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derickveliz2

05-02-2013, 01:31 AM

First I just want to say I'm a happy man :)
and I'm very sorry to create such a chain reaction...

Well... 2nd, I would like to thank everybody for the event it was great!

I just got the score sheets today! "Thank you" x100000000000

This was my first event but not the last one. (even though I don't consider my car a competition car, more a selfish commuter car that sounds great)

I started this adventure in 2009 when I wanted to add a subwoofer to my OEM Head Unit in my little Yaris, and didn't had a clue about Sound Quality, x-over points, T/A, image and stage, etc, etc.
I learned everything by trial and error, so just been at this event is a big thing for me.

A couple of years ago I contacted xxxxxxxx, I asked him that I wanted to listen to a SQ-car because I was trying to accomplish some thing I didn't had an idea of what Sound Quality in a car was all about. He put together a few meets and we had a lot of fun and I learned a bunch of stuff.
Thanks xxxxxxxx you are a good friend.

I appreciate the feedback from the judges specially about how my system sounds and how I should use RTA to make it sound better

:)

I did have a issue, and I'm not blaming anyone or the system, it's nobody's fault and like a good friend said... you got to play the game...

-"it's about the size of the judges", (with all the respect the we deserve) as soon I met them I knew I wasn't going to get an accurate reading of my stage, but I'm fine with that, thats the way it is.

A friend of mine told me "that's why Mids in a-pillars are good" so you don't have that kind of issues.

-But like I said before I really appreciate the feedback of the judges in particular on how to use RTA as a tuning tool, (all my system has been tuned by ear only) and for the road, so I knew where I was going to get hit, and that was the purpose of my trip, to really see where I was compare to professionals like you.
I was afraid to go inside one of your cars and go... "Wow! what did you do to make it sound like that"
it's like the finish line at the 100 meters, there's the first place, second and so on until the last guy crosses the line... that doesn't means that the last guy is slow by any chance.

I would like to thank you guys for letting me hear your systems and share your expertise, it was too bad I had to leave early and didn't had the chance to listen to all the cars at the show. (next time... do it on a Saturday) lol

Also I would like thank yyyyyyyyy for taking the time to sit in my car and check my system, his input... same as the judges was "PRICELESS"

and what you guys do for these kind of events, I bet there is so much going on, I wish I could do one around here, that would be so cool.

Here are my score sheets that I will hang on the wall with a big happy face:
Thank you everybody. keep up the good work and if there is anything I can help, just let me know... Derick

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uxoYqV71cYw/UYHTIf3-CcI/AAAAAAAAt-U/Zsc7ySUIgiY/w462-h598/Derick_IASCA.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-1ckg5sb9ScM/UYHTMyOGsOI/AAAAAAAAt-c/l0MKzjjPdRs/w440-h598/Derick_Score_Sheet.jpg

D.

derickveliz2

05-02-2013, 01:53 AM

More Pictures...

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-lKWiIjOoXi8/UYHwFyh8CeI/AAAAAAAAt-0/EWmZoaxASrs/w447-h598/IMG_6021.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-FteEbMyl6fw/UYHwKUUQPnI/AAAAAAAAt_E/Iz81H5vgeFs/w800-h598/IMG_6023.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Qip30AuvDyU/UYHwMrh81BI/AAAAAAAAt_M/cWcVjmlAFxw/w800-h598/IMG_6027.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Gyw-WlQg4bI/UYHwP2xBtEI/AAAAAAAAt_c/6MtWRMBkz2M/w800-h598/IMG_6029.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-cXmx-2KsPQM/UYHwSINT2fI/AAAAAAAAt_k/LAchgIuldk0/w882-h598/IMG_6030.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3FqLC6uGc6M/UYHwN91o35I/AAAAAAAAt_U/EdKqS3s7a-0/w1061-h348/IMG_6028.JPG

D.

sqcomp

05-02-2013, 02:03 AM

sqcomp

05-02-2013, 02:06 AM

Now, tell us about the criticism on your mid bass and sub. Does the enclosure unload on you? When they say the mid bass is bloated, that is an easy fix with the P-99 between 125-400 Hz. Look at dialing the 250-ish Hz freqs down by 3 dB and listen to the difference in "bloating".

sqcomp

05-02-2013, 02:08 AM

derickveliz2

05-02-2013, 02:18 AM

Back again to the sub...I'm not surprised about the criticism about it not having sub bass presence. Even Buwalda's G35 takes a nose dive under 30 Hz. The Jurassic Lunch track killed his car at CES in 2011. I know...I'm the one that did it.

