Fuel Economy

[krolos]

There seems to be real difference what mpg people get in there Yaris,
I know drive style, Auto Vs manual and hybermile tricks account for some Of
that, but could it be that some Yaris just simply gets better mpg than others
regardless of Driver ,I am thinking there must be some kind of technical inconsistency in the engines or computers, there seems to be a fair amount
people here with similar driving styles, but big difference in mpg.

[SpaceShot]

I don't think the inconsistency theory about engines holds up.

I got 20-25% over EPA in my last ride which was a Suzuki XL-7.
24Mpg for a small/mid size SUV is not that bad.
But with the Yaris, and starting with an EPA rating of 36, my commute average is 45. It took 16 months to get from 38 to 45, but now it is very consistent.

Small tweaks (improved oil, filters, aero changes) by themselves might only get 1mgp improvement, but several of them combined with great driving will get very good mileage numbers.

[42ezra]

I own a 2008 hatchback and used to average 35 mpg with fast starts from lights and high speed on the interstates - all of a sudden when odometer turned over 70,000 typical mpg declined to 28. I have been using A/C this summer but also used A/C in the past. How can I check my emissions status, O2 sensor, etc. Anybody have any thoughts? Thank you for your kind attention.

[SpaceShot]

The ScanGuage has ability to read engine error codes and it would be worth your time to borrow one for a week or more.
If you want to spend just a little money you can get a Toyota capable engine code reader or have a local shop plug one in a give you a printed report.

I think an O2 sensor going bad at 70K is a little early. But emissions related devices are more likely than other items.
However, I would also look toward your wheels. (really low tire pressure, stuck or dragging caliper, serious misalignment) 70K worth of New England potholes could most certainly have worn something out...

[mkaresh]

O2 sensors can go at any time, it seems. But in this case there would be a CEL.

[henry33]

I get the fuel consumption of 5.5 l/km, should be something around 43 mpg I do not really know how you are able to get 50 mpg
I have 1.33 1nr-fe engine and manual 6 speed trany ;) it helps a lot on the highway ;) nut still not able to get 50 :(

[Eatoman]

I get stuck in stop & go traffic. 42 psi frt, 35 rear.
Does it make a difference in gas mileage if you inflate the front tires more than the rear?
I currently have all tires at 40psi...

[nmgolfer]

I get the fuel consumption of 5.5 l/km, should be something around 43 mpg I do not really know how you are able to get 50 mpg
I have 1.33 1nr-fe engine and manual 6 speed trany ;) it helps a lot on the highway ;) nut still not able to get 50 :(

Drive like a sailor.... Think SMOOOOOOOOOTHHHH....Don't turn that tiller or you'll scrub off some speed. Pretend you don't have any brakes and drive accordingly. When I was a kid my boss had a truck with crappy brakes I occasionally had to drive... Old Swede farmer that he was, he had no sympathy for me and simply said: don't get into a position where you need your brakes! I still drive that way today nearly forty years later and I still have nightmares of standing on those brakes and that thing slooooooowly coming to a stop.

Thing is anytime your foot is off (I mean off) the gas pedal you're getting better than 200 mpg (ac off right?) It adds up. Too bad our littl' Yaris doesn't have regen brakes say spinning up a little flywheel so we wouldn't have to feel so bad about using them... In time it will I suppose :laugh:

[STC]

I get the fuel consumption of 5.5 l/km, should be something around 43 mpg I do not really know how you are able to get 50 mpg
I have 1.33 1nr-fe engine and manual 6 speed trany ;) it helps a lot on the highway ;) nut still not able to get 50 :(

Drive below 55 MPH (88 KPH). Be very gentle on the accelerater, as if it is an egg! Pump up your tires to manufacturer maximum rating. Use long in gear glides on hills/grades... coasting. Drive 70% of the time or above highway miles. Limit your weight of car...

Cheers! :smile:

[SimTronik]

40psi, really? Damn

[bkrownd]

Drive below 55 MPH (88 KPH). Be very gentle on the accelerater, as if it is an egg! Pump up your tires to manufacturer maximum rating. Use long in gear glides on hills/grades... coasting. Drive 70% of the time or above highway miles. Limit your weight of car...

Walk, bike and bus whenever possible. :smoking:

[henry33]

I am trying everything possible but it is very hard in the city to push it below.
on the highway when I was doing 100 km/h I was able to push it on 4 l/100km ;)

[STC]

I am trying everything possible but it is very hard in the city to push it below.
on the highway when I was doing 100 km/h I was able to push it on 4 l/100km ;)

If you are able to drive over 70% on super highways or xpressways you can get over 45 mpg, considering you keep the car's speed at under 85-88 kph... super gentle on the accelerator, and major glides (foot off gas pedal) using the car's inertia (momentum). City driving - stop and go driving limits FE!

Cheers! :smile:

[STC]

Walk, bike and bus whenever possible. :smoking:

YES! Would be nice if this was promoted and actively encouraged by American culture!

Cheers! :smile:

[DevilGirl]

Walk, bike and bus whenever possible. :smoking:

YES! Would be nice if this was promoted and actively encouraged by American culture!

We lack the infrastructure in most cities/towns/counties to make this practical.

Case in point:

I live near Allentown, PA, but work in Philadelphia, PA. Philly does have Septa (public trans) which does extend up relatively close to where I live. But to catch one of their trains, I still have to drive an hour to the train station. Than sit on the train for 40-55 minutes (depending on express or local train, and if they're running on time). Then take the subway for 5 minutes to walk the 4 blocks to work. Total commute, approximately 2 hours 20 minutes (depending on traffic, Septa running on schedule, etc).

BUT, if I drove all the way to work, it'd only take approximately 1 hour 25 minutes (depending on traffic).

Yes, I know I'm the exception to the norm, given how far I live from work. However this is becoming even more popular. Where I live, we're close enough to NYC, Philly, Poconos that a lot of people live in our area but commute to work to those areas, particularly NYC.

Even if I worked locally (within the Lehigh Valley), our public trans is not up to par. It works great if you live within the larger city limits and only want to get around the city. But it does not exist in the outlying towns. So I'd still have to drive, to catch the bus, and probably wouldn't get close enough to work that I'd have to walk 10+ blocks. It's a lot easier to just drive where you need to go.

[bkrownd]

Even if I worked locally (within the Lehigh Valley), our public trans is not up to par. It works great if you live within the larger city limits and only want to get around the city. But it does not exist in the outlying towns. So I'd still have to drive, to catch the bus, and probably wouldn't get close enough to work that I'd have to walk 10+ blocks. It's a lot easier to just drive where you need to go.

Americans...always making excuses, always avoiding solutions. :wink: The root of your problem is not "transportation infrastructure" - it's that you simply chose to live much too far from work (or work much too far from home, take your pick), without consideration for efficient transportation. It's a serious cultural/societal disfunction here.

If you really worked "locally" you'd be able to walk or bike to work by definition. We are born with feet, but recently people seem to have a real mental block against using them for their intended purpose...transportation. I've always lived within an hour's walk to work....or 10-15 minutes by bike. Yeesh, "10+ blocks" is nothing! Love a good walk. :wub:

[DevilGirl]

Americans...always making excuses, always avoiding solutions. :wink: The root of your problem is not "transportation infrastructure" - it's that you simply chose to live much too far from work (or work much too far from home, take your pick), without consideration for efficient transportation. It's a serious cultural/societal disfunction here.

If you really worked "locally" you'd be able to walk or bike to work by definition. We are born with feet, but recently people seem to have a real mental block against using them for their intended purpose...transportation. I've always lived within an hour's walk to work....or 10-15 minutes by bike. Yeesh, "10+ blocks" is nothing! Love a good walk. :wub:

I live in the country. There is NOTHING within walking distance. And I'm not making excusing, I am explaining the situation as it it. There are some very rural areas in this country. There are very few jobs in those rural areas. Come visit sometime. I'll show you.

[docB]

I have a neighbor that works .3 miles from where he lives. He starts up his mustang to drive back and forth. I wonder if he drives to a gym for a run on the tread mill? Americans are not always the brightest bulbs.
doc

[why?]

Americans...always making excuses, always avoiding solutions. :wink: The root of your problem is not "transportation infrastructure" - it's that you simply chose to live much too far from work (or work much too far from home, take your pick), without consideration for efficient transportation. It's a serious cultural/societal disfunction here.

If you really worked "locally" you'd be able to walk or bike to work by definition. We are born with feet, but recently people seem to have a real mental block against using them for their intended purpose...transportation. I've always lived within an hour's walk to work....or 10-15 minutes by bike. Yeesh, "10+ blocks" is nothing! Love a good walk. :wub:

I have a neighbor that works .3 miles from where he lives. He starts up his mustang to drive back and forth. I wonder if he drives to a gym for a run on the tread mill? Americans are not always the brightest bulbs.
doc

wow, way to show your egalitarian stuck up cluelessness. Sorry but Americans don't want to live in a city, we really don't want to live in apartments that are 10 square feet at best. If you want that you are free to move to some european country.

I'll take the living in the middle of nowhere any day. No crime, very little noise, neighbors who i've never met, never will, but I know I can trust.

I'll take that any day over being crammed into a sardine can because it makes someone who is so messed up they want to run everyone else's life while they destroy their own.

btw, I like mass transit. It is great in certain places. Washington DC's metro is phenomenal. The NY subway system might be infamous, but it rocks. I have to throw in Boston's T, which is pretty darn good too. However, unless you want to give every penny you earn to the federal government we cannot have mass transit for everyone.

I wish they would throw Amtrak overboard, it is a disgusting waste of money and they run it as terribly as they possibly can.

I do wish we had some of those awesome high speed trains. 250 mph + would make boston to ny a breeze.

[bkrownd]

I live in the country. There is NOTHING within walking distance. And I'm not making excusing, I am explaining the situation as it it. There are some very rural areas in this country. There are very few jobs in those rural areas. Come visit sometime. I'll show you.

Good grief, of course you're making excuses. You CHOSE to "live in the country" where you can't possibly hope to find efficient transportation options, but then you make excuses that instead "lack of infrastructure" makes anything but driving an automobile impractical. Incorrect. The actual problem is that you simply limited your own transportation options by making a poor choice of where to live.

[SimTronik]

Does inflate your tires with azote is really better and worth it ?

[TLyttle]

bkrownd has it right. I moved here to retire, less than a mile from "town". When I lived in the Big City, I made sure that I was within biking distance of my job, and only drove my vehicle if I needed it to transport goods. Now, my vehicle stays home unless the weather is simply too stupid, or if I must travel to the Big City (some things cannot be managed locally). For a short time, I was an hour's commute from home, so I spent all my off-hours looking for a job close by. Not many people see this approach as "possible": nothing could be further from the truth.

In fact, none of this is new. 100+ years ago, one worked on the property, or rented a minimal apartment near their jobsite where the wage-earner stayed all week, commuting (by train, usually) home for the weekend. No, no, now we have the automobile so that we can spend 2, 3, 4, hours A DAY in that tin box, commuting. What an outrageous waste of one's life!!!

[nmgolfer]

Good grief, of course you're making excuses. You CHOSE to "live in the country" where you can't possibly hope to find efficient transportation options, but then you make excuses that instead "lack of infrastructure" makes anything but driving an automobile impractical. Incorrect. The actual problem is that you simply limited your own transportation options by making a poor choice of where to live.

