanks to heavy frost and single digits .

[Spidermandud]

Over Winter break I found that the best way to get incredible gas mileage in a yaris is to go to florida, haha. I was doing high 40's or so mpg. The ultralight wheels garm sold me help; but I guess just getting out of tennessee and driving like a granny helps. Anyone wanna volunteer to go to florida and see?

[why?]

I got 38 or so mpg when I lived in florida.

[victorddr]

I am in Toronto Canada,

In Winter, I got about 560Km per tank (About 38.5L gas)
In Summer, I usually get about 600Km per tank

3dr, manual Transmission.

[randeez]

I got 38 or so mpg when I lived in florida.

this is right about where ultragauge and calculated puts me (in south florida) effortlessly. i get bored trying to max mpg out :iono: .

i can tuck in behind a semi and ultra gauge will be showing mpg up into the high 50s/low 60s mpg at 75-80mph. and then usually i kill it in town driving

[daf62757]

this is right about where ultragauge and calculated puts me (in south florida) effortlessly. i get bored trying to max mpg out :iono: .

i can tuck in behind a semi and ultra gauge will be showing mpg up into the high 50s/low 60s mpg at 75-80mph. and then usually i kill it in town driving

After almost 3 and a half years, I get an average of around 37 to 39 MPG. I have tried everything to get it higher but I use my cruise control on trips and I refuse to draft large semis.

[DMZ]

Trip to the grocery store today. 24 miles round trip on a State Route 55 mph, (I normally do 58). 4 miles are in town 30 mph.

ScanGauge said 40.39 mpg.

[daf62757]

I just drove cross country from Indy to DC. I almost squeezed 40 mpg (39.6). I averaged 65 MPH the whole way. In West Virgina, Pennsylvania, and Maryland there are some pretty good downhill grades and I thought that would push me over the 40 mark, but as most of you know, you have to go up the other side of the mountain and that eats the gas. Overall, not bad for such a hilly trip. On the way back I am going to drive 70 and see if that effects the mileage too much.

[jay cobbs]

'08 base sedan w/ 4 speed auto : 35.75

Eco-Meter : 37 ( set @ 96 )
Calculated : 35.75 ( 272.2 mis. / 7.613 gals. )

Refill of Sunoco 87 e10 @ 1 click of nozzle . Temps have dropped into the teens and single digits .

2010 sedan stock model with 4 speed Auto with overdrive awesome transmission . fun and very perky. Started in union city california loaded with 600lbs of passengers fully loaded camping gear tents 2 lull coolers chse lounge fold up 3chairs 3 caes of drinks and food for all 3 days worth. Tre pressure at 37 not at sidewall 52 max psi full tank of 11 gallons of arco 87 grade. no mods no hypemilling wife drove and doesnt belive in that stuff. cool temps and uphill all the way on to donner pass :eek:elevation 6845 ft above sea level !!! still plenty of power very suprised. purred down the mt hills in third at 45 mph very nice and smooth trans and we went 100 miles of city and backroad driving to camp sites around the tahoe lake twice and into every nook and crany even when to carson city all mt. driving and 45MPG my wallet loves TOYOTA . NO :rolleyes:hypermiling tricks and with full size spare tire to boot . miles 320 :biggrin: gas fill up at tahoe 7.2 gallons on arco gas! 45 mpg and the worst driving possible 75-80 up to the big passes and 65mph up the passes and into tahoe!! most of us had to p :redface:by then made 3 stops on the way for fast food but no :smile: gas. Take that Prius LOVERS!!! Im new to the forum but had to tell someone. and I cant figure out how to post a separate post in here but wanted to let you know that the yaris sedan is awsome:bow:...forget PRIUS and the 55 on the frwy crap....:thumbdown:

[Hershey]

:w00t:

[Hershey]

Did a fill earlier . Calculated : 41.82 ( 266.4 mis. / 6.37 gals. @ 1 click ) . Hopefully it pumped enough to fill the tank . Showed full . Time will well , if not still likely be over 41 m.p.g.. Continental w/ Eco Plus tires at 36 . About 30% city and the 2 of us for over 1/2 the miles .

[edmscan]

I just got 615 km/tank and a 36.502 litre fill. This works out to: 47.59 MPG (Imperial) or 39.63 MPG (US). I am quite happy about it as I wanted to break 600 km. I gassed up shortly after the gas gauge started blinking.

I am running my tires at 40 psi .. and this tank was probably about 200 - 250 km highway driving.

[Hershey]

Keep it a goin' :headbang: .