When he told me about the sub bass, I said... "well the little 6" does really good for it's size." and he looked at me... you mean you don't have a big sub in the trunk? I replied... "no... just the little 6 up front!" he thought it was a pillow down there, until he touched it.

at the end he said... "very impressive little 6"

D.

derickveliz2

05-02-2013, 03:05 AM

Notice the scores on imaging and linearity? They need to give you feedback as to why you scored like that.

Again, the rules permit you to be in the amateur class. Why they put you in pro/am on your very first competition is beyond me. That class is for peeps who have played the game for a few years.

The next time to enter SQc, circle amateur. This is absolutely the highest you should compete a right now...IMHO.

The following, I will say as someone who has walked the path before...

We can do better than 206. Also know that this is a local show with amateur judges at best. Hell, they didn't even write the name down of the judge on the IASCA sheet. I know your vehicle can do 230+. I know, I've done it.

I did, but here is where it comes to precision "sweet spot" and these guys are a lot taller than me, I bet without knowing they block the direct path between left Mid to left ear with their leg/foot, besides that because in the difference in height between them and me, their ears weren't at the sweet spot location, this completely shifts the stage to the right and screws up the image and linearity.

one judge said that the center image was to the left, sure if he blocks the left Mid, I know for a fact that the center image shifts to the right. and I remember what you wrote to me... that is why Mids in a-pillars are good, so this is not an issue any more... "Play the game"

judge #2 tells me that left is about 1 inch inside the a-pillar, OK, at this point I want to cut my veins... and/or my ears are not working properly... but then I think, there is a tweeter beyond outside the a-pillar so what's going on... again I bet the difference in height was about 6-8 inches and with big legs and foot blocking the Mid,... yes the left side of the stage may sound like inside the a-pillar.

now I maybe crazy but at the sweet spot and not blocking the left Mid... the Left isn't inside the a-pillar... and the center is not towards the right...
that is why I had one of the best guys at the show (that happens to be my height) try the sweet spot inside the Yaris and he was very impressed! he also explain to me a little bit how to level the EQ using RTA.

I know about the "Class" issue, I read the rules but they didn't let me choose in the class I wanted to participate. It was funny one guy complained that he was set as amateur by mistake!

I'm sure 206 is under rated, specially with the issues I described above.

Now I have to learn how to RTA, buy a mic and get a good software! and...

It's not for competition, it's for me, in the pursuit of the BEST SOUND for "my self"

D.

sqcomp

05-02-2013, 10:32 AM

Cool...

This is the part where you need to walk in like a boss next time...

You are in amateur class Derick. These ass clowns DO NOT get to choose a class for you. This is a damn good example of bad management of the show. At the next show, circle amateur class. They don't choose for you.

why?

05-04-2013, 12:45 AM

wow, just read that diyma thread. Those people are pathetic excuses for humanity. That thread just reeks of making excuses and acting like immature losers.

Derick, you are just too nice.

_S7V7N_

05-04-2013, 01:20 AM

I was very close too makin an account om that site. They woulda been typing with there elbows after i was done.

Why go to CA.com. they go apesh!t on damn near every post.

alfredyeez

05-04-2013, 02:30 AM

Congrates Derick

sqcomp

05-04-2013, 12:49 PM

^i think this is the most simple reaction. I completely agree. Congrats D!

Why & s7 - The lame excuses are exactly why I started digging. What they don't like (who does) is criticism. They are correct...I was not there. But I do know, and have done, a much better job at the shows I've promoted and put on.

Heck, I was even informed that Kim Sabourin (IASCA HQ) had to get invoked to get the scoresheets...if that says anything.

why?

05-04-2013, 10:48 PM

It says a ton. And is totally absurd. As is the fact that it was obviously told to the loser to publicly apologize on the thread for being a loser.

sqcomp

05-05-2013, 12:25 AM

I'd better not look at the thread...I'll be tempted to rub salt in the wounds...

The lesson should be for all prospective and new competitors, make sure you research what you're getting into in regards of competition. Ask people that have been there and done that.

I'm not trying to step onto a soap box BUT...