Please... Off your high horse. Some cannot afford to live in the city. Some want their children to be able to leave the house without having to worry about gangs and gunfire. Their only (real) option is a long commute to where the work is. Now consider that you CHOOSE to live on an island in the middle of the Pacific. How wasteful! Think of all of the energy used to deliver the goods you need to live the life you do... I wonder how much we mainlanders are subsidising your poor choice of where you live.

[nmgolfer]

bkrownd has it right. I moved here to retire, less than a mile from "town". When I lived in the Big City, I made sure that I was within biking distance of my job, and only drove my vehicle if I needed it to transport goods. Now, my vehicle stays home unless the weather is simply too stupid, or if I must travel to the Big City (some things cannot be managed locally). For a short time, I was an hour's commute from home, so I spent all my off-hours looking for a job close by. Not many people see this approach as "possible": nothing could be further from the truth.

In fact, none of this is new. 100+ years ago, one worked on the property, or rented a minimal apartment near their jobsite where the wage-earner stayed all week, commuting (by train, usually) home for the weekend. No, no, now we have the automobile so that we can spend 2, 3, 4, hours A DAY in that tin box, commuting. What an outrageous waste of one's life!!!

BC, not even Vancouver, has nothing like the war zones (i.e. affordable housing districts) which define America's major (and even not so major) inner cities. Its easy for a Cannuk to tell someone else where they should live (as long as it NIMBY).

If America were serious about ending dependence on foriegn oil (its not) ... If America were serious about ending long commutes which epitomize the American way of life (especially the western states), then America would solve the problems in the inner cities. Our dysfunctional government lacks commitment to tackling ANY of these supposed concerns. (Because they are somebody else's problems)

[DevilGirl]

Good grief, of course you're making excuses. You CHOSE to "live in the country" where you can't possibly hope to find efficient transportation options, but then you make excuses that instead "lack of infrastructure" makes anything but driving an automobile impractical. Incorrect. The actual problem is that you simply limited your own transportation options by making a poor choice of where to live.

Really? You are correct. I do chose to live in the country. For the simple fact that I like to be able to breathe. I work in Philly. I've seen the city life. And it SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

City living is not for everyone. And that is not an excuse.

Please get off your high horse.

[daf62757]

We lack the infrastructure in most cities/towns/counties to make this practical.

Case in point:

I live near Allentown, PA, but work in Philadelphia, PA. Philly does have Septa (public trans) which does extend up relatively close to where I live. But to catch one of their trains, I still have to drive an hour to the train station. Than sit on the train for 40-55 minutes (depending on express or local train, and if they're running on time). Then take the subway for 5 minutes to walk the 4 blocks to work. Total commute, approximately 2 hours 20 minutes (depending on traffic, Septa running on schedule, etc).

BUT, if I drove all the way to work, it'd only take approximately 1 hour 25 minutes (depending on traffic).

Yes, I know I'm the exception to the norm, given how far I live from work. However this is becoming even more popular. Where I live, we're close enough to NYC, Philly, Poconos that a lot of people live in our area but commute to work to those areas, particularly NYC.

Even if I worked locally (within the Lehigh Valley), our public trans is not up to par. It works great if you live within the larger city limits and only want to get around the city. But it does not exist in the outlying towns. So I'd still have to drive, to catch the bus, and probably wouldn't get close enough to work that I'd have to walk 10+ blocks. It's a lot easier to just drive where you need to go.

Public transportation is about convenience. If it is cheaper to use it, both in terms of time and cost, you probably would. When it costs more, you won't.

People need to use common sense about transit....and it sounds like you are using very good common sense!

[DebbyM46227]

Good grief, of course you're making excuses. You CHOSE to "live in the country" where you can't possibly hope to find efficient transportation options, but then you make excuses that instead "lack of infrastructure" makes anything but driving an automobile impractical. Incorrect. The actual problem is that you simply limited your own transportation options by making a poor choice of where to live.

I choose to live in the suburbs where I can have a large condo with a large yard surrounding it, all mine, no loud city noises, no crime, etc. I drive 30 miles RT each day to work. Who cares? I certainly don't as my car gets good mileage. I'm not into being "green", I don't know anyone at all who rides the bus downtown. We don't have a subway in my city; we all drive, one to a car here. I don't believe in sharing a ride either, its too much trouble.

:burnrubber:

[KrazyDawg]

Washington DC's metro is phenomenal.
I lived in the DC area for a few years. The metro is good if you live nearby and you work in areas where it runs. I didn't get my driver's license until my mid 20s and I relied on public transit to get around everywhere. WMATA's buses aren't that great. The lines I took ran every 30 min to an hour and these were major bus lines. On the other hand, it did run every 15-20 min during commuting hours but if you wanted to get anywhere it took time. Nothing like NYC's subway.

[why?]

I lived in the DC area for a few years. The metro is good if you live nearby and you work in areas where it runs. I didn't get my driver's license until my mid 20s and I relied on public transit to get around everywhere. WMATA's buses aren't that great. The lines I took ran every 30 min to an hour and these were major bus lines. On the other hand, it did run every 15-20 min during commuting hours but if you wanted to get anywhere it took time. Nothing like NYC's subway.

yea, but I don't think I would want to take one of those busses. To do busses right you'd need millions of people willing to use them. London's bus system is pretty sweet, but I'd hate to see the cost, and every bus I went on had at least a dozen people on them.

[North Star]

1st tank

560km - 40L

Mostly highway.

[TLyttle]

nmgolfer's idea that Canucks have a free ride as far as commuting is concerned isn't quite right. We DO have high-traffic areas, not as many as the US, but they are there, as are the commute time numbers. If I was forced to give away 3 hours of my life EVERY DAY to commuting, it simply would not happen. Going to where the "work" is becomes a lame excuse IMHO. I would rather "learn" to shovel manure on a local farm than give away such a large part of my day!

Everyone looks at their "investment" in education, and how it would be a waste if not used. Not true. The waste is in throwing away 3 eight-hour days per week to commuting. Why is it so hard for people to recognise why they are here? Is it to jeopardise one's life in the daily suicide race? Gee, I don't think so...

[KrazyDawg]

Everyone looks at their "investment" in education, and how it would be a waste if not used. Not true. The waste is in throwing away 3 eight-hour days per week to commuting. Why is it so hard for people to recognise why they are here? Is it to jeopardise one's life in the daily suicide race? Gee, I don't think so...
That's what I'm doing right now. Commuting 135 miles a day which takes over 3 hours. I'm working full-time while attending school full-time and also supporting a family.

[TLyttle]

So, is that 3 hours one way? In the SF area, that sounds about right, so you are donating 6 unproductive hours to what?? It doesn't go to your education, your job, or your family... Oh, dear...

[why?]

just to chime in, I drove from florida to mass, and I averaged 38 mpg for the 1300 mile trip.

For some reason the fill ups from the northern states gave me better mileage than the southern states did.

[YesYaris]

BC, not even Vancouver, has nothing like the war zones (i.e. affordable housing districts) which define America's major (and even not so major) inner cities. Its easy for a Cannuk to tell someone else where they should live (as long as it NIMBY).

If that is your opinion I have to wonder if you've ever been to Vancouver. Are you aware that Vancouver's downtown eastside (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtown_Eastside) is one of the poorest and high crime areas of North America? The amount of violence in the DES trumps many impoverished areas of plenty of North American cities -- combined.

If that wasn't bad enough, Vancouver's suburb of Surrey has a district known as Whalley that has almost as bad of a reputation as the downtown east side. Drugs, combined with gang turf wars and murders (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/from-heaven-to-hell-18-die-as-drugs-war-rages-on-streets-of-vancouver-1663008.html), have defined Vancouver's image and created a major issue for media relations during the run up to the 2010 Olympic games.

Anyways, Canadian cities are built with more public transit planning in mind and the Canadian culture, for the most part, does not lend itself to extremely long commuter networks. Toronto, however, is a exception as its commuter network extends to the sorts of distances common in many (albeit much, much smaller) American cities. Canadians love their inner cities and despite normal struggles they are still safe places to live. Even in Vancouver's case, the inner city continues to be very desirable.

PS...calling someone a "Canuck" with a hint of arrogance is no different than if someone were to condescendingly refer to you as a "Greengo" or a "Yank." I think most people on this board are well above that sort of condescending attitude, wouldn't you agree?

[TLyttle]

I've been called lots of things, Canuck doesn't bother me a bit. As a Canuck, I have travelled in the US and Europe without penalty, unlike some Americans I have met. The US has people travelling who should stay at home: somehow, they think that yelling at someone will help them understand English better! I've also met Americans here who think they are still in the US, and that US currency is to be treated the same as Canadian currency, and get REALLY huffy when they are told otherwise. Personally, I think it has to do with the parochial education system there...

[nmgolfer]

If that is your opinion I have to wonder if you've ever been to Vancouver. Are you aware that Vancouver's downtown eastside (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtown_Eastside) is one of the poorest and high crime areas of North America? The amount of violence in the DES trumps many impoverished areas of plenty of North American cities -- combined.

If that wasn't bad enough, Vancouver's suburb of Surrey has a district known as Whalley that has almost as bad of a reputation as the downtown east side. Drugs, combined with gang turf wars and murders (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/from-heaven-to-hell-18-die-as-drugs-war-rages-on-streets-of-vancouver-1663008.html), have defined Vancouver's image and created a major issue for media relations during the run up to the 2010 Olympic games.

Anyways, Canadian cities are built with more public transit planning in mind and the Canadian culture, for the most part, does not lend itself to extremely long commuter networks. Toronto, however, is a exception as its commuter network extends to the sorts of distances common in many (albeit much, much smaller) American cities. Canadians love their inner cities and despite normal struggles they are still safe places to live. Even in Vancouver's case, the inner city continues to be very desirable.

PS...calling someone a "Canuck" with a hint of arrogance is no different than if someone were to condescendingly refer to you as a "Greengo" or a "Yank." I think most people on this board are well above that sort of condescending attitude, wouldn't you agree?

Yes... I've been to Vancouver many times. You seem to contradict yourself. First you seem to claim Vancouver is the arm pit of north america then in the next sentence you say Canadian inner cities are safe places to live (which is something Americans will never know since we cannot immigrate there unless we marry in). Make up your mind. Funny you think 'Canuk' is a derogatory term. If it were you would think the Vancouver's hockey team would be named something else so no... I don't agree with you

[KrazyDawg]

So, is that 3 hours one way? In the SF area, that sounds about right, so you are donating 6 unproductive hours to what?? It doesn't go to your education, your job, or your family... Oh, dear...
It's 1h30m one way due to taking a different route to avoid paying two tolls and driving 60 MPH. The return trip varies from 1h45m to 2+ hours. A typical work day for me is leaving at 6 in the morning and returning around 9, so I'm gone for about 15 hours.

The fortunate ones are the workers that are able to commute by a work shuttle such as the one Google provides.

[why?]

I've been called lots of things, Canuck doesn't bother me a bit. As a Canuck, I have travelled in the US and Europe without penalty, unlike some Americans I have met. The US has people travelling who should stay at home: somehow, they think that yelling at someone will help them understand English better! I've also met Americans here who think they are still in the US, and that US currency is to be treated the same as Canadian currency, and get REALLY huffy when they are told otherwise. Personally, I think it has to do with the parochial education system there...

I wish our schools were run by Church's, maybe more of the mental rejects would actually know something.