[nookandcrannycar]

Over Winter break I found that the best way to get incredible gas mileage in a yaris is to go to florida, haha. I was doing high 40's or so mpg. The ultralight wheels garm sold me help; but I guess just getting out of tennessee and driving like a granny helps. Anyone wanna volunteer to go to florida and see?

Here in SE Texas the climate is Sub-Tropical (as most of Florida is) and I don't really notice a dip in MPG during the Winter. Among the 'Lower 48' (I haven't driven in AK nor HI) I think the craziest drivers are in AZ, CA, FL, IL, MI, NV, TN, TX, and in DC/+the DC Beltway parts of MD and VA. Among these crazy spots, the craziest drivers (by far, in my opinion) are in the southern half of the Florida mainland. Crazy = lack of skill, lack of safety and safety+courtesy, and sometimes malicious intent.

[why?]

Here in SE Texas the climate is Sub-Tropical (as most of Florida is) and I don't really notice a dip in MPG during the Winter. Among the 'Lower 48' (I haven't driven in AK nor HI) I think the craziest drivers are in AZ, CA, FL, IL, MI, NV, TN, TX, and in DC/+the DC Beltway parts of MD and VA. Among these crazy spots, the craziest drivers (by far, in my opinion) are in the southern half of the Florida mainland. Crazy = lack of skill, lack of safety and safety+courtesy, and sometimes malicious intent.

For quite a while Florida would trade you a Florida license for a drivers license from any country, so a lot of people with no real experience driving in traffic easily got a license. Or people from countries who totally ignored all traffic lights and signs could get one easily as well.

But Florida driving was easy. People were courteous and always would let me in if I turned on my blinker. Now driving in and around Boston is crazy. Probably the closest thing to demolition derby with no one really wanting an accident you can get. Always cut off the expensive cars, because they will stop.

Funny thing is I never kept track of my gas mileage while I was in Florida. Well I guess I still don't, just quickly do the math at the pump.

[edmscan]

Always cut off the expensive cars, because they will stop.

I just about got taken out (he tried to prevent me from changing lanes) the other day ... all because my Yaris wasn't fast enough for Mr Road Rage.

All I had to say was .. "Watch me pass the gas station in my little Yaris". So there Mr Hot Shot ... some people just never learn.

[why?]

I just about got taken out (he tried to prevent me from changing lanes) the other day ... all because my Yaris wasn't fast enough for Mr Road Rage.

All I had to say was .. "Watch me pass the gas station in my little Yaris". So there Mr Hot Shot ... some people just never learn.

i avoid all that, i tend to be the one on the far right going slower than the entire road.

[Chuck G]

i avoid all that, i tend to be the one on the far right going slower than the entire road.

Me too!!
Life's too short.

[edmscan]

I try to stay in the right lane most of the time ... but this time I had to turn left and this loser was trying to accelerate to prevent me from changing lanes. But ha ha .. the yaris can go if it wants to. But I do agree .. it is best just trying to ignore those losers. Of course he had to honk at me as he went by ...

On a better note ... I have been able to get somewhat better gas mileage as of late. Probably another 10 days or so to see if my efforts are paying off.

[nookandcrannycar]

Me too!!
Life's too short.

Me too....and I definitely get better gas mileage by doing so.

[nookandcrannycar]

I try to stay in the right lane most of the time ... but this time I had to turn left and this loser was trying to accelerate to prevent me from changing lanes. But ha ha .. the yaris can go if it wants to. But I do agree .. it is best just trying to ignore those losers. Of course he had to honk at me as he went by ...

On a better note ... I have been able to get somewhat better gas mileage as of late. Probably another 10 days or so to see if my efforts are paying off.