There are definitely people out there that will step all over you to get what they want. I've seen it at both the local and international level in regards to SQ competition. What does this have to do with D's PA competition? I'd be willing to lay bets not only did the local shop have a car/customer in the amateur class that wanted little competition but also had judges that weren't trained properly and also from the shop itself. This is called "trophy harvesting". This is completely unethical and morally reprehensible. I was even "jockeyed" into being in the Pro/Am class last year to insure Team Hybrids' domination on the West Coast. As a good team player I followed direction...much to my shaggrin.

In my case, I had to recuse myself multiple times from judging classes with competitors that were on the same team as I was. I did that to hold myself above the fray. I held a handful of competitions and judged in multiple IASCA single and double point events. I spent my own coin to go to INAC/SBN to see the ins and outs of the world championships. Later I even competed in said championships.

When you look at that thread we're talking about, know that most of the people talking crap have never even left the local area, let alone ever heard a real championship vehicle. The best example of a "championship vehicle" at the PA show was Julian Ridi's Honda Fit...but even that piece of "loveliness" has big weaknesses.

Listen to these words:

If you want to compete, know that there are unscrupulous people out there that will lie, cheat and steal to get a friggin' stupid trophy. What's even worse is the people that know it happens and don't take a stand to do anything about it. These are moral cowards. I can drop bombs with names but I'll refrain...for now.

The silver lining is that there are people out there that really want to compete for sound and nothing else. I reserve the right to do so at any time (re-join competition) OR to help anyone who lives and breathes SQ sound. Ask and I'll give anyone some really good information on sound, theories, practical application and overall strategy to win in the SQ competitions.

I've seen it at the highest level...in other words, been there done that. Learn from me.

derickveliz2

05-06-2013, 02:19 AM

.................................................. .........................................

I've seen it at the highest level...in other words, been there done that. Learn from me.

A m e n...

PS...
I went yesterday to the post office and nothing, I'm still waiting for the hard copies. :smile:

D.

derickveliz2

05-06-2013, 02:27 AM

The Yaris had another good contender last week!

Brand new 2013 (3 series BMW)

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-0ySBKTs6wPU/UX9PEs5LsdI/AAAAAAAAt0c/TcKk8cslmLE/w1202-h898/photo+%252820%2529.JPG

D.

derickveliz2

05-06-2013, 02:28 AM

Yeah!

The Beemer is FASTER... that's ok with me.

D.

sqcomp

05-06-2013, 11:32 AM

Is that Beemer yours? Hope so! Great looking car.

derickveliz2

05-07-2013, 12:31 AM

Is that Beemer yours? Hope so! Great looking car.

:brokenheart: no it's not mine. :cry:

I don't like black on BMW any way. :thumbup:

D.

derickveliz2

05-07-2013, 12:40 AM

Look what I got today!

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mRlCGNjMcNM/UYh3gQN8TyI/AAAAAAAAuAY/qRPMaVrR_EM/w446-h597/photo+%252818%2529.JPG

D.

derickveliz2

05-07-2013, 12:41 AM

Look what I got today!

D.

I bet they were only 3 participants LOL :thumbsup:

D.

Alien Mantis

05-07-2013, 03:44 AM

Holy jumping jihadi's!
D does his first comp, and the DRAMA is worse than an episode of Jersey Shore.
Tsk tsk.
( I tried to warn you D. You are deep in the quicksand now buddy. )

At least SQcomp is "keepin` it real" for ya. He groomed ya!
:biggrin:

sqcomp

05-07-2013, 05:00 PM

I was really hoping it wouldn't be like that for D.

That's why I mentioned that I'd buy him a trophy...because some of the sycophants that linger around the "sport" are worse than a flaming case of herpes. They know nothing else aside from competition, their pitiful little world revolves around it...and they desperately try to seem important by showing trophies.

Very few anymore actually participate in it for the love of music. Overwhelmingly it is for what little money there is and the perceived power over those who don't know any better...you hear a "big time" audio name and then never question what they have to say or more appropriately, how they act in the public arena. The nice thing for me is that I noticed it early on while participating at the highest levels available. I took these "people" to task and was summarily ostracized for not towing the proverbial line and having people take ownership for their wrongs.

Something tells me that I'd rather be a person with a clear conscience and morality that is right and true. Think about it, would you rather have someone standing next to you when the chips are down that will sell their soul for a trohpy? Oh hell no.