[TLyttle]

Gee, I would be careful of that one. The churches have a spotty record on schooling, from very good to very bad, about the same as the public-run institutions. Much of the failure of the school systems has more to do with political grandstanding than anything else: which President decided that "no child left behind" was a great policy? So now, the "mental rejects" end up with a high school diploma just as long as they actually show up at school. I am old enough to have survived a disciplined, complete education, based on the 3 Rs, plus a Social Studies course that taught us about more than just the country we lived in, and a history course covering the world. And if you didn't pass, you got to repeat it until you DID pass. Sure, spoken like an old dude, but I know my education is superior to anything taught in our schools now.

We also knew about guns, as WW11 was freshly over. We were taught to respect each other, not to fear each other. Much better.

[why?]

Gee, I would be careful of that one. The churches have a spotty record on schooling, from very good to very bad, about the same as the public-run institutions. Much of the failure of the school systems has more to do with political grandstanding than anything else: which President decided that "no child left behind" was a great policy? So now, the "mental rejects" end up with a high school diploma just as long as they actually show up at school. I am old enough to have survived a disciplined, complete education, based on the 3 Rs, plus a Social Studies course that taught us about more than just the country we lived in, and a history course covering the world. And if you didn't pass, you got to repeat it until you DID pass. Sure, spoken like an old dude, but I know my education is superior to anything taught in our schools now.

We also knew about guns, as WW11 was freshly over. We were taught to respect each other, not to fear each other. Much better.

Definitely better.Which President decided a federal board of education was a good thing?

I agree Bush was bad for us, he has a love of big government that is so wrong, and he allowed Obama to come in and grow the government even more.

[STC]

I agree Bush was bad for us, he has a love of big government that is so wrong, and he allowed Obama to come in and grow the government even more.

The workings of the false left/right political dichotomy!

When will America see it's all a lie! Government for the Corporations and Government by the Corporations. They determine the government policy...

US Government is best described as a:

"Techno-plutocratic business-associational Crony Corporate-fascist Media/Entertainment induced Crimeocracy State", with the US President's job being the pitchman to sell the illusion... the supplier of the ‘bread and circuses’ to you via the corporate controlled Mainstream Media (MSM). :wink:

Cheers!

[why?]

The workings of the false left/right political dichotomy!

When will America see it's all a lie! Government for the Corporations and Government by the Corporations. They determine the government policy...

US Government is best described as a:

"Techno-plutocratic business-associational Crony Corporate-fascist Media/Entertainment induced Crimeocracy State", with the US President's job being the pitchman to sell the illusion... the supplier of the ‘bread and circuses’ to you via the corporate controlled Mainstream Media (MSM). :wink:

Cheers!

Well of course the corporations are going to do everything they can to hide it as much as possible. However some of the whisperings I have heard is that a ton of things citizens would assume is completely under governmental control was given to, and then taken over completely by private corporations. Kinda scary.

[TLyttle]

Time for another book, gentlemen, on the fate of not only your country, but most other countries on the planet. "The Secret History of the American Empire" by John Perkins shows that the "corporatocracy" does not want nation states to have control fo their natural and human resources, pressuring national governments to get on board with the global free trade agenda. Seems to me that this will lead to something that has eluded righteous leaders and madmen for the last century, world domination. Only this time, no one will survive as an individual unless they work towards this end. Is everybody happy?

[redglare45]

Switched from 17's (Centerline RPM's) to 15 inch steelies.
1st pic is the night before. 2nd Pic is the morning after, right after I filled up.
Drove about 85% highway/ 15% city. :smile:

[redglare45]

This is my second tank, back-to-back in the 40MPG mile range :smile:

Been doing mainly highway, about 85% and 15% City.
Distance:447.8 mi.
Fuel Used:10.433
MPG: 42.92 :biggrin:

[redglare45]

My best so far to date:

Distance:475.4 mi.
Fuel Used:10.926
MPG: 43.51 :thumbup:

[Hershey]

2010 3 door w/ auto : 42.17 m.p.g. ( 87mis. / 2.063 gals. : 1 click of nozzle ) , E.M. ( Eco-Meter ) : 42 ; 2 people , many hills , 35 p.s.i. , VALERO 87 , avg. speed :47 m.p.h. , 42 degrees , Winds : N.E. 10 > 20 , dry roads , PENNZOIL Yellow Bottle ( conventional ) 5w-30 ( S.N. , GF-5 ) , and 25% Cty. / 75% Hwy.. Car has 12,350+ mis..

[2007yariz]

95% of in town driving, highway trips are around 4 miles.

35.3MPG！！！

I should get above 40s if i drive mostly highway.

[N9QGS]

I get between 38 and 42 mpg on my daily interstate commutes, I get closer to 38 mpg if Im driving 70+ and 42 if I drive like 63 mpg in cruise. here in Kentucky I-75. Keep the RPM below 3,000 and the car does really well. I like to run at a speed of 2800-2850 on the interstate in my AT.

[brg88tx]

I get between 38 and 42 mpg on my daily interstate commutes, I get closer to 38 mpg if Im driving 70+ and 42 if I drive like 63 mpg in cruise. here in Kentucky I-75. Keep the RPM below 3,000 and the car does really well. I like to run at a speed of 2800-2850 on the interstate in my AT.
good to see an automatic transmission still going strong at 157,000 miles.

[Hershey]

2008 sedan w/ auto : 41.045 m.p.g. ( 376.8 mis. / 9.18 gals. ) , VALERO 89 ( winter blend ) w/ TECHRON , 2 bars left . Gas mileage seems to be fine since the head cylinder gasket replacement .

[redglare45]

Gallons to fill up: 10.83 gallons
Miles: 502.5
MPG: 46.39

My best MPG's so far & my 1st tank @500 miles or better. :smile:


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[STC]

Gallons to fill up: 10.83 gallons
Miles: 502.5
MPG: 46.39

My best MPG's so far & my 1st tank @500 miles or better. :smile:


Nice! :headbang:...

And Southern Cal to boot!

Cheers!

[redglare45]

Thank you STC

[petyanca]

.
Gallons to fill up: 10.83 gallons
Miles: 502.5
MPG: 46.39

My best MPG's so far & my 1st tank @500 miles or better. :smile:


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[redglare45]

@ petyanca, I was in the slow lane and doing between 55-65, keeping with the flow of traffic.

[Steve L.]

I average 36 MPG driving city and interstate with an automatic transmission. The best was 39 MPG and the worst was 31 MPG. I drive pretty hard too. I like the gas mileage. I think it is pretty good and the car has some zoom in it.

[Bredayaris]

My Yaris diesel did 50 MPG, fully loaded, a/c on, lights on and normal driving.

[Jedz123]

Getting mid to high 30's all winter... We've had a warm spell this last week though and I filled up with 6.12 gallons of fuel and went 296.8 miles, it worked out to 48.49mpg. Best Tank I've had thus far! I drive at 50-55mph and its all highway. Run full Synthetic oil and never use the brake pedal (engine brake everytime possible). My shoe box is giving my motorcycles a run for their money!

[rick996]

I've been getting low to mid 30s all winter, especially when I'm driving at 9 MPH behind people who have no right to drive in the snow. My Harley (Sportster XL 883 L) averages 50 MPH.

[docB]

I am running 185/65-14 snows up front. With the longer warm up time and having to defrost the inside of the car, I'm down in the low 30s mpg. The more efficient the vehicle,the more effect the variables have. To stay in the big numbers takes a life style change. I have averaged just over 40 mpg for all the gas that has gone through the tank. 16 or 17 months so far.
doc

[TLyttle]

When the 185s wear out, go narrower if available. Those wide tires actually work against you, not only does your fuel efficiency suffer, but the narrow tires work better in the snow because they cut through the snow deeper for better grip, and don't plow as much.

[Hershey]

2008 auto sedan : 37.9 m.p.g. ; E.M.: 38.4 . 1 click of nozzle of winter blend 87 octane w/ 10% ethanol and 4 non studded COOPER Weathermaster ST-2 snow tires set at 35>36 p.s.i.. Overall temps of 30 . This includes some snow / ice covered roads as well . Not so bad . Can't wait for the warmer weather and summer blend of gas . :smile:

[Hershey]

2010 YARIS 3 door w/ auto : Calc. 36.52 m.p.g. , E.C.: 36.5 . 3 bars left at 282.1 mis.. Took 7.724 gals. . 4 Blizzak WS 70 snows at 36 p.s.i..

[malibuguy]

got 44.38 on my last tank...it was only my 4th tank of gas in the car since new

[malibuguy]

48.68mpg last tank

[Hershey]

Filled the gas tank of the 2010 YARIS 3door w/ auto twice yesterday . Traveled over 300 mis..

1st fill : ECO : 36.8 , Calc.: 36.38 . 1 blinking bar left at 356.9 mis.. One click of nozzle : 9.808 gals. of SUNOCO 87 octane w/ 10% ethanol .

Second fill : ECO: 42.2 , Calc. 41.63 m.p.g.. Was 1.864 gallons of VALERO 87 w/ 10% ethanol at 1 click . One bar lost at 77.6 mis..

D.I.Y. oil change of SHELL full synthetic 5w-30 ( SN/GF-5 ) on 3/17 . 4 non studded Blizzak WS 70 snows at 36 p.s.i..

[malibuguy]

i don't do the one click at the pump...i just fill till it shuts off itself.

i've been averaging 99-115miles for the first "line" to go out

[JRED10]

My gauge moved off "F" over 100 miles.
Just filled it tonight. It was at 380 miles and took 9.7 gallons($3.59/gal). This is pretty impressive. And the car only has about 400 miles on it. They supposedly "loosen" up and improve on mileage with "break-in".

[Hershey]

The overall gas mileage average for the 2010 3 door w/ auto and power package is 36.3 since its purchase on 1/12/2010 to present . Not so bad .

[Hershey]

Overall gas mileage for the '08 base model sedan w/ auto since new is 38.41 .

[rick996]

Overall gas mileage for 16,912 miles (since new) just hit an even 38 mpg. My last 2 tanks were 42.7 and 42.6 since I cut my highway speed to 55mph and started using DFCO. Before I was coasting down hills in neutral with the engine on. And..:thumbsup:..GasSavers.org just added "Hypermiler" to my badge. :thumbup:

[Mikeey01nzl]

Overall gas mileage for 16,912 miles (since new) just hit an even 38 mpg. My last 2 tanks were 42.7 and 42.6

:thumbup: Nice one Rick you should be proud of those numbers, they are excellent.

I only wish my wife could achieve anywhere near them, she's still hovering around the 36-37 mark.
Crickey there is only half a litre per 100k in it but....

[Idahotom]

I just returned from a very quick trip to Las Vegas and back, no hypermiling, on cruise the entire time, a couple of miles above the posted limit, and there were some 80 mph posted stretches! The rest posted 75 with some 65 around the bigger cities. Once there a little city driving. A little over 1100 miles in all....37.7 mpg average. Now back home, and in no hurry, it'll be my usual 40+ mpg.

My favorite route to town is a 45 mph posted highway, that I drive at 48 to 50, on cruise, and get 50+ mpg, my last motorcycle would do that, but it had no heater or other creature comforts!

[jstantherprsn]

I was getting like 35-36 mpg. After my mods I'm getting 41-42 mpg (80 highway - 20city driving).

I don't have a tach so I try to keep the car out of 1st or shift out of it by 10mph and I hardly ever down shift without coasting in neutral for a while. That's about as anal as I'll go for changing how I drive.
The things I did to the car were:

I switched out my spark plugs to ytterbium fusions electrodeless. That smoothed out the idle (as expected I put +2 plugs in all my cars). I cleaned all the contacts and everything before I put them in.