I have driven quite a few miles in my life and only once had 'my feathers ruffled'/was really upset by anything. Usually if someone cuts me off it is a 'weaving in and out idiot' who is only cutting it a slight bit close or a 'didn't prepare properly but now I have to cut over to the closely upcoming exit (because my time is so valuable) cutting multiple people off idiot', or finally a large vehicle (non commercial) whose driver isn't looking properly or at all. Around half the time with the latter, the person is embarrassed and slows down to change lanes behind you. The other half of the time the person is being insensitive or slightly aggressive and completes the lane change, but it isn't so blatant as to nearly cause an accident. The one time that was different for me happened a couple of months ago. I was driving south on I-75 between Bradenton, FL and Naples, FL. I was in the slow lane and a Suburban abruptly started to cut me off. I honked, and instead of backing off he forced me off onto the shoulder. I attempted to catch up to him to give him the bird , but was unable to because another car sped up to prevent me from changing lanes...and it was a conservative sedan being driven by a nondescript young girl with a conservative haircut. Edmscan's experience made me think of this incident. I soon realized that this conservative girl with a lead foot was a blessing in disguise. What if the idiot in the Suburban had had a gun? Later in this same trip I was driving from Kissimmee to Naples via the old interior route (Highway 17 -- Winter Haven to SR 80 near Fort Myers) and was coming around a sweeping corner on a 1 lane in each direction stretch with a lot of traffic going North and a lot less going South. As I finished the curve I could finally see in front of me on a long straightaway. A Mini Cooper was attempting to pass about 10 cars, wasn't going to quite make it and was coming at me head on at what I would guess was 80+. My life flashed before me. Because of the angle of the bend of the curve and the amount of traffic coming from his direction nether of us could see the other coming....but he had run out of broken line on the pavement in his direction and shouldn't have attempted the pass in the first place. I already could tell (by observation just minutes before this) that the shoulder was less than a car length wide. What came next was fortunately the best piece of defensive driving I have ever mustered. I instinctively adjusted the wheel to navigate as close to the outer edge of the shoulder as possible and sat on my horn. The remaining drivers that the Mini Cooper hadn't passed were extremely alert and happened to do the same thing I did at just the right moment and the Mini Cooper squeezed between me and these 'remaining to be passed' drivers while stradling the painted double line in the middle of the road. While in Miami during this trip I saw an alarming number of drivers driving South on Biscayne Blvd and floating out of their lanes as if DUI. When I passed each one and looked over, each one was NOT LOOKING AT THE ROAD AT ALL with head looking down riveted toward his/her phone, texting away (no specific laws against this, to my understanding, in Florida). Some of these texters were young, and some were old. These three scenarios, all on different roads in different parts of the southern half of the Florida mainland have cemented (along with previously more benign experiences) my SMH when it comes to many of the drivers in that area.

[Nigel8600]

My new summer car is a mint 06 civic ex manual with only 42000KM, I can usually get 6.2L/100KM in that thing and I just bought my 08 yaris for a winter car to replace a wrecked dodge sx I had for last winter. I must admit I was pretty happy with my first fill in the yaris.

471KM/24.84L fill right to the gas cap lol. About 10% highway driving. I'm a courier in the city.

[MyzticZ3r0]

I finally got up in the high 30's last week, my average was 39.85mpg, but only for a little over three gallons. I wish I took a photo of the receipt before shredding it, but next time! I've changed my driving habit to driving ~62mph on the highway and driving about ~45-50mph local. I accelerate slower and when coming to a red light, I let off the gas and let the inertia do most of the work. I'm greatly satisfied with the results! My lead foot is slowly letting off... =D

[nookandcrannycar]

I tried to start a new thread for this, but kept getting an error message.

http://jalopnik.com/the-887-hp-porsche-918-spyder-will-get-85-to-94-mpg-1279805586


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_918

[nookandcrannycar]

^^^^^ Bump (post #2041) Anyone?

[why?]

haven't seen anything about it yet. I know it's been fully tested on the Nürburgring, but haven't heard anything about deliveries.

[nookandcrannycar]

haven't seen anything about it yet. I know it's been fully tested on the Nürburgring, but haven't heard anything about deliveries.

:thumbsup:, and thanks for the reply.

[Idahotom]

Almost all cars will be able to adjust for higher octane gasoline, so their will be some benefit.

If one wants to waste their money on premium fuel for an engine it is not needed for, thinking they are getting "extra power", I don't have a problem with that. I'll continue to use regular.

[roxy1]

just took a trip to Indy and back today. 426 miles/9.42 gallons used=45.22 mpg. this was about 5% true city, 70% highway at 60-68 mph, and 25% rural roads at 40-55 mph. 2014 5 speed manual.

87 octane (with ethanol, of course). we are still using winter blend gas here, and it was in the upper 20's to upper 30's during the trip temperature wise(early morning trip).

im happy with that, but not surprised, as I keep pretty good mileage records and this is not out of the ordinary for such a trip. I have never seen any mpg advantage with higher octane and with the yaris don't see any performance advantages. so, imo, higher octane is a flat out waste of money.

[why?]

If one wants to waste their money on premium fuel for an engine it is not needed for, thinking they are getting "extra power", I don't have a problem with that. I'll continue to use regular.

Funny how all the epa tests and all mpg tests are done with 93 octane. I wonder why. How many centuries old is that quote? Or are you too scared to admit that?