@ AM - You'd love what I have in the Yaris now! It is almost the polar opposite of what I was running during competition. Does it sound as good? *meh* No, it doesn't image "perfectly" and it has lower power handling...BUT...it took an afternoon to completely install and adjust. It's an "I don't give a F**k what anyone thinks" system. Besides, if I have someone who pisses me off, I have that K3LA to throw a double middle fingered salute with.

_S7V7N_

05-07-2013, 05:05 PM

The guy on Diyma was bragging about buying medals. How much them things cost Sq ?

sqcomp

05-07-2013, 07:21 PM

I've seen the medals like D has, as low as 80 cents a piece. That's when you buy a buttload though. Heck, if anyone wants a medal or trophy, I've still got some hanging around the shop that I purchased with my own money a couple years ago...I still broke even with a 38 car field for our first show at $25 entry fee (for a 2x IASCA event).

They're probably buing them for a little over a $1 a peice plus the stickers for them. That being said, with MECA, you buy the "Event package" that includes the trophies and medals. The 1x event package, IIRC, is around $250 for the entire event. So, the trophies/medals are ultimately cheap honestly.

Anyone that says they spent a lot of money on them is either lying to you or is an idiot for paying so much for them. That phrase, "a lot" means different things to different people.

My opinion is that if you're bragging about trophies and medals at a 1x or even a 2x, you're full of $hit one way or another.

_S7V7N_

05-07-2013, 07:54 PM

Bro rig me one up that says "Clit Boxing Champ". See who reads it. Lollll

sqcomp

05-07-2013, 07:59 PM

Wow! I'll send you a trophy that says, "I beat herpes" instead...

Alien Mantis

05-07-2013, 08:21 PM

@ AM - You'd love what I have in the Yaris now! It is almost the polar opposite of what I was running during competition. Does it sound as good? *meh* No, it doesn't image "perfectly" and it has lower power handling...BUT...it took an afternoon to completely install and adjust. It's an "I don't give a F**k what anyone thinks" system.

SWEET! That's what I am talkin` about!
I'll bet it DOES sound great. Certainly not at the level you are used to, but more than good enough for anyone who enjoys listening to "music" and not going to competitions.
:thumbsup:

Alien Mantis

05-07-2013, 08:24 PM

sqcomp

05-07-2013, 08:39 PM

Honestly, this was D's decision.

It's very much like a brother who wants to join the military. I'm not going to stop him, I'll just tell him how the game is played.

_S7V7N_

05-07-2013, 11:08 PM

Wow! I'll send you a trophy that says, "I beat herpes" instead...

Reminds me of when a friends ex tried to bash him and say that he had given her crabs, I looked over and told the chic WTF did she expect for a few bucks....Lobster. She throws me the bird everytime she see's me now...SMH.:respekt:

sqcomp

05-08-2013, 01:02 AM

Brilliant!

patm

05-09-2013, 12:26 AM

Hi sqcomp, how you doin. whats all this commotion over scores. In the end the only score that matters is D's score. who cares what others think (its all subjective any way). D, if you are happy with the sound, then thats all that matters. then you are a winner, first place. Save the money and take the family out. in their eyes you are a winner and thats all that matters.
Now i have to go and figure out how to fly my quad.

sqcomp

05-09-2013, 12:56 AM

...I'm doing fine...

There's no flap over the scores per se. Rather the obvious mismanagement of Derick's classification by what would appear to be either inept and/or crooked show officials...on his first competition.

And you're absolutely correct, what they think ultimately is not the issue.

derickveliz2

05-09-2013, 01:52 AM

Nice to see you Patm, haven't heard from you lately.

I can see how they could play around with classification, there was another guy who was very upset because they put him as amateur and this was his 3rd competition.

BTW... I don't need any trophies I just need more time to enjoy my music (O:

D.

derickveliz2

05-11-2013, 12:26 AM

[B]BTW... I don't need any trophies I just need more time to enjoy my music (O:

D.

I should edit:

I need a good Microphone and a good RTA software.

I'm going to start learning more about RTA... :thumbsup:

TOLMACH

05-11-2013, 12:40 AM

I should edit:

I need a good Microphone and a good RTA software.

I'm going to start learning more about RTA... :thumbsup:

Do not rely on this sort of stuff too much. Your ears and your preferences are your primary instruments ))

sqcomp

05-11-2013, 02:09 AM

The ears are indeed the only instruments that matter...