I used 3 dollar electronics contact cleaner to clean the IAT/Mass sensor dual unit.

I then put the car on a synthetic oil program since I got it used. I used rislone and seafoam for the transition. I also put seafoam in the gas tank to clean the injectors. Changed filter and oil when I drained and put this stuff (seafoam and rislone) in, I also added 5w-30 to top if off. After another 500 I switched it out to a mix of 00-30 and 5w-40W full synthetic.

I also eventually changed the tranny oil. I picked up mt90 oil for the tranny (full synthetic), its brass safe and eliminates the sluggishness when driving on cold mornings till the gear box warms up. It also has all grip enhancers, etc.

Tires at 36psi rated for 40 psi.

Lastly rarely go above 67.

I have gone up to 80-85 for a duration of 120 miles and was tracking the mpg. I drop down to 37mpg. I have the 4 door sedan with stock steel 14" rims with all season replacement tires.

[BIGTAZ351]

I thought I was doing so good, 39.4 avg my last couple of tanks, 1300mi on the car as of now, my pickup that only gets driven on weekends NOW only got 18-19 on good tanks. I work second shift (2:30-11), and I drive slow and careful at night (darn deer). My 100 mile round trip, starts with 15 miles of back roads at 55 mph, then freeway at 70mph for 35mi, then the return trip is backwards except I slow to 65 on the freeway, and 50 on the back roads. The only thing I miss..I had extra "deer lights" that came on with high beam on the pickup, I have not added any to the Yaris yet, but when it warms up outside I'll be all over that!
You guys are getting Awesome MPGs!
but I have the dog-o-matic too!

[malibuguy]

i drove to VIR (300miles away) beating the snot out of my car & actually topped it out on the speed limiter @ 115mph, did mostly 80 down there...i got 41mpg

I love this car!!! my normal "calm" commutes result in EASY upper 40s, 46,47,48mpg & i am using EOC when i can

my tercel used to get bottom 40s when it still had a longer trans in it...now it gets upper 30s playing around & on the road coruse i get just over 16mpg, LOL i love that little bastard

[malibuguy]

50.66 last tank

[STC]

50.66 last tank

Congrats... :clap:

Cheers! :smile:

[malibuguy]

thanks!! i thought i had a bad tank cuz i had some running around BS on there which usually results in mid 40s...but i guess with monday being pretty hot, the warm air helped

[malibuguy]

49.4...last tank

http://ecomodder.com/forum/fe-graphs/graph4687.gif

[fatlard]

47.01mpg last tank

[caper26]

2010, brand new. 6.062L - 77.1 km (from dealership to home and some errands)...filled up due to unexpected road trip...drove 511 km on 29.159 L in NS, Canada. Heres the details:....very hilly total trip. Left home just after 1 pm. 1st 30 mins or so in traffic, 80 zone, speed between 60-80 km/hr and made a stop (too much coffee). Got on highway (100-110 km.hr), tried to keep tac ~ 3K rpm in 5th (manual). about 1/2 hr later, entered 80 km/hr zone for 45 mins, but was doing 100-110. Got back on twin highway (110 km/hr zone) and tried to keep it at about 128-ish as much as possible. After 15-20 mins, made quick stop hoping for food....too many people at counter, so got back on road. Entered single lane a ways later: back to 120 when possible...not much traffic. Some time after this, hit some reduced speeds 60 (did 70-80)....back to 100 (did 120-130), then little later, 50; then 100km/hr at 5:02. 5:18 down to 50 through town, back to 80 rest of trip until 6:30. Tried to keep speeds about 20-30 above speed limit in these areas.
During the whole trip, I accelerated slowly and geared down when possible. I made few "agressive passes" when I had to WOT in 4th. Arrived as gas stop at 6:30. (5.5 hrs total)
When I crunch the numbers, I get 5.702 L per 100km, which is pretty much exactly the published spec by toyota. What mpg are you guys using? imp or US? Imperial I calc around 49.5-ish mpg. From what I read, this is not bad with a brand new car, going these speeds, on very hilly terrain, with 3 stops. It cost me total $39.39 CAD (511 kms @ $1.35.1) Used to cost me 30-something for first 2 hrs alone, in my Xterra...loving my ride :headbang:

[STC]

^ congrats! :clap:

[caper26]

thanks! I tried joining gassavers.org or whatever, and never received e-mail with activation code :( so I am going to be writing everything down for now until I can get an account somewhere online to keep all the stats...an other recommendations?

[malibuguy]

^ www.ecomodder.com

easy to use

& congrats on the mileage!!!

[Nahtorious]

Hey,

I have a quick question. I filled up my tank in my 2007 Yaris sedan and can only get around 450 kms out of it. I drive normally, no racing or anything, but i do a lot of highway driving. approx 40 kms a day to and from work. Am i doing something wrong?

Also, i noticed that when i got 100 km/hr on the highway i'm reving at 3000 rpms. Isn't that a little high? i've been in V8 cars that idle at around 1500 - 2000 rpms. Is this something i should have inspected or is it normal?

[caper26]

auto or manual? My 2010 5 spd revs at 3000 rpm going ~117 km/hr in 5th, and I got 511 kms with 3 bars left on gas guage, various speed highways (see above).

EDIT: Made a typo on this post. Fixed it now.

[Nahtorious]

It's an automatic. i get about 100kms per 2 bars.

[malibuguy]

the bars "wear" of at different rates, the 3rd to last bar for me goes typically over 100miles

[Nahtorious]

Ok cool, i just filled my tank up to the max, and i'm gonna be driving like an old granny for a while to see if it makes any dramatic difference. SPEED LIMIT! HERE I COME! lol.

[caper26]

It's an automatic. i get about 100kms per 2 bars.

I got 144 kms before first bar went out

[caper26]

^ www.ecomodder.com

easy to use

& congrats on the mileage!!!

Well, I am in Canada, so this is not easy to use for me unfortunately, since I have to use a few conversion calculators to even enter my data... Are there any sites which use liters and kilometers??

[Nahtorious]

I got 144 kms before first bar went out

Not bad man, how'd you pull that one off? I just started driving easy and my second bar just vanished at 266kms. I got some more figuring out to do, but so far i'm happy with that.

[marcus]

Not bad man, how'd you pull that one off? I just started driving easy and my second bar just vanished at 266kms. I got some more figuring out to do, but so far i'm happy with that.

266km on second bar???? you sure you got that right most i had 230 but 100% hwy going 90 km/hr average right now is about 180 for second bar 190 on summer.

[TLyttle]

Why on earth would you guys depend on any data from the fuel gauge? In particular, distance for the "first bar"?? The only thing that matters is how much actual mileage one gets from fillup to fillup! I got 640kms with 3 bars still showing on the gauge, then it ran out of gas; time to change fuel gauge, not brag about getting all those kms on 3/4 of a tank. Think it out...

[malibuguy]

Why on earth would you guys depend on any data from the fuel gauge? In particular, distance for the "first bar"?? The only thing that matters is how much actual mileage one gets from fillup to fillup! I got 640kms with 3 bars still showing on the gauge, then it ran out of gas; time to change fuel gauge, not brag about getting all those kms on 3/4 of a tank. Think it out...

i just mention what i consistently see in my car...when the last one flashes i have just over a gallon left, consistent as a brick

[Nahtorious]

266km on second bar???? you sure you got that right most i had 230 but 100% hwy going 90 km/hr average right now is about 180 for second bar 190 on summer.

Yeah, now that i look at what i wrote, i probably took that information down wrong. lol. my mistake. But up to date... right now i'm at 460kms with 3 bars left.... the 3rd last bar should be disappearing soon, probably in another 10-20kms or so. I have a pic, but it's on my bb and i'm not sure how to upload it.

[Nahtorious]

On another note... i was wondering, if i drop a supercharger in my 07 yaris sedan, does anyone know how much that would hinder my gas milage?

[malibuguy]

^ it depends on your driving habits, but you'll probably see at least 10% drop

[STC]

Spring gas must be here... :smile:

I made 49.329 MPG last fill-up on 4/29. This was using ethanol gas (up to 10%) here in PA. Hopefully, I can make 50 + miles this summer using ethanol. To date all my 50 MPG a tanks where using the non-ethanol gas. The next fill-up I will be calculating a trip in my readings... :biggrin:

Cheers! :smile:

[rick996]

I don't think I'll ever hit 50 MPG on a tank. :frown:

I did learn a new trick though. It's starting to get warm with all the glass causing the "greenhouse effect" inside the car. I leave the fan on and set to recirculate. When I go down a hill I hit the AC button while in DFCO and then turn it back off before I touch the gas. It gives me a little burst of cool that helps quite a bit. :thumbsup:

[Spahrticus]

Mine is horrible... However, I feel like it's wonderful when I compare to my M3 which is 15-25MPG and $60 to fill up...

[ecc_33]

just got 46mpg this morning on a full tank :D im happy with that

[MattS.]

I figured 32 mpg on the dealer tank with town/hwy miles combined. I am on the second tank now, but let my daughter drive on her learner's permit to get some practice. I'm sure that will not help much.... I hope to improve on overall mpg once I get it broken in, and learn more fuel efficient driving habits. I'll SOMETIMES miss my Wrangler I just traded in on my new Yaris ;)

[dtbrown]

How are people getting over 40mph on their cars? Seems like the newer models get better gas mileage. I have an 07.

[rick996]

How are people getting over 40mph on their cars? Seems like the newer models get better gas mileage. I have an 07.

Look at the stickies in this section and go to the very beginning where most of the tips are. I got my biggest improvement from DFCO (2nd sticky). :smile:

[2009BBPliftback]

Trying a new driving style and got 41mpg on my last tank I'm going to raise the tire pressure in the near future. Anyone get any mileage improvements with high end spark plugs?

[Idahotom]

43.94 mpg on my latest tank, now I have to wait a long while before I get to fillup again! I actually look forward to filling up, how sick is that?

50/50 mix of freeway (65 mph TOPS) , secondary, and less then secondary roads, straight gas no ethanol ever.

[STC]

43.94 mpg on my latest tank, now I have to wait a long while before I get to fillup again! I actually look forward to filling up, how sick is that?

50/50 mix of freeway (65 mph TOPS) , secondary, and less then secondary roads, straight gas no ethanol ever.

It would be nice if pure gas was still available in PA... I miss it! :frown:

Cheers! :smile:

[thebarber]

ive been tracking my economy the last couple tanks since getting the s/c installed

first tank, 7.77L/100km (30.2mpg)....a week of city commuting in cold (almost freezing) weather and a romp from kitchener to mississauga (45min) and back doing about 125kph (85mph)

last tank was 6.86L/100km (34.3mpg) which was a week of city commuting (warmer weather now...about 10C in the mornings and a drive from kitchener to niagara falls (1.5h), niagara falls to burlington (45min), burlington to kitchener (45min) doing about 110kph (70mph)

both tanks had intermittent romping on the s/c for fun...moreso on the last tank since i was w/o wife and/or child for most of my trip...

[bkrownd]

How are people getting over 40mph on their cars? Seems like the newer models get better gas mileage. I have an 07.

Manual transmission, no road rage, rural roads, and thinking ahead. I live in a semi-rural area, and we have broad shallowly sloped mountainsides where you can coast on the downhill leg for miles. I drive the same handful of roads weekly, and know how to get the most out of them. Also, 45-50 MPH highway speeds are normal here. I'm currently averaging about 45 MPG on my car's 1 year birthday.