[Rigaud]

Been 2-1/2 months now I have my 2009 Yaris, quite impressed with it so far. Been using it for ski trips to do Alpine Touring so I have had a roof rack with skis and sometimes even a pulk sled on the roof. My worse was 8.8L/100km on a 2,000km trip and recently my best was 6.6L/100km with no roof rack. Winter tires, cold air, some snow at times on the roads and good cross winds make it for the worse conditions to get good economy. On a short 320km trip this winter I did manage to get 5.6L/100km. With warmer weather, summer wheels on I'm quite confident I'll hit 5L.

[roxy1]

Funny how all the epa tests and all mpg tests are done with 93 octane. I wonder why. How many centuries old is that quote? Or are you too scared to admit that?

my brother in law sets up some of the testing for FCA (ie Fiat/Chrysler). they do that because 93 octane is commonly the gas available to them that is ethanol free. the ethanol free gas gives the best fuel efficiency. it has NOTHING to do with the higher octane.

[why?]

my brother in law sets up some of the testing for FCA (ie Fiat/Chrysler). they do that because 93 octane is commonly the gas available to them that is ethanol free. the ethanol free gas gives the best fuel efficiency. it has NOTHING to do with the higher octane.

believe that if you want, but it simply is not true. That excuse doesn't work when you realize they have always used 93.

[dj92]

Some time ago, I tried 98 fuel (was just 3% more expensive than the standard 95 (lowest we get here)).
Guess what?
I felt no difference, the mileage remained the same, too.

[YHWilliam09]

Some time ago, I tried 98 fuel (was just 3% more expensive than the standard 95 (lowest we get here)).
Guess what?
I felt no difference, the mileage remained the same, too.

I don't know what's actually better, but you can't always feel a difference even when there could be one. It could be a subtle difference, and subtle differences have positive impacts in the long run, not to mention a lot of subtle differences add up to a big difference. To really know the difference though, you'd have to do actual testing with a good sample size and accurately recorded numbers. This will tell you the real difference despite what you might feel or not feel.

[why?]

Some time ago, I tried 98 fuel (was just 3% more expensive than the standard 95 (lowest we get here)).
Guess what?
I felt no difference, the mileage remained the same, too.

honestly, unless you run it on a dyno constantly there is not going to be any difference you can actually feel, and gas mileage changes so much for every degree of temperature, every time the wind blows, etc, that seeing a difference in gas mileage will be hard outside of a lab, which uses computers to drive the car over a pre-programmed course.

Especially with a near stock Yaris. Now add a turbo and a tuner and that is an entire different story.

The only thing I do is try to use different types of fuels because different gas companies use different additives, and those theoretically might help extend and make the engine more healthy. I have no idea if it is true or not, but it does not hurt my mileage.

Unless you are testing something with instruments, higher octane gas for our near stock Yaris is kind of silly.

[roxy1]

believe that if you want, but it simply is not true. That excuse doesn't work when you realize they have always used 93.

that is also not true. they commonly used 87 octane on many cars before there was ethanol in it.

[why?]

that is also not true. they commonly used 87 octane on many cars before there was ethanol in it.

sure they did. I remember reading that on all the car ads, oh wait, no I don't. every single one made sure you knew it was always 93.

[roxy1]

sure they did. I remember reading that on all the car ads, oh wait, no I don't. every single one made sure you knew it was always 93.

starting in 2004, the EPA started using indolene across the board, a standardized test gasoline free of additives. it has a MON of 87 and RON of 96.5, thus yielding a pump octane of 91.5. before 2004 they used a variety of octanes, depending on what a given car was designed to run on.

using an ethanol free/additive free test gasoline give the best possible mpg numbers. the higher octane itself does squat for mpg numbers.

if I fill up with an ethanol free gasoline I will immediately realize a 7%-10& increase in fuel economy for that tank. my records over the last 15 years also tell me filling up with a higher octane fuel that has ethanol gains me absolutely no measurable fuel efficiency gain over 87 octane.

[why?]

starting in 2004, the EPA started using indolene across the board, a standardized test gasoline free of additives. it has a MON of 87 and RON of 96.5, thus yielding a pump octane of 91.5. before 2004 they used a variety of octanes, depending on what a given car was designed to run on.

using an ethanol free/additive free test gasoline give the best possible mpg numbers. the higher octane itself does squat for mpg numbers.

if I fill up with an ethanol free gasoline I will immediately realize a 7%-10& increase in fuel economy for that tank. my records over the last 15 years also tell me filling up with a higher octane fuel that has ethanol gains me absolutely no measurable fuel efficiency gain over 87 octane.

of course using an ethanol free gas is better. Try finding a station that has that though. I never argued using higher octane would give anyone any gains. I actually know how cars work. Modern cars do not have the ability to adjust enough stock for any higher octane.