...that being said, they can be tricked. Derick, if you're bent on buying an RTA, look for an Audio Control 3055, a Coustic 33 or spring for a term lab. The first two should come with microphones for relatively inexpensively compared to term lab.

The real use for an RTA is level matching over the entire 1/3rd octave range. Phasing would come after that once all levels are matched at the listening position. Once the levels are matched, you'll notice an instant improvement in stage accuracy, width and depth.

Why?

When the level is matched, the sound is reaching the mic at the same time. There's no speaker confusion that throws off the speaker's response to your ears.

We have an RTA at the shop...but it's a bit of a drive for you. :)

derickveliz2

05-20-2013, 11:47 PM

I don't think I can afford a Audio Control 3055 or similar, too much money.

I was thinking on something like TruRTA and a $50 mic

How was your trip to W.D.C.?

D.

derickveliz2

05-21-2013, 12:16 AM

Do not rely on this sort of stuff too much. Your ears and your preferences are your primary instruments ))

Don't worry, most of my install is just about personal pleasure and just in case my ears are bad, everything is around them and how I like it.

Just to add, now that I have a huge library of SQ Music, I've been nailing down lots of issues I had, or thought I had. Specially in the 30Hz to 200Hz zone.

But still would like the graphic interpretation of what should I be hearing.

This is the never ending story... hey! I forgot... I really would like to try 2 subs up front!

D.

sqcomp

05-23-2013, 12:42 AM

My trip to DC...overall, it was great.

The more solemn experience:

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww203/sqcomp/IMG_0805_zps3a98e390.jpg

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww203/sqcomp/IMG_1924_zps9ffc3d30.jpg

derickveliz2

05-23-2013, 01:09 AM

My trip to DC...overall, it was great.

The more solemn experience

Awesome, that's a beautiful place!

Thanks for the advice about Beaming!

D.

derickveliz2

05-23-2013, 01:27 AM

Today's picture at home... after a 185 miles commute:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9xgtQl683ek/UZ2aXqh12LI/AAAAAAAAuWM/sEqdcjr5Cco/w1118-h453-no/Yaris+sienna+panorama.JPG

D.

sqcomp

05-23-2013, 01:44 AM

What's the next step for you regarding the system? The dual sub attempt?

derickveliz2

05-23-2013, 01:58 AM

What's the next step for you regarding the system? The dual sub attempt?

Yes, I'm getting ready for that.

Just so I can say... I did it!

but I would like to do the RTA before the second sub

I also need to redo my a-pillars I don't like the way they came out last time.

D.

derickveliz2

05-24-2013, 01:31 AM

See, I told you I got 3rd (Last) from only 3... J jj

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rPQVFlNCT88/UZ7hyqpuXWI/AAAAAAAAuW8/Daw5Y5PrUI4/w1030-h784-no/Fullscreen+capture+5232013+113658+PM.bmp.jpg

D.

sqcomp

05-24-2013, 09:41 PM

Steve Stern couldn't even spell Julian Ridi's name correctly...

*sigh*

I should send you my a pillars and my tweeter pods so you can play with them...

derickveliz2

05-24-2013, 10:08 PM

Steve Stern couldn't even spell Julian Ridi's name correctly...

*sigh*

I should send you my a pillars and my tweeter pods so you can play with them...

Yeah, and I'm from Nasachusetts!

D.

sqcomp

05-24-2013, 11:35 PM

Some might say I'm trolling the topic but what I point out validates the lack of professionalism that should be at the forefront of the sport if they want it to grow.

The lack of proper judging, the lack of timely scoring, the lack of proper event result reporting...

...and yes, I can and have done better hosting my own shows.

derickveliz2

06-13-2013, 11:44 PM

Too quiet around here, Yaris is blasting! just went by 105,300 miles and still getting 42.2 MPG average.

You just can't believe what I'm after in the little Yaris, call me crazy but it's there I can hear the issue.

Sorry I've been very busy at work(s) but I'm still alive and 100% Yarisworld Enthusiast by Heart.

D.

MyzticZ3r0

06-16-2013, 09:23 PM

I dunna how to make a new post lol but I hope someone will be able to help me. I have a 2007 Yaris sedan. I'm not happy with the stock speakers, I have a sub running off the stock HU but I keep hearing distorted bass coming from the speakers in the back and the doors.