[caper26]

266km on second bar???? you sure you got that right most i had 230 but 100% hwy going 90 km/hr average right now is about 180 for second bar 190 on summer.

yeah, I got 231 km lol all highway on 2 bars...


Is everyone here talking MPG in US or IMP ???

[daf62757]

yeah, I got 231 km lol all highway on 2 bars...


Is everyone here talking MPG in US or IMP ???

MPG!

[yaryarbing]

Just travelled from Ohio to Maryland over the Appalachian range and hit 56 MPG on the tank.

45-55 mph on the upside of the range.
55-65 mph on the downhill slide.

Made the most of the DFCO with P&G tactics. Not a bad start for a new Yaris owner and completely new to hypermiling!

[bkrownd]

Just travelled from Ohio to Maryland over the Appalachian range and hit 56 MPG on the tank.


Wow, I've only reached 50 even in ideal conditions.

[why?]

Wow, I've only reached 50 even in ideal conditions.

getting to go downhill for long stretches helps gas mileage immensely.

[malibuguy]

thats pretty badass

[Hershey]

The ECO is about 1 m.p.g. less than the calculated gas mileage , could very well be 42 m.p.g.. Set at 94 , have to reset to 95 . Mostly 2 people , tires at 35 p.s.i. , VALERO 87 w/ 10% ethanol , and average speed of 50 . Not bad , so far . This is the '08 auto sedan .

[bkrownd]

getting to go downhill for long stretches helps gas mileage immensely.

those are the ideal conditions I'm referring to. :) I usually drive up the mountainside in the morning and coast downhill in the evening.

[Hershey]

Same here , about 2 mile climb up a very steep hill 5 or somtimes 6 days out of the week .

[Hershey]

The car got 40.77 m.p.g. calculated , while the ECO read 40.6 . Going to leave the ECO at 94 . That way it's actually doing better than the ECO overall m.p.g. display . It took 8.621 gallons of SUNOCO 87 w/ 10% ethanol at 1 click . The trip A was 351.5 miles . New Continental Pro Contact Eco Plus tires set at 35 p.s.i. . Rides , handles much better and a bit quieter with these tires . Gas mileage seems to be the same as witht the Potenza RE 92 .

[STC]

Filled up Friday the 13th! Pleased that I was able to break 50 MPG the first time with ethanol gas. I had a 300 + mile trip on this tank! :smile:

Gas Tank mile increments (ethanol gas used):
1st Bar drop (8/8) > 120 mi (120)
2nd Bar drop (7/8) > 60 mi (180)
3rd Bar drop (3/4) > 60 mi (240)
4th Bar drop (5/8) > 60 mi (300)
5th Bar drop (1/2) > 65 mi (365)
6th Bar drop (3/8) > 50 mi (415)
7th Bar drop (1/4) > 70 mi (485)
8th Bar drop (1/8) > 0 mi (485)

Tank total : 485 miles
Fuel used: 9.195 gallons
MPG: 52.746

Cheers! :smile:

[malibuguy]

got 51.98mpg last tank...i kinda killed some of it on my last commute home, i kinda had to rush to catch a store before it closed & i got out of work late...but this proves the car prefers the stock exhaust for best fuel economy

[why?]

got 51.98mpg last tank...i kinda killed some of it on my last commute home, i kinda had to rush to catch a store before it closed & i got out of work late...but this proves the car prefers the stock exhaust for best fuel economy

Compared to what? I can pretty much guarantee there are exhausts out there that will get better gas mileage. And then there is always Unobtanium.:tongue:

[STC]

got 51.98mpg last tank...i kinda killed some of it on my last commute home, i kinda had to rush to catch a store before it closed & i got out of work late...but this proves the car prefers the stock exhaust for best fuel economy

Very nice, malibuguy! :clap:

I took a 300+ trip on that gas fill (52.746 MPG) and drove 45-50 MPH on rural highways and some open interstates. I was suprised that I was able to get over 50 MPG on the tank using ethanol now. With all my other + 50's I was using non-ethanol. I changed my driving technique a bit to compensate for the loss of energy using ethanol gas. I also use a stabilizer for the ethanol...1/2 to 1 oz. You get around 1-3 MPG less using ethanol blend than RBOB gas. On this present tank I'm taking another shorter trip this week. So far my first 'bar' I got 120 mi and the second was 70 mi! Better than last fill-up. We will see if I can get two in a row... :biggrin:

Cheers! :smile:

[malibuguy]

Compared to what? I can pretty much guarantee there are exhausts out there that will get better gas mileage. And then there is always Unobtanium.:tongue:

compared to the 49 & 50mpg i was getting in better conditions with my custom full exhaust...when your barely using any throttle & staying below 2700rpm...your not pushing that much airflow

i thought i was going to pick up mainly from running a 100cell race cat versus the 2 400cell cats our cars get...i guess i was wrong

that being said...the car was definetly faster on the top end the few times i did floor it with my custom exhaust...but i didn't buy this car to race it

[why?]

compared to the 49 & 50mpg i was getting in better conditions with my custom full exhaust...when your barely using any throttle & staying below 2700rpm...your not pushing that much airflow

i thought i was going to pick up mainly from running a 100cell race cat versus the 2 400cell cats our cars get...i guess i was wrong

that being said...the car was definetly faster on the top end the few times i did floor it with my custom exhaust...but i didn't buy this car to race it

Ah, that is not surprising then. Most exhausts around are meant for the high end, just like most other go fast goodies. Finding parts that will help the low end for a car like ours isn't easy.

[malibuguy]

i was thinking about switching out my main muffler for a DynoMax VT valved muffler...but fuck it, i'm just going to keep the car stock

[Idahotom]

Same here , about 2 mile climb up a very steep hill 5 or somtimes 6 days out of the week .

Also same here. I routinely can drive into Inkom and get 70+ mpg, it's 1,000' below. It's that long pull back up to get home that gets less then 20 mpg. Still, when I get home, it's in the 40's.

[NZ-FE Vios]

Owned the car for less than two weeks, I had a small opportunity to test out nearly all Highway mpg, I tried to stay below 2500rpm and managed

119.7miles at 2.366gallons = 50.59mpg

[why?]

i was thinking about switching out my main muffler for a DynoMax VT valved muffler...but fuck it, i'm just going to keep the car stock

odds are everything in the market is going to hurt the bottom end. I think there was an intake that actually added to the bottom end, but that's it. Odds are everything else is going to hurt gas mileage without thousands of hours of research and development.

[tire]

2007 Yaris Sedan (base) auto (gross) 55k mi
37.34 mpg 30% street, 70% highway

[malibuguy]

odds are everything in the market is going to hurt the bottom end. I think there was an intake that actually added to the bottom end, but that's it. Odds are everything else is going to hurt gas mileage without thousands of hours of research and development.


your telling me stuff i already know, i do this for a living :cool:

[sickpuppy1]

Woohoo, a new best for me. I try a little, but not too much and got 43.88 last tank. Way to Ruby!!( Cars name....Mediterranean Mica red, in Kansas..kinda looks like ruby slipper.....)

[rick996]

Woohoo, a new best for me. I try a little, but not too much and got 43.88 last tank. Way to Ruby!!( Cars name....Mediterranean Mica red, in Kansas..kinda looks like ruby slipper.....)

I just got a new best too, 43.6. :thumbsup: I think the summer gas blend is helping.

I started out just wanting to average 40 MPG but when I see what some others are getting I want MORE. :evil: It will take a while to get my lifetime average up to 40.

[TLyttle]

Just got back from a long trip, mountainous terrain, not many passed us. 500km on 27l of fuel, 3 tanks. I'm happy with the mileage, thanks.

[sickpuppy1]

Guess I should post so I can see my avg now. didnt look at gassavers.org when I put the fil up in,lol

[malibuguy]

i wanna know how you guys are getting low 40s...i literally have to drive the crap out of mine to get low 40s...

[rick996]

i wanna know how you guys are getting low 40s...i literally have to drive the crap out of mine to get low 40s...

So do I, even as far of using the A/C only going downhill when in DFCO. I don't know what to do to get more. :iono:

[why?]

i wanna know how you guys are getting low 40s...i literally have to drive the crap out of mine to get low 40s...

So do I, even as far of using the A/C only going downhill when in DFCO. I don't know what to do to get more. :iono:

Think about hypermiling. Then do it, with zero regard to safety or speed minimums or anything else.

The top few guys here drive like 99.99% of people would never even dream of, never mind actually want to.

It is unrealistic for most people in most situations, as 1 lives in an extremely rural area, and another drives through extremely mountainous regions every day.

Getting over 40 mpg is a great achievement in this car without modifications.

[rningonfumes]

What do you mean zero regard for minimum speeds? or Safety?

I can break 45mpg without a thought. I drive in a relatively populated suburban area with relatively flat ground. I'm not showing off the 45. 45 was what I got before I knew anything about hypermiling. It's the number I hit when I first got the car. And 45 is what led me to googling everything up, that and at the time Bryan (up north) was posting rather consistently. I don't remember his handle- he is the one who drives in the mountains.

If you're driving while pretending that there is a CHP Officer watching your every move, ie within the law, you will break 45.

Lastly I do understand that people in more colder regions have more trouble. So make it 40 for you guys.

*gets off his soap box.

[TLyttle]

We have nothing BUT mountains around here, still mileage is fine. I don't hypermile, my only concession to FE is higher pressure in the tires.

Another problem is the BS factor; not us, but them. Anyone driving another make of vehicle that claims our FE is likely cheating or lying; either way, depend on their claim being untrue. NOBODY in our neighbourhood is getting as good FE as we are.

If you aren't getting the mileage you expected, either there is something wrong with your car, or your driving techniques, simple as that.

[sickpuppy1]

I have my tires set at 40psi and on the highway I do right at 70 sometimes a little less, sometime more. I even have a sub in the trunk (OK,its a 8" one, but still the box and amp and such weight 20+ pounds) and an amp for the fronts too. The only area that I see I do different than I used to, is around town. I am very conscious of how I take off at a light and acceleration in general. I take it very easy on the pedal. "Smooth as butta" The egg between foot and pedal kinda driving. I think any small car can do much better when driven like that. Remember...all those drivers with V6 and V8's have lots of torque on the low end. We dont, so if you are trying to stay up with them, your mileage takes a bigger hit since our litte gutless wonders have to work much harder to stay up with the pace. They are loafing while ours are working harder, percentage wise. I say, let them do their thing and I'll do mine. I figure I'll end up passing them up anyways since they'll be stopping at the pump much more often. I could hit 45mpg or higher probably if I slowed down on the highway some more, but I choose not too. Maybe some fill up I'll try to do no higher than 65 and see what happens. But that, for me would be hard....

[yaryarbing]

I quickly learned that the most effective means of breaking the hurdle from low 40's mpg to high 40's mpg was speed. I get better mileage when I quickly (but not too quick!) accelerate to cruising speed (speed limit) and maintain, with uphill climbs as the only exception. Uphill requires a soft foot and a reduction in speed, depending on the grade of the climb. When I drove too conservatively, afraid of accelerating to get to cruising speed, I could not break above the low 40's for mpg. It takes some short term sacrifice of fuel to get to the most FE gear and speed to maximize overall mpg.

Scangauge or similar real time mpg device is a must.

No cheating, no below minimum mph driving, no rolling stops through intersections, no safety violations.

Eastern Maryland is anything but flat. Rolling hills abound. It's all about taking advantage of the terrain given.