Look, the EPA itself doesn't actually do any testing, the manufacturers do. The EPA just writes how the testing has to be done. And we all know the test itself is total bs. IF this was not the case we would not have a rash of automakers being sued over gas mileage figures, we would have a rash of lawsuits involving the EPA, because the test is totally bogus and does not apply to the real world in any way.

[dragoonmc]

There is a reason that all of those numbers are followed up by "EPA estimated mileage" because the manufacturers know that it is extremely dependent on fuel as well as a host of other variables. EPA tests are very tightly controlled so you can have a level playing field on those numbers as well as the emissions have to be within the allowable regulations.

[why?]

There is a reason that all of those numbers are followed up by "EPA estimated mileage" because the manufacturers know that it is extremely dependent on fuel as well as a host of other variables. EPA tests are very tightly controlled so you can have a level playing field on those numbers as well as the emissions have to be within the allowable regulations.

True, but the numbers have zero to do with what happens in the real world, unless you let a computer do all your driving and you never ever go over 40 mph. Not to mention never driving in non perfect weather conditions or ever even going outside a lab. The EPA test gets such stupid numbers they need to do a whole host of random math to get the numbers they publish.

[roxy1]

of course using an ethanol free gas is better. Try finding a station that has that though. I never argued using higher octane would give anyone any gains. I actually know how cars work. Modern cars do not have the ability to adjust enough stock for any higher octane.

Look, the EPA itself doesn't actually do any testing, the manufacturers do. The EPA just writes how the testing has to be done. And we all know the test itself is total bs. IF this was not the case we would not have a rash of automakers being sued over gas mileage figures, we would have a rash of lawsuits involving the EPA, because the test is totally bogus and does not apply to the real world in any way.

I understand all of this. I would say that since they revised the testing criteria in 2008 the numbers are closer to reality.

the 2nd gen yaris that had been rated at 34/40 got changed to 29/36 under the new criteria. personally, I had always beaten the old highway numbers without that much effort in all my Toyotas. the post 2008 highway numbers are very easy top beat now, imo.

there are definitely some cars out where hitting the epa numbers is harder, but even in my 2012 veloster and accent I could beat the numbers without too much hassle. it is much easier to do so in the yaris, as was the case with my fiat 500.

I suppose the epa tests could be better designed to reflect drivers who keep their foot on the gas until they are 50 feet from stop signs/lights, accelerate hard out of every stop, exceed the speed limit by 10+ mph all day, don't maintain their vehicles, etc, etc...However, i don't think the current numbers are too unrealistic for drivers who don't do those things.

[why?]

I understand all of this. I would say that since they revised the testing criteria in 2008 the numbers are closer to reality.

the 2nd gen yaris that had been rated at 34/40 got changed to 29/36 under the new criteria. personally, I had always beaten the old highway numbers without that much effort in all my Toyotas. the post 2008 highway numbers are very easy top beat now, imo.

there are definitely some cars out where hitting the epa numbers is harder, but even in my 2012 veloster and accent I could beat the numbers without too much hassle. it is much easier to do so in the yaris, as was the case with my fiat 500.

I suppose the epa tests could be better designed to reflect drivers who keep their foot on the gas until they are 50 feet from stop signs/lights, accelerate hard out of every stop, exceed the speed limit by 10+ mph all day, don't maintain their vehicles, etc, etc...However, i don't think the current numbers are too unrealistic for drivers who don't do those things.

Have you missed all the lawsuits? Hyundai had to change the rating on almost every single one of its cars after it was sued, Honda and Ford overrated their hybrids by as much as 10 mpg, and it seems like almost every manufacturer besides Toyota has been sued.

If the tests were done in the real world and not a lab they might actually mean something. The fact the numbers are beatable doesn't mean they are accurate.

[roxy1]

Have you missed all the lawsuits? Hyundai had to change the rating on almost every single one of its cars after it was sued, Honda and Ford overrated their hybrids by as much as 10 mpg, and it seems like almost every manufacturer besides Toyota has been sued.

If the tests were done in the real world and not a lab they might actually mean something. The fact the numbers are beatable doesn't mean they are accurate.the Hyundai numbers got adjusted down, but as a member of those forums when I had the veloster and accent, I can say beating the initial numbers wasn't a big deal, except for those who wanted to drive however they felt like and still expect to get decent mpg figures.

it is a litigation happy society, to be sure. too many folks want protection from self inflicted irresponsibility. there may be some cases where cars have been grossly overrated, but in the vast majority of general internet forum complaints about poor mileage, the drivers are the main culprit.