I was thinking about changing the speakers and leaving the HU stock I wanna keep the look. What speakers would you recommend? I need them to run off the HU so they should still be loud but with no bass. I'm thinking something with low watt rating and resistance. I dunna

Thank you

Near the top of the forum page, before the thread titles, there's a button labeled "new topic."

derickveliz2

06-18-2013, 04:52 PM

Ok, so what I came through takes my system to a much better stage, the issue that I'm trying to resolve it's an issue related to my Yaris and my System, so it probably won't apply to other installs. but here we go....

So I was looking for a "WOW" factor in my system, first I thought adding a second sub would do it, but not really if I wanted to keep with Sound Quality and not starting fall into SPL (sound pressure level) I still would like to try a 2nd woofer in the near future.

After attending the SQ competitions in NY, a guy who listened to my system said... "some tuning is need it" and I think he said the word "ques" or some thing like that..

For a better understanding he was referring to the female voice followed by a "ppsssst" at the end of some words from the song coming from the female voice, kind of like you could tell the location of the female voice on the stage but at the end it drags to the left or right up and/or down.

So after this conversation I was really challenged on how to take care of this. He said tuning and x-over points but I was sure that something else was going on!

D.

derickveliz2

06-18-2013, 06:21 PM

So I found the what could be the "WOW" factor...

as mentioned above I found issues in my system that was or is not letting me have a good stage:

One day in my regular tuning session going through the frequencies and trying to center the image with the EQ I got stuck in a particular frequency... according to my Technic I play a Frequency into the Mids and Tweeters and with the Right & Left EQ I move up and down until I hear/feel the sound in the center of the stage (or at least where I feel it should be) but at some point...

I got stuck! it didn't matter how much I input I had on the EQ the noise was still hitting my LEFT ear no matter what! I started blocking the LEFT Tweeter with my hand thinking that this was the reason I was hearing the signal in my LEFT ear, but nothing...

By accident I moved my RIGHT hand up and down when I notice the signal fades away, "What's going on????" so I found out that the RIGHT Mid has a straight hit directly into the LEFT window and bounces back to my LEFT ear...

Later on I found the same issue with the LEFT Mid a straight path going between my legs and the bottom of the dashboard hitting the RIGHT window and then reflecting the signal to my Right ear.

I spoke with my brother who studies music in NY he understood the issue right away saying "First Reflection"!

I'll try to draw it later for better understanding!

D.

derickveliz2

06-19-2013, 12:16 AM

So I found the what could be the "WOW" factor...

I'll try to draw it later for better understanding!

D.

Image 1:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-76KwmvtNQ4k/UcEdbkV1OCI/AAAAAAAAufg/U5GwGVUZNCU/w1160-h822-no/1ST+REFLECTION+LEFT+EAR.png

Image 2:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-eSNNMPO39aU/UcEdX1l4lYI/AAAAAAAAufY/48VbgBm6KCY/w1160-h822-no/1ST+REFLECTION+RIGHT+EAR.png

D.

derickveliz2

06-19-2013, 12:45 AM

The temporary fix!

or should I say "taking care of some issues"

After doing this dirty improvised fix and some light tuning the stage gets a "WOW" factor!

Very solid, localizing vocals and instruments in the stage is fantastic!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ioH9TqHE17Q/UcEnyUtbpoI/AAAAAAAAuf4/w-bSIDf0HMI/w1110-h822-no/1ST+REFLECTION+FIX.png

So now comes the Design part! and how I'm going to address this issue in a proper way, I have some ideas!
stay tuned!

D.

derickveliz2

07-16-2013, 01:14 AM

Let my speakers breathe!!! I'm talking 63Hz - 160Hz...

After going through the experience in meca and iasca I got some good feedback from the judges, one that called my attention was...

-Your Lows (HAT L6 in doors) sound like if you put a piece of cloth over. And you know what? yes the sound wasn't perfect, so I start digging about it, tuning, x-over points R+L EQ and more tuning until I got them a little better but on the shy side.

-At high volume I could tell something wasn't right, and I was getting a rattle once in awhile, I checked the Baffles... very solid, I checked the Deadening in the doors... Overwhelming but I was still getting that little rattle at high volumes, I had to tame them down to prevent that ugly rattle I was getting, I'm not putting a huge amount of Watts but 175 watts to each driver go to go somewhere...