I drive an AT sedan and am able, with vigilance, to maintain high 40's MPG. I make it a fun game and don't take it too seriously.

[malibuguy]

i just got my 5th tank that i averaged 50+ mpg on & that was with A/C use

[devinlamothe]

I don't know WTF happened but my last tank I got 45.7MPG. That was with racing around town like a mofo and also using A/C.

I did recently switch to a K&N filter and also used Gumout ... but I don't think that could change my mileage that much. Before this I was getting around 35MPG all the time.

[malibuguy]

^ enjoy! hahaha

[why?]

What do you mean zero regard for minimum speeds? or Safety?

I can break 45mpg without a thought. I drive in a relatively populated suburban area with relatively flat ground. I'm not showing off the 45. 45 was what I got before I knew anything about hypermiling. It's the number I hit when I first got the car. And 45 is what led me to googling everything up, that and at the time Bryan (up north) was posting rather consistently. I don't remember his handle- he is the one who drives in the mountains.

If you're driving while pretending that there is a CHP Officer watching your every move, ie within the law, you will break 45.

Lastly I do understand that people in more colder regions have more trouble. So make it 40 for you guys.

*gets off his soap box.

It was especially aimed at STC, who admits he drives 45 mph on roads with 65 mph speed limits, in an extremely rural area, which he says has almost zero traffic.

But anyone that consistently gets 45+ mpg in this car drives like few would even know how to, never mind want to. Y'all drive slower than everyone else, and that is simply the truth. I am simply explaining to people who think these are fake numbers.

Now that is your choice, and I congratulate you on getting great gas mileage. I've hit 44 mpg. I know what it takes. I also know 99% of the population simply has no interest in driving like that. I know I don't anymore. I get 36-37 mpg consistently and I am fine with that.

All you need to do is read what some of the hyper milers write on their boards to know they don't drive safely. They take perverse joy in being road hazards, and twistedly justify it by saying they are more important because they are doing it for great gas mileage. Bragging about driving half the speed limit on highways and the like is not safe driving, no matter how you cut it.

[malibuguy]

^ um fuck off cuz i'm a hypermiler & i'm not a road hazard & shit i'm getting 50+ doing usually 10 over the speed limit

don't pigeon hole the rest of us cuz one guy drives stupid

now i'll admit i'll drive slower sometimes if there is no traffic, but usually i'm with traffic, or passing them

[STC]

It was especially aimed at STC, who admits he drives 45 mph on roads with 65 mph speed limits, in an extremely rural area, which he says has almost zero traffic.

But anyone that consistently gets 45+ mpg in this car drives like few would even know how to, never mind want to. Y'all drive slower than everyone else, and that is simply the truth. I am simply explaining to people who think these are fake numbers.

Now that is your choice, and I congratulate you on getting great gas mileage. I've hit 44 mpg. I know what it takes. I also know 99% of the population simply has no interest in driving like that. I know I don't anymore. I get 36-37 mpg consistently and I am fine with that.

All you need to do is read what some of the hyper milers write on their boards to know they don't drive safely. They take perverse joy in being road hazards, and twistedly justify it by saying they are more important because they are doing it for great gas mileage. Bragging about driving half the speed limit on highways and the like is not safe driving, no matter how you cut it.

Yeah, my 200 mi area in central PA is very rural. I drive at least 50 MPH in 65 MPH Interstates and 45 to 50 MPH in 55 MPH Interstates. The 50 MPH is the legal national limit on 65 MPH Interstates. On State rural road speed limits of 40, 45, 50... I drive the limit. When I drive to the bigger cities of Allentown, Harrisburg, Scranton, Reading, Philly, Pittsburgh... I do drive at the speed limit when I'm in the city vicinity. I rarely drive to the cities. All my friends live in cow pasture towns of central PA... :biggrin:

I'm very conscious with my surroundings. I'm a hypermiler, but the techniques I follow in no way jeopardizes mine or others safety on the road. I've never done hypermiling techniques of shutting the car off while driving. That is dangerous to yourself and others. It is all common sense driving. Mind you, very very easy driving....


I just got another 50+ MPG filling the tank from 'click' to 'click' this morning. The 50 + was with Exxon gas. I filled up with Shell this time. I'm taking two rural trips this weekend... we'll see if I can make 50+ again?

Gas Tank mile increments (ethanol gas used):
1st Bar drop (8/8) > 120 mi (120)
2nd Bar drop (7/8) > 70 mi (190)
3rd Bar drop (3/4) > 55 mi (245)
4th Bar drop (5/8) > 55mi (300)
5th Bar drop (1/2) > 70 mi (370)
6th Bar drop (3/8) > 65 mi (435)
7th Bar drop (1/4) > 65 mi (500)
8th Bar drop (1/8) > 0 mi (500)

Tank total : 500 miles
Fuel used: 9.700 gallons
MPG: 51.546

Cheers! :smile:

[Hershey]

41.4 m.p.g. calculated w/ the '08 sedan auto . ECO read 39.9 m.p.g. . Like it to show lower overall average , that way we know it's doing better than what the ECO displays .

[ecc_33]

im getting around 42mpg with the A/C blasting. im happy cause i drive fast

[Idahotom]

Now that winter and winter fuel is gone, I had my first tank of 45 plus, 45.97 to be exact, going by the same pump at the same station, real gas BTW. 5-sp.

[malibuguy]

i had a great tank going

then i got stuck in some bullshit traffic-light inspired traffic when i went to the junkyard the other day...& got a 50.47 my last tank, i was fucking pissed I know i was on a 53 maybe 54 tank on that one all my mileage per fuel levels were 15-20mile more than usual

this new current tank is ruined cuz i've been driving like a jackass

[sickpuppy1]

While not as good as yours. I was enthused about the mileage from this weekend. Went to lake of the Ozarks and got 43.6 mpg on the way odwn and 46.6 on the way back. both new records for me. 2010 sedan. 2 overweight adults with luggage and coolers doing 65-70 most of the time.
Had about 90-100m miles of 2 lane blacktop that was slower, but also twisty turning too,(love my rear sway bar,lol)

[Woodsman]

Did a mileage check on Saturday. Less than ideal conditions.
2010 3dr hatchback with 12,000 km ( just under 7,500 miles)
Aprox. 90% highway. First half of the trip in a heavy rain storm average speed 80 kph (50 mph). Return trip mostly sunny with average speed of 110 kph (just under 70 mph).
About 700 lbs of passengers & cargo.
Total distance - 405.8 km or 252.2 miles.
Fuel used - 23.681 litres/5.21 Imp gals/6.21 US gals.
Results - 5.8 litres per 100km/48.41 mpg(Imp)/40.31 mpg (US)

[malibuguy]

i'm onto a good tank

118.9miles when the first bar went off...i'm usually in the 90s

[STC]

I filled-up my tank this morning... click to click with Shell ethanol gas on the same pump as a couple weeks ago. I'm starting to like Shell gas :smile:

Gas Tank mile increments (ethanol gas used):
1st Bar drop (8/8) > 135 mi (135)
2nd Bar drop (7/8) > 60 mi (195)
3rd Bar drop (3/4) > 55 mi (250)
4th Bar drop (5/8) > 60mi (310)
5th Bar drop (1/2) > 60 mi (370)
6th Bar drop (3/8) > 65 mi (435)
7th Bar drop (1/4) > 75 mi (510)
8th Bar drop (1/8) > 0 mi (510)

Tank total : 510 miles
Fuel used: 9.666 gallons
MPG: 52.762

Cheers! :smile:

[STC]

^ Correction! I got confused. It was two different brands. Exxon was the last fill... the fill prior was Shell. Shell fill-up this this morning. I'm filling with shell after this tank on the same pump.

Cheers! :smile:

[malibuguy]

i was an exxon man cuz i had a very convenient one on the way to work, but it shut down, so i go to shell now also...

my 2nd bar went out at 205.7 & my 3rd 281.3

[STC]

i was an exxon man cuz i had a very convenient one on the way to work, but it shut down, so i go to shell now also...

my 2nd bar went out at 205.7 & my 3rd 281.3

Yes... I like Exxon and Shell. I get the best mileage from using their gas! Excellent job on your 2nd and 3rd bar mileage readings!

Cheers! :smile:

[malibuguy]

4th bar- 331.6
5th bar- 395.4
6th bar-475.7

filled up at 503.9, used 9.355 gallons

53.86 MPG!

that was with A/C use

[yaryarbing]

Very Nice, malibuguy.

With AC running during our Maryland heat wave, I pulled 50 mpg out of my '07 ATX sedan.

I ran 545 miles on the tank. 10.9 gallon fill. :thumbup:

[rick996]

Just had by best tank yet. An even 45.0 MPG. I think that's the best I can do. :smile:

[Hershey]

42333 401.8 miles and a blinking bar . Took 10.05 gallons . So , calculation of 39.98 m.p.g. overall . We have ECO set little lower so we know it's doing better than what it displays . This is the 4 speed automatic .

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Driving pretty hard this tank (smashing it around town and on the freeway, shifting much later than I normally shift, etc), and some AC usage. SGII is reading 36.1 mpg for my afe (average fuel economy). I set the SGII to read a little worse than what it actually is, so I'm thinking it's really ~37 mpg.

[bkrownd]

I just broke 50 for the first time this weekend. Two round trips from Hilo across the summit of Kilauea and back, plus lots of noodling around the Kilauea summit and Ka'u Desert roads. About 50 stops (engine off/on) during that noodling, as well. (150 miles total) :D

[matthewai]

for an auto transmish will putting the car into neutral and coasting to a stop save a little gas ive always done this maybe not all the time but most of the time (i havent searched anything on this so i dont know)

[bkrownd]

If you know what you're doing it can save fuel in the right situations, but rolling in neutral with an automatic transmission could potentially also put you in trouble if the engine stalls while you're coasting. More of a problem with a heavy SUV (been there, done that) than a Yaris, but it's something to keep in mind.

[malibuguy]

when your in neutral you don't get fuel cut off

[matthewai]

yeah i didnt say "get fuel cut off" i said to save a little but i guess thats how you interpreted that thanks great job!

[malibuguy]

51.22mpg last tank with a/c

[Hershey]

Got 41.69 m.p.g. calculated . This is a '08 base model sedan w/ auto . The ECO showed 40.9 , have it set lower . Tires set at 34.5 and 87 with 10% ethanol .

[bkrownd]

when your in neutral you don't get fuel cut off

But you DO conserve your hard-earned momentum.

[malibuguy]

But you DO conserve your hard-earned momentum.

Thats for sure...but one still maintains momentum when doing engine off coasting

[DonnieMarko]

Got a 1.3 JDm yaris F CVT.. have 185/70 tires..
normal driving, no aggressive stunts.. traffic moderate to heavy on daily 66km drive.
getting only 14km to the liter or 32 MPG..
what am I doing wrong here? or need to do to the car to get it to do some good miles

[malibuguy]

i dunno

i used to drive my mothers '07 dodge caliber for a 1/2 year a few years ago, thats a 2.0L CVT & was getting 32-34mpg while using A/C...& thats a much bigger & heavier vehicle

just try to minimize the CVT slip i guess with light throttle use

[Ilovemyyaris]

When I first bought my Yaris it had a full tank of gas. I got about ~55 mpg out of it "mostly highway". At first I didn't really believe it because the sticker said it should only get 29 to 35 mpg.