[nookandcrannycar]

I understand all of this. I would say that since they revised the testing criteria in 2008 the numbers are closer to reality.

the 2nd gen yaris that had been rated at 34/40 got changed to 29/36 under the new criteria. personally, I had always beaten the old highway numbers without that much effort in all my Toyotas. the post 2008 highway numbers are very easy top beat now, imo.

there are definitely some cars out where hitting the epa numbers is harder, but even in my 2012 veloster and accent I could beat the numbers without too much hassle. it is much easier to do so in the yaris, as was the case with my fiat 500.

I suppose the epa tests could be better designed to reflect drivers who keep their foot on the gas until they are 50 feet from stop signs/lights, accelerate hard out of every stop, exceed the speed limit by 10+ mph all day, don't maintain their vehicles, etc, etc...However, i don't think the current numbers are too unrealistic for drivers who don't do those things.

How did you feel about the Veloster? Likes? Dislikes?

[roxy1]

How did you feel about the Veloster? Likes? Dislikes?

for $18k, it was (mostly) the nicest car by far ive ever driven anywhere near that price range. awesome seats/seating position and silky smooth manual shifter, nicely appointed interior. I could get 40 mpg's highway without too much work, though in the 500 and yaris it is much easier. it stayed very flat through hard cornering, which was fun. the downsides were the ride was just too firm for my tastes for an everyday driver and the low rear glass was not the best choice for transporting dogs, which I do often.

some complained that the veloster promised much more on looks than it delivered in driving performance. essentially, it is an economy car (same 1.6 direct injection engine as the accent) underneath that looks very cool (depending on ones taste) and has an interior nicer than most econoboxes.

[nookandcrannycar]

for $18k, it was (mostly) the nicest car by far ive ever driven anywhere near that price range. awesome seats/seating position and silky smooth manual shifter, nicely appointed interior. I could get 40 mpg's highway without too much work, though in the 500 and yaris it is much easier. it stayed very flat through hard cornering, which was fun. the downsides were the ride was just too firm for my tastes for an everyday driver and the low rear glass was not the best choice for transporting dogs, which I do often.

some complained that the veloster promised much more on looks than it delivered in driving performance. essentially, it is an economy car (same 1.6 direct injection engine as the accent) underneath that looks very cool (depending on ones taste) and has an interior nicer than most econoboxes.

:thumbsup: Thanks for the info. I like the styling. One of my neighbors has had one for about 6 months (they also have an Accent SE, and a full sized pickup). My neighbor's Veloster is Yellow (an ugh Yellow, IMO), and I've been hoping I'd see a white one. A few days ago I finally saw a white one, and liked what I saw. Any problems with clearance/scraping when you had yours (speed bumps, and transitions from roads into parking lots) ?

[roxy1]

Any problems with clearance/scraping when you had yours (speed bumps, and transitions from roads into parking lots) ?

not that I can recall. I only had it at the tail end of that years winter, so can say much about driving in snow. I doubt the ground clearance is much different then the yaris.http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb313/roxy84_photos/004-3.jpg (http://s210.photobucket.com/user/roxy84_photos/media/004-3.jpg.html)

[nookandcrannycar]

^^^^^ Thanks. I like the way you captured the car relative to the background in the pic :thumbsup:. I would think that the color of the interior (in addition to the configuration of the space as mentioned) might have been less than ideal as well re transporting dogs.

[Hershey]

The sedan F.E. is starting to creep up , even with the Blizzak snows .

[roxy1]

^^^^^ Thanks. I like the way you captured the car relative to the background in the pic :thumbsup:. I would think that the color of the interior (in addition to the configuration of the space as mentioned) might have been less than ideal as well re transporting dogs.

yeah, im about 6'1", and the top of my head would touch the glass sitting in the rear seat. however, if I had to fold the rear seat down and put several dogs in, their backs were against the glass...not optimal.

besides, I often felt the interior was too nice for having dogs in there all the time.

[Hershey]

Called a local gas supplier and was told summer blend not expected until 1st week of May . Meanwhile , RBOB is at $2.998 , hopefully it'll stop rising .