-One day I had my left hand rest on top of the window's controllers and I could feel some little pressure (wind?) coming out from the edges like a small vented box with a subwoofer ... mmm so it got me thinking "Is the internal air space of the door enough?"...

-These L6 are designed as "Free Air" AKA IB (infinite baffle). So maybe Yes! the door is not big enough for the L6's and that is the pressure I feel at high volume levels. Same as I did when I had my mids in spheres with not enough airspace.

-So lets them breathe! I made 3 big holes in each door next to an existing little hole that had a rubber cap sealing the door. See pictures below.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uyoVtze3Wp4/UeTBHD3XCQI/AAAAAAAAvJI/XycO7nbkLLk/w614-h822-no/photo+%252828%2529.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-QJBtcVjcAmc/UeTBJqDCsLI/AAAAAAAAvJQ/Y_A-QJqSveo/w614-h822-no/image+%25285%2529.jpg

D.

dragoonmc

07-19-2013, 09:34 PM

I would put something behind those holes so that Water will not just drain into your door as it run down the seam between the doors

derickveliz2

07-26-2013, 12:45 AM

I would put something behind those holes so that Water will not just drain into your door as it run down the seam between the doors

I was thinking something like this:

http://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/server1200/c3c1f/products/324/images/741/PLBL_100_website__74870.1363883650.1280.1280.JPG

D.

derickveliz2

07-26-2013, 12:46 AM

Everybody, a friend of mine in the car-audio world will have a mini-meet at my place it's going to be on 8-3-2013 from 3pm to 6pm and it's 15 minutes from Sturbridge MA.

Send me a PM if you are interested.

D.

MyzticZ3r0

07-26-2013, 04:21 AM

If only I lived on the East Coast..

derickveliz2

08-05-2013, 01:53 AM

Turned out a good event!
There were other 2 SQ cars there besides the Yaris and one SPL

This was awesome to listen... I mean feel!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZKWpBPDDBY8/Uf3hcY09iVI/AAAAAAAAvlU/a-ombAzF22g/w1232-h822-no/photo+%252828%2529.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-l1iHzanA2nk/Uf3ib644jxI/AAAAAAAAvl8/MeTqT-yCNOg/w1596-h314-no/image+%25285%2529.jpg

D.

derickveliz2

08-05-2013, 01:54 AM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-x2juiAMuwPA/Uf3hopq7m4I/AAAAAAAAvlc/gAP9nJJL7uE/w1110-h822-no/image+%25287%2529.jpg

D.

derickveliz2

08-06-2013, 03:37 AM

The super loud 4 woofers according to the owner hits 140db!

This is what we wrote to me after the meeting:

"I must say that Yaris is really impressive. Your hard work has really paid off! "

D.

derickveliz2

08-13-2013, 02:04 AM

I've been doing my home work too:

Blue is Before, Yellow is after (1st round at RTA)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DzcMTb3oDVw/Ugm0R3ag17I/AAAAAAAAvrg/Zvn1mAENCsQ/w1366-h768-no/Fullscreen+capture+8122013+41111+AM.jpg

D.

derickveliz2

08-13-2013, 02:04 AM

And this is how EQ end up:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-VHHdxhCnoag/Ugm8WYBjK0I/AAAAAAAAvrw/GiTzrNByq3M/w1215-h445-no/photo.JPG

D.

derickveliz2

09-04-2013, 01:34 PM

So I have a few requests for more detail pictures at the Big 3, so here we go:

From the Alt. to Battery:

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/CEA29ADD-8386-4B31-9267-E216DD5CD0B1-5671-00000541519D2DC1_zps8d2b5b8a.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/CEA29ADD-8386-4B31-9267-E216DD5CD0B1-5671-00000541519D2DC1_zps8d2b5b8a.jpg.html)

D.

derickveliz2

09-04-2013, 01:35 PM

From the Engine Block to Ground:

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/4D14FCA1-5761-40D3-8061-15115B74D531-5671-000005416053F2DF_zps9b6bb4d6.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/4D14FCA1-5761-40D3-8061-15115B74D531-5671-000005416053F2DF_zps9b6bb4d6.jpg.html)

D.

sqcomp

09-04-2013, 02:38 PM

On that posi stud coming out of the alternator.