I noticed I got a lot less mpg when I filled up the tank with new gas. Maybe it's just the ethanol gas stations use down here? Because now I get about 35 to 40 mpg on average. Which is still better than what the sticker said. The Toyota dealership had to bring my car from another state because they didn't have anymore of the specific Yaris I wanted, so I guess they used real gas there.

Also I notice a slight difference between gas stations. I get better mpg when I use Chevron or Shell vs lesser known "non-name brand" gas stations. Although Shell can be more expensive than other brands.

[why?]

Got a 1.3 JDm yaris F CVT.. have 185/70 tires..
normal driving, no aggressive stunts.. traffic moderate to heavy on daily 66km drive.
getting only 14km to the liter or 32 MPG..
what am I doing wrong here? or need to do to the car to get it to do some good miles

change your driving style. There are a ton of tips in the fe forum, just browse over them all and you will get better gas mileage. Driving for gas mileage is a completely different beast and takes some time to get use to.

I have to commute over an hour to work now, and in this heat there is no way i am turning off my a/c. Worst tank of gas was 39 mpg with highway speeds right about 80 or so. When I give myself enough time to go slower I get better.

In general I am pretty sure neutral coasting will get you better gas mileage, however the hypermilers seem to believe you need to drop speeds around 20 mph to really see the benefits, while with DFCO you get automatic benefits. It depends on your driving style, I am too lazy right now to shift into neutral, so my mileage is with DFCO exclusively. DFCO also works well with my natural driving habits anways, having horrid depth perception seems to be a plus in this instance.

[TLyttle]

If fuel economy is youir goal, dump the 185s ASAP, and get a good set of 175s. MY 07 sedan really benefitted from the narrower tire, and more rigid walls helped also. Run a few pounds below max printed on the tire. Works for me...

[hitmoninfinity]

Hey guys, I'm wondering if you could give me some insight. I just got new tires and wheels for my 07 4 door. Ever since I'm getting at least 20-30 less miles per tank. I'm averaging about 325 miles per tank right now. I had steelies before, but the new wheels are the same size. I guess the new wheels are a little heavier but should they make that big of a difference?!

[goliath1812]

hmm, when I switched over to Konig Heliums (same size wheel) I didn't really notice a difference in MPG, even though the wheels should be much lighter than the steelies...

[TLyttle]

Not enough info, hitmon. Are the tires or wheels wider than the ones you were running before? Is the compound or tread design more aggressive than before? Did you change the pressure?

I'm not sure that lighter wheels/tires make much difference to MPG; handling I can believe, but I'm out on MPG difference.

I ran the stock junk tires out (that didn't take long), and bought Hankook mileage tires (not my original choice). Not much difference in handling or mileage once I took the pressure up a few pounds, and they do seem to be wearing much better.

Lots of variables that will change your fuel mileage drastically! Wide wheels eat gasoline, as do wide tires, soft compounds, and tread design. It takes gasoline to push wide, soft, noisy tires, simple as that...

[hitmoninfinity]

Not enough info, hitmon. Are the tires or wheels wider than the ones you were running before? Is the compound or tread design more aggressive than before? Did you change the pressure?

I'm not sure that lighter wheels/tires make much difference to MPG; handling I can believe, but I'm out on MPG difference.

I ran the stock junk tires out (that didn't take long), and bought Hankook mileage tires (not my original choice). Not much difference in handling or mileage once I took the pressure up a few pounds, and they do seem to be wearing much better.

Lots of variables that will change your fuel mileage drastically! Wide wheels eat gasoline, as do wide tires, soft compounds, and tread design. It takes gasoline to push wide, soft, noisy tires, simple as that...

The tires and wheels are the same size as before. Specs say the wheels weigh 17 lbs. Not sure what the steelies weigh. Tires are Yokohama AVID TOURING-S 32ish PSI.

Anyone have any ideas on what else might cause a sudden drop in MPG?

[malibuguy]

my last tank was 42.5mpg beating the fuck out of it & locating where the speed limiter kicks in

[rningonfumes]

lol! Ya, take one for the team.

[B789]

16.139878951 km per Liter of 87 Regular Gasoline from Petro Canada in my 2007 Yaris Sedan having 89,127 kms on odometer and 15" steel rims. Calculation Method used is 601.9 km in 37.175 Litres.

On average drove within/around speed limits. Journeys involved combined Highway and city with couple of times stop & go on Toronto Area freeways and 60% of the time Air Conditioner was on as well.

[Spidermandud]

^37.96 mpg

I had to look it up. :D

[malibuguy]

my last tank, 51.9 or .89 something like that

my best tank with the exhaust, but only i think my 3rd best overall

[Hershey]

'08 sedan w/ 4 speed auto . 40.63 m.p.g.. Tires at 35 p.s.i..

[RT_Smith]

'07 Sedan auto on 175/65R14's with 111,000km driving at ~105-110km/hr and 90+% highway and occasional A/C.

18.24km/liter or 52mpg

I find temperature makes a big difference. The warmer the better.

[RT_Smith]

That's on regular 87 octane Shell.

[rningonfumes]

Yes, I've found the same....the summer heat here in Cali is doing wonders for my mileage. Record breaking actually...personal records.

[Altitude]

my last tank was 42.5mpg beating the fuck out of it & locating where the speed limiter kicks in

You must be filling the feeder tube for the gas tank. I believe the 40+ figures for hyper milers - but not for someone that goes WOT all the time.

[goliath1812]

I really have to focus on how I drive to be able to get 40 or more...usually I come in around 39-41. My last tank, I tried non-ethanol gas and got 44.7. And now I've heard they want to put even more ethanol in the gas? Not looking forward to the bigger mpg drop when that happens.

[malibuguy]

You must be filling the feeder tube for the gas tank. I believe the 40+ figures for hyper milers - but not for someone that goes WOT all the time.

i let the pump click off....regaurdless how i fill wont change mpg as long as its the same every time


My last tank 53.01 my personal best with the exhaust...2nd best overall...i didnt particulary drive super efficient on this tank and drove in unmastered areas

[digitalrain]

Malibuguy, thx for the tip on the Mobil 0w20 on the other thread.

Just curious , but how much is the cost for a jug(4.5 qts) of the Mobil 0w20 in your area? It costs $48 here. I spend around $900 a year for gas and could save around 10% using the Mobil. So I'd be down a bit if I kept the twice a year oil and filter change sched. But that doesn't take into account possibly less wear on the engine due to using synth...

i let the pump click off....regaurdless how i fill wont change mpg as long as its the same every time


My last tank 53.01 my personal best with the exhaust...2nd best overall...i didnt particulary drive super efficient on this tank and drove in unmastered areas

[goliath1812]

Amsoil 0W-20 is $31.90 plus shipping for preferred customers on their site (preferred customers just have to pay a $10 membership for 6 months).

[malibuguy]

i pay about $7.80 a quart for the Eco oil & i run a Mobil 1 filter too

my previous to last tank was 52...my last tank was a road trip into the mountains...probably WOT most of the time, 44.11 mpg

[digitalrain]

I'm jst astounded by some of the numbers people get on this thread. I was impressed with what I had gotten for years in the Echo, but it's noticeably less than many here. I'm gonna let the engine loosen up and look after my undercoating and sway bar then try to hit some bigger MPG.

You must have a big grin every time you fill up at the gas station.:thumbsup:

i pay about $7.80 a quart for the Eco oil & i run a Mobil 1 filter too

my previous to last tank was 52...my last tank was a road trip into the mountains...probably WOT most of the time, 44.11 mpg

[DonnieMarko]

Still not getting any better than 34 Mpg..
no harsh driving.. just normal accel.. cant even hear the engine sometimes .
Am using the A/C intermittently .. turning it on after ive settled to cruise speed.

[Yaristeve]

Still not getting any better than 34 Mpg..
no harsh driving.. just normal accel.. cant even hear the engine sometimes .
Am using the A/C intermittently .. turning it on after ive settled to cruise speed.

Yeah... ditto. I usually don't get better than 37MPG per fill up (with mostly freeway miles and A/C on 90% of the time) and I am at about 37MPG over 24k miles. The best I got was about 40MPG but only one way going to Vegas from LA with cruise set to 70~75MPH...

My worst tank so far was the last one @ 34MPG. But that was because I was meandering through neighborhoods looking at houses for a quarter tank.

[The Limo]

Best tank 5.21 litres per 100 kilometres. Cruising down the highway at 100-110 km/h on a nice sunny day.

Worst tank 8.61 litres per 100 kilometres. Some city driving and highway driving in an ice and snow storm.

Average 6.10 litres per 100 kilometres for 90k kilometres.

Love my Yaris

Roy

[malibuguy]

You must have a big grin every time you fill up at the gas station.:thumbsup:

yes! i really feel like showing all the other people filling up the numbers just to rub it in, but i dont

[TLyttle]

Not me. I frequently find myself at the pumps beside some bozo with an all-decked-out dually pigup, and walk past him mumbling, "Damn, $34 to fill up again this month, that's twice..." just as his pump passes $125 or more...

But I'm naturally mean, and old enough so they don't pick a fight...

[digitalrain]

Too funny! Lucky you can get away with saying it. Scary it doesn't take much to fill $100 in a lot of vehicles these days.

Not me. I frequently find myself at the pumps beside some bozo with an all-decked-out dually pigup, and walk past him mumbling, "Damn, $34 to fill up again this month, that's twice..." just as his pump passes $125 or more...

But I'm naturally mean, and old enough so they don't pick a fight...

[malibuguy]

A tick under 52mpg last tank...without much effort sadly...but i think my rear toe is eating up some of it

[digitalrain]

I'm always amazed by your MPG figures. Just astounding. I believe that you may change over to a Mazda in the future to get even more eye popping numbers with their phenomenal Sky-Activ technology.

I just got a brand new Yaris a few weeks ago, but the Sky-Activ platform is just around the corner and it's a monstous game changer.

Toyota desparately needs someone , anyone that has a fun to drive gene in them ala Zoom Zoom...

A tick under 52mpg last tank...without much effort sadly...but i think my rear toe is eating up some of it

[malibuguy]

thanks!

i really need to update my ecomodder thingy...i have like 7 gas slips in my glovebox.

I view it as, save as much money doing my work commute, so i can have more money for the race car

[RcJosh]

ive been hitting low mpg, sometimes barely reaching 300 mi for a full tank

[malibuguy]

ive been hitting low mpg, sometimes barely reaching 300 mi for a full tank

I usually hit 300 miles before the 4th bar disappears haha

[Hershey]

2008 base model Yaris sedan w/ 4 speed auto :

E.M. (@ 95): 40.5
Calculated : 40.12

386.6 mis. ( trip B ) / 9.635 gals .

This was VALERO 87 w/E10 . Tires @ 36 .

[RcJosh]

mines 08 manual transmission drive all city sometimes 2 or 3 lights in a mile. last full tank of gas got me about 290 miles. get i just be driving it to hard? i like hittin the higher rpm's but not crazy

[padre1964]

45.1 on last tank. really want to hit 50 some day

[Hershey]

'08 base model YARIS sedan w/ 4 speed auto :

Eco-Meter : 41.2 m.p.g. overall ( set @ 95 )

Calculated : 42.13 m.p.g. ( 344.5 mis. / 8.176 gallons of VALERO 87 w/E10 )

This was during a tank of GULF 93 octane w /E10 and the new oil change of SHELL full synthetic 5w-20 (SN/GF-5 ) . Tires @ 36 P.S.I..