[dj92]

I got about 6,5l/100km (36MPG) with the last oil fill (5W40; nothing else was available), now I put in 5W30 (the manual recommends 0W20, but I'm driving at rather high highway speeds (140...170km/h) (not only but also to let the fuel contents in the oil evaporate) and I want to reduce the engine's wear)
I'm driving about 20km per day through town and 2*80km (50mi) highway about every second week.
It's 8...9l/100km on highway and ~6l/100km in town.
I'll report how the values develop ;)

[dj92]

I didn't see a direct impact on FE yet, but seemingly the engine can keep up turning at load points where it would give up before.
My new highway speed record is 115,5MPH now (remember, I only have a 5spd MT) :D

[rustyspanner]

I've just done my first fuel economy calculation, the most exciting part of owning my Yaris! Mine is a 1.3 litre 5 door hatch with manual transmission. The fuel gauge started flashing at 610 km, when I filled up it took 37.5 litres. That's 6.15 l/100 km, or 38.25 MPG. Have followed tips on this site, ie. DFCO, pulse and glide, 36psi tires, timing lights etc. I hope to get a better result next week as my first tank included a lot of highway driving, which I suspect the 1.3 is not so efficient at.

[mirapatec]

My Yaris is getting pretty decent fuel efficiency. My Fuelly signature gives the latest estimate of basically 40 MPG in USA measurements. This is 7.1 litres per 100 kms or 17 KPL. I think these conversions are correct since I Googled them.

[746watts]

I bought my yaris hybrid in feb 14. I have over 19000kms on it now. Fuel economy at 100kms motorway driving is typically 55mpg (imp gal). I got 64mpg at 80kmph. No where near the claimed 80mpg (imp gal).

[jack black]

I bought my yaris hybrid in feb 14. I have over 19000kms on it now. Fuel economy at 100kms motorway driving is typically 55mpg (imp gal). I got 64mpg at 80kmph. No where near the claimed 80mpg (imp gal).

First, hybrid car in general and this one in particular are optimized for city driving. Yaris hybrid is known in USA as Prius c (I guess c for city).

Second, Euro fuel efficiency tests are too optimistic and not real life. US EPA tests are closer to real life. Fuelly is as real life as it gets.

Be warned, this forum is very hostile toward hybrid cars. Too many folks here have a chip on their shoulder.

[roxy1]

I bought my yaris hybrid in feb 14. I have over 19000kms on it now. Fuel economy at 100kms motorway driving is typically 55mpg (imp gal). I got 64mpg at 80kmph. No where near the claimed 80mpg (imp gal).

welcome, welcome, welcome!!!

its nice to see you can get the YARIS hybrid where you live. we don't get that here. the Prius C is sold here, which is very much a prius in looks/style, though built on the same platform.

many here were hoping we would get the YARIS hybrid, but we didn't.

at least someone can get a YARIS that is a hybrid rather than another version of the prius.

yes, I agree the hybrid strength is in the city, though the vast majority that I see are cruising the highways.

[why?]

I bought my yaris hybrid in feb 14. I have over 19000kms on it now. Fuel economy at 100kms motorway driving is typically 55mpg (imp gal). I got 64mpg at 80kmph. No where near the claimed 80mpg (imp gal).

It is all about changing the way you drive. You cannot drive a hybrid like you drive a normal car and expect to get the advertised gas mileage, you have to totally change the way you drive.

You almost have to totally re learn how you drive to hit the great gas mileage numbers.

Oh, and show us some pictures.

btw, I can almost get 55 mpg imp in my Yaris. Hybrids are terrible on highways.

[albee213]

I just purchased a 07 Yaris with 23,410 miles on it. I just finished my first tank of fuel from full fill up.

I drove it until the last bar started blinking with 349.7 miles and it took 10.15 gallons to fill giving me 34.45 mpg in Seattle which is all hills.

I keep records of all fill ups for years on my cars and just retired a Cadillac from daily commute that only offered 17 mpg.

[nookandcrannycar]

I just purchased a 07 Yaris with 23,410 miles on it.

:eyebulge: Does the seller have a twin with another Yaris with similar mileage?..........I'll buy the twin's Yaris :biggrin:.

[timothyone]

I didn't fully believe all of these 40+ MPG stories with 1.5L gas engines. I did little to build my FE other than watch my MPG numbers on my dash, and drive between 60 and 65. I averaged 42.4 MPG on a 250 odd mile trip on I-65 in Ky. (Right at 125 miles and back) I wanted to go faster but so enjoyed seeing the MPG AVG stay so high. I make this trip fairly often, so I'll soon have the chance to try for better. With these miles and a bearable car payment, I am glad I didn't go for the Hybrid.

[mirapatec]

I didn't fully believe all of these 40+ MPG stories with 1.5L gas engines.

I was also skeptical at first while I was deciding to purchase my Yaris. Once the Yaris was home and I was driving around, I verified that the very good fuel economy figures were true.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

What I did with my Yaris: http://www.fuelly.com/car/toyota/yaris/2007/07Vios/183168

What I'm doing now with my FR-S: http://www.fuelly.com/car/scion/fr-s/2014/07Vios/287038

[hans solo]

I got 42 mph on this last tank of gas.