Pics :

[sickpuppy1]

My last tank w/2010 sedan Auto was 43.4mpg the two before that were like 40.2 and 40.2

[Hershey]

My last tank w/2010 sedan Auto was 43.4mpg the two before that were like 40.2 and 40.2 :clap:

[digitalrain]

Just curious,looking for comments from people that had their Yaris from brand new. Did you notice much of an improvement in fuel economy say from 500 miles to the 5000 mile mark where the engine should be broken in?

What was the one thing you did that made the biggest diff in your MPGs.

Thanks

[sickpuppy1]

Mine has gotten better with age so to speak. I have a little under 30k miles and the mileage has gotten better since 20k. I have to say that I'm not trying as hard now as I did the 1st 20k and it comes easier. I keep my foot out if it. when I was 1st really trying, I'd more or less pretend I had an egg under my foot. And I would get 37 to39 mpg. Maybe because now its second nature for me, But I find myself too often at 75mph on the way to work, and that makes a big difference. keeping at 70 or below is where its at! If I would just leave 5-7 minutes earlier I wouldnt need to rush at all and set the cruise at 65 I could do even better. I keep my tires at 40 psi. Rides better at 32-35 for sure! but mileage at 40 is noticeably better.

[digitalrain]

Sickpuppy1,

Thanks, I'll try bumping the tire pressure to 36 psi then maybe 38 and then 40 later on depending on the ride. I've also been driving very gently, like a pussy as one put it, in the city. I never go over 3000 rpm and quick shift to the next gear in the city.
The funny thing is on the freeway, I'm like you going at 120kmph(around 75MPH) 3000 rpm all the time and I get massively better mileage, even with the wind resistance and all.



Mine has gotten better with age so to speak. I have a little under 30k miles and the mileage has gotten better since 20k. I have to say that I'm not trying as hard now as I did the 1st 20k and it comes easier. I keep my foot out if it. when I was 1st really trying, I'd more or less pretend I had an egg under my foot. And I would get 37 to39 mpg. Maybe because now its second nature for me, But I find myself too often at 75mph on the way to work, and that makes a big difference. keeping at 70 or below is where its at! If I would just leave 5-7 minutes earlier I wouldnt need to rush at all and set the cruise at 65 I could do even better. I keep my tires at 40 psi. Rides better at 32-35 for sure! but mileage at 40 is noticeably better.

[TLyttle]

Huh. Driving sensibly in Vancouver is quite an accomplishment in my eyes! That place is a madhouse...

I've driven my car since new (2007), and I can count on one hand when it has ever seen 5 grand, but I do NOT make it pull hard below 2,000. Cops around here hide like Waldo, so one never knows when to let loose. The only mods have been inflating the tires to 38lbs, and using MolySlip (Canadian product) in the engine. Long trips always pull ~60mpgImp; stop & go (we run a mail route, REALLY stop & go!) we never get below 35mpgImp. And I am not your average Old Coot driver, either...

[Bizlibati]

Being around the conventional part, my own appraisal will be 80+km(highway) or perhaps 60+km(city). My own statement will be that when an individual put things off, with concerning 20kms right after that starts off, the particular pulsating can be more quickly. When this occurs, then you've got to refill. The particular fish tank is supposed to carry 42l yet I've found out there you could load that together with 1 or 2 liters greater than 49. That is probably not a good idea to take action even though.

[docB]

A nice compromise for ride and mileage is 35 psi in the rear. Go 40-42 in the fronts. The car seems to stick better to the road this way in mho.
doc

[Hershey]

'08 base model sedan w/ 4 speed auto :

Eco-Meter : 40.0 ( set @ 95 )
Calculated : 41.05 ( 411.7 / 10.029 gals. )

The last bar started to blink just before the fill of SUNOCO 89 w/E10 at 1 click of nozzle . This tank was VALERO 87 w/E10 . Tires set at 37 . Engine oil is SHELL full synthetic 5w-20 . The engine really likes this oil , quite quiet . Reset Eco-Meter to 96 since it has been reading low .

[Hershey]

Eco-Meter : 40.4 ( @96 )
Calculated : 39.659 ( 405.8 mis. / 10.232 gals @ 1 click )

The ECO read higher at 96 . One blinking bar before fill . This tank was wet roads , 50s' for temps , winds up to 35 m.p.h. , and many steep hills . Tires at 35 and 2 riders for over 1/2 the tank . Possibly the winter blend . Refilled with VALERO 87 w/E10 .

[Yaristeve]

All you people who are getting into the 40s, do you use your A/C?

No matter what I do, I can't get more than 37MPG unless it is a long uninterrupted trip @70 or little less.

[malibuguy]

i used A/C & got upper 40s, low 50s

[malibuguy]

53.32mpg last tank

[padre1964]

I always get a consistant 43 mpg, mostly hwy and i keep it below 60 with a/c on. I have had one tank that was 27 mpg but i was driving at 85 mostly my whole trip.

[malibuguy]

^ i drove down to southern VA beating the hell out of the car & still got 41mpg...& a ticket...haha

[randeez]

first post!

hey guys , just picked up an '08 hatch m/t wenesday morning (yesterday). main appeal was the mpg i had hoped for so this thread is keeping hopes high. i've already put 270miles on the first tank just commuting to and for work. Dealer said they filled it up and I still have 3 bars left so i'm hoping i can knock down another 100miles before fill up with mostly highway driving 75-80ish and quite a bit of stop and go city driving. If i can get good mileage not even trying that would be great!

and nice forum, lots of good info guys

-randy

[malibuguy]

at 3 bars i'm usually already past 400 miles. don't drive so fast & upshift at 2000rpm with very moderate throttle. try to slow coast instead of stop & go as much as you can

[randeez]

yea the first tank i didn't really try to conserve at all...ran it 75-80 for most of the highway driving and probably had about 100miles of stop n go city/highway crawl driving so i'm not to disappointed. ended up gassing up at 326 miles and took just over 8.8 gallons=37mpg. i put another 190 miles on new tank today and just dropped into 5/8bars. i get paid mileage so it's all good either way, lol.
i already downshift/roll to lights try, keep moving, and hardly use the brakes but i have dropped highway cruise to around 70mph so we'll see how it works out. if i can consistantly get 40+mpg i'll be happy

[malibuguy]

Pump your tires up and run mobil 1 0-20 eco oil. My biggest gains were from those changes. I run my tires currently at 54psi...i suggest at least 40 for others

[randeez]

good tips malibu thanks again

[Hershey]

'08 base model Yaris sedan w/ 4 speed auto ;

Eco : 40.3 @ 96
Calc: 39.75 ( 251.4 mis. / 6.323 gals. )

4 bars left and switched ECO back to 95 so calculated mileage is hopefully higher than the ECO setting ,

[malibuguy]

47 & change my last tank...which involed 100+mph high speed driving for a bit of it...got pulled over too at 110mph...GOT A WARNING! phew!

[randeez]

finally got around to blowing up the tires, however they say max 40psi so thats where they're at. i've been trying to pay attention to some of my driving to see where i could improve and noticed a few things. one mainly is in town i'll leave it in 4th (under 45mph usually) same for getting off highway i'll usually drop it in 4th and 3rd and engine break it but then i'll drive around in that gear. i'm looking for a instrumentation cluster with a tach desperately. engine runs pretty smooth and i don't really notice if i've driving around in 3rd or 4th, till i go to downshift coming to a stop and realize i just drove 5 miles in 4th lol. and i think i'm going to do the cruise control mod pretty soon should help highway for sure. last couple tanks were 35-39mpg

[Hershey]

'08 base model sedan w/ 4 speed auto : Fill of VALERO 87 w/E10 on 11/5

Eco-Meter : 38.7 ( set @ 95 )
Calculated : 38.47 ( 298.5 mis. / 7.758 gals. @ 1 click )

3 bars left and tires set at 35 .

[malibuguy]

my mileage has gone to shit recently...i think MD switched to Winter fuel now. i'm only getting mid to upper 40s

time to get it back! stock exhaust is going back on & i'm going to build a hot air intake & i need to make some grille blocks

[Hershey]

'08 base sedan w/ 4 speed auto : 1 click of GULF 93 w/E10 . This tank of 39.25 m.p.g. was VALERO 87 w/E10 . Last bar started to blink not long before fill . Continental Pro Contact Eco Plus tires at 35 p.s.i.. SHELL full synthetic 5w-20 ( SN/GF-5 ) for oil .

Eco-Meter : 39.2 ( set @ 95 )
Calculator : 39.258 ( 398.2 mis. / 10.143 gals. )

[sickpuppy1]

Good timing catching that bar in between blinks,lol

[sickpuppy1]

I got a new set of Hanook H727, finally got rid of the Goodyear LS factory clunkers, and thought,I just filled up about 30 miles ago, so let me see how they do with standard 32 psi vs my normal 40 psi. So I did 38.8 mpg and thought, not bad! I got home after fill up and decided to go back to my 40psi to see what happens. Pulled out the trusty tire gauge and I'll be danged if they weren't all at 25 psi! I was ticked! Used both of my tire gauges to verify. Stupid installer! But it made me more impressed with the tires. Also explains part of why they rode so much smoother too,lol

[digitalrain]

How many miles did you wring out of the Goodyears? Pretty amazing MPGs for 25psi!

I got a new set of Hanook H727, finally got rid of the Goodyear LS factory clunkers, and thought,I just filled up about 30 miles ago, so let me see how they do with standard 32 psi vs my normal 40 psi. So I did 38.8 mpg and thought, not bad! I got home after fill up and decided to go back to my 40psi to see what happens. Pulled out the trusty tire gauge and I'll be danged if they weren't all at 25 psi! I was ticked! Used both of my tire gauges to verify. Stupid installer! But it made me more impressed with the tires. Also explains part of why they rode so much smoother too,lol

[Hershey]

Good timing catching that bar in between blinks,lol Here's the no bar and bar :biggrin: . As for tire pressure , always check the pressure after getting new tires or exchange of seasonal tires . Also , make sure the wheel covers are on correctly and snug . Usually do these right at the dealer lot . One time the salesman seen me checking tire pressure and says in a nasty tone " what do you think you're doing " . I replied , " checking the tire pressure " . Like I don't have a right to do so . Next time will check these things a block away so not to pee off anyone . :rolleyes:

[sickpuppy1]

How many miles did you wring out of the Goodyears? Pretty amazing MPGs for 25psi!
Only about 33000. Which is more than some, less than others. And realistically, with another rotation, they were good for 3-5000 more. But winter is right around the corner and I didnt want to chance it. If ya wait till it snow you wait forever. November around here you dont know what to expect.

[Hershey]

'08 base model Yaris sedan w/ 4 speed auto :

Eco-Meter : 40 m.p.g. overall ( set @ 95 )
Calculator : 39.82 ( 391.6 mis. / 9.834 gals. @ 1 click )

Fill of Valero 87 w/E10 . Previous fill was GULF 93 w/E10 . Just had 4 BLIZZAK WS 70s put on this weekend . Set @ 36 p.s.i.. Using SHELL full synthetic 5w-20 (SN) with TOYO oil filter .

[Hershey]

'08 sedan w/ 4 speed auto : 39.53 m.p.g. using SUNOCO 87 w/E10 with 2 bars left

Eco-Meter : 39.6 ( set @ 95 )
Calculated : 39.53 ( 372.9 mis. / 9.431 gals. @ 1 click )

Refilled with BJs Wholesale 87 w/E10 . Reset E.M. to 96 , that way it'll hopefully read a little lower than the actual gas mileage . Tires are Blizzak WS 70s set at 36 p.s.i..