[dj92]

Heavily loaded (rear wheel's upper ends began hiding behind/inside the fenders) some weeks ago including higher velocities (Autobahn): 6l/100km (300km trip) :D

[matti]

I'm about 2/3rds of the way through my current tank and I'm at 45.2 mpg. Starting in September I'll be doing a lot of freeway driving, so my mileage will drop quite a bit.

[timothyone]

If you stay around 60 mph. I drift between 60 and 65 and get well over 40 hwy. Anything over 65 will suck the gas. I enjoy cranking the music up and enjoying a nice cheap, safe drive. Only you know if you are actually have good reason to hurry.

[SpeedyYaris]

When I go 55, the scan-gauge reads 49-51 MPG

[nookandcrannycar]

What I did with my Yaris: http://www.fuelly.com/car/toyota/yaris/2007/07Vios/183168

What I'm doing now with my FR-S: http://www.fuelly.com/car/scion/fr-s/2014/07Vios/287038

:thumbsup: Pretty close with your new FR-S !

[Kaotic Lazagna]

:thumbsup: Pretty close with your new FR-S !

Yeah, not too far from the Yaris. Although I'm driving 5-10 mph slower and using premium gas now :laugh:

[albee213]

I found this one at a dealership, think it was from a "richer" couple or family, and was just a second car that wasn't used much.

[El Kapitan]

i'm a new member and still on my first tank so nothing to report yet. it's really nice to see that so many of you beat the EPA rating on your cars. i'm coming from a honda fit, which like most fits, met the EPA rating but barely ever exceeded it. if you check the fit forums or fuelly, you will see that most people achieve the EPA rating with their fits. many of you here blow the EPA rating out of the water with your yaris'. i'm also an F150 guy and most fords don't reach their EPA rating (not that one should buy an F150 if they care about mileage).

so it seems like this:

toyota = better than EPA
honda = accurate to EPA
ford = worse than EPA (not just F150s, btw. there are lawsuits with the C-max)

i love ford btw, i'm not trying to slag them. it's just that they don't meet expectations in real world mpg


"WHY?" - i've been browsing this thread and you've been here since the beginning. nice work! good member.

[El Kapitan]

good stuff. Thanks for posting.

here's mine
510km / 35Litre....

It's 102.5 this morning around GTA. For those of you live around GTA, always fill your gas after 10:30pm before 12:00am midnight. that's when the price drop all the way from 90.5~92.5 for last few days.

just noticing this post from about 9 years ago. gas has made its way back to this price again. what a crazy ride it's been.

[El Kapitan]

My Yaris is getting pretty decent fuel efficiency. My Fuelly signature gives the latest estimate of basically 40 MPG in USA measurements. This is 7.1 litres per 100 kms or 17 KPL. I think these conversions are correct since I Googled them.

7.1 liter/100 kms = 33.12881455399061 US MPG

http://www.calculateme.com/cGasMileage/LitersPer100kmtoMPG.htm

[nookandcrannycar]

just noticing this post from about 9 years ago. gas has made its way back to this price again. what a crazy ride it's been.

:thumbsup:. Nine years ago gas may have been the same price here near Houston that it is now here near Houston....but that is a fair bit lower than it was in California nine years ago :laugh:.

[El Kapitan]

i was checking gas prices the other day in oklahoma city, which is one of the cheapest places in the US, gas was (CA)47 cents/ liter, which, factoring currency exchange rate, comes to about (US)1.4765 per gallon. lucky b-----rds!

but we all know that it won't stay down forever. the only question is how much time before it starts the inevitable climb once again...

[nookandcrannycar]

i was checking gas prices the other day in oklahoma city, which is one of the cheapest places in the US, gas was (CA)47 cents/ liter, which, factoring currency exchange rate, comes to about (US)1.4765 per gallon. lucky b-----rds!

but we all know that it won't stay down forever. the only question is how much time before it starts the inevitable climb once again...

:biggrin: I paid less than that.....$1.4190 (US dollars) per gallon in Tomball, TX (a suburb of Houston) for my last fill-up on January 18th.

[Synyster]

Few weeks ago I bought a brand new 2015 Yaris L 1.5 automatic. My job requires me to drive a lot so I had to have an economical car. After few tanks, I'm really disappointed with mileage. Usually 28-30 mpg with 70% city 30% highway with 90% in Eco mode.
Before Yaris I drove a Honda Fit/Jazz and I averaged 38 mpg combined in same conditions. Recently my rental was Nissan Versa Note; during few weeks of driving it, my average was 33 mpg.