I ran mine under the shroud as well. I have mine split loomed coming out of the alty and just before it reappears on the other side, I've used heat shrink and tech flex to "pretty it up".

derickveliz2

09-04-2013, 04:32 PM

It sounds so nice, can't wait to get it again!

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/08830E72-9046-4360-B517-F6FAFEF17D9C-6387-000005C82DA3922A_zps63ea3ba1.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/08830E72-9046-4360-B517-F6FAFEF17D9C-6387-000005C82DA3922A_zps63ea3ba1.jpg.html)

D.

Mz3oh5

09-09-2013, 08:37 PM

Our going to love your sound system once it is done. TRUST ME!! Music is so enjoyable when you can truly feel it.

sqcomp

09-11-2013, 12:06 AM

That last post made me chuckle...

Hey D, you might not enjoy music now, but you will when you're done.

*sigh*

It's a disease my musical brother...a disease. We're all carriers here. Of most anyone here, I think I know where DV's head is at.

(Note: no one needs to take offense to my post, the first part is dripping with humorous sarcasm)

Point? It's NEVER done! You'll always have ideas floating around in your head on how to improve the sound you currently have.

Mz3oh5

09-11-2013, 12:29 AM

Jealousy is the biggest compliment!!

sqcomp

09-11-2013, 01:33 AM

Please qualify that last post.

Who's being jealous? Me? Jealous of who? Derick? If that's the case, you don't know the history around this board or between myself and Derick. I would venture to say that he and I could be considered musical brothers. We're just separated by geography.

If you need perspective, I can offer it. So can Derick. The last post should have been taken as diametrically opposite of jealousy. It was simply a chuckle and humorous sarcasm into how you mentioned being finished with a sound system. That's all.

_S7V7N_

09-11-2013, 01:57 AM

Lolll stop "hating" Sq before I send you to DIY!

Long time no see btw guys.

derickveliz2

09-11-2013, 02:43 AM

I can't complain, it sounds better than I ever expected, it's unreal.

Thinking in the past "I only wanted to put a subwoofer in my car" and see where I end up.

I've been stopping by Audio Shops and asked the owner for a feedback, after they listen to the Yaris they are speechless. Wonder why? :iono:

I know I'm never going to be done.

What I'm very thankful is to all the help in YarisWorld and Sqcomp for the knowledge and friendship, nothing would have been possible without all you guys.

My best rewards is that I know how to do it, in a Yaris or a Minivan, I feel confident that I can design a system, install it and tune it with great success!

Yaris sounds great!
110K miles
42 mpg
and... Yeah I can feel the music in 3D.

The best car I ever had.

D.

sqcomp

09-11-2013, 02:54 AM

Right?!

I made an introduction privately that was absolutely welcoming and informative...no sarcasm.

I've been playing around with my new project, the little SRT-4 I picked up for 6k. This little girl pulls like a freight train! It's completely different than the Yaris. I'll be setting it up for time attack runs under the ICSCC and NASA formats. I've got the girl in storage until I get enough bolt on parts for a reason to take it out to test.

I've got a neat little oiling mod I need to take the valve cover off for, a custom painted catch can and check valve, Diablosport iTune to install, 1025cc rescaled injectors and a special tune for the DSI.

Gotta get an NGK AFX and replace the stater to complete the first of five phases. I have a whole mind map...extensive mind map that takes this little car down to 2600 lbs and the ability to go up to 590 ponies with the little 5558 snail and some hotter go juice (with some headwork, oiling mods, and perhaps some bottom end work as well).

There's A LOT more to this, believe that. You'll see a neat transformation over the next two years.

Mz3oh5

09-11-2013, 12:41 PM

I think investing numerous amounts of money on audio upgrades on a yaris is too much considering its not a muscle car or a collectors car unless maybe your car is ONLY a show car with thropies to show (meaning its not street legal). Yaris is unique considering it has potential to be a tuner car however, the only difference you will see in performance is putting in a turbo. Externally it has the curves and once you drop it without having any camber issues it looks appealing.

The first upgrade I did on my car was the audio system. I took out the useless original yaris radio & side door speakers & put in a Sony System. I also have a MTX Magnum Audio MB212P Magna Bass Package, two 8-ohm 12" subs & 250-watt mono amplifier. The only speakers I left alone were the side speakers in the backseat & side speakers in the trunk because they audio contrast each other. I spent close to $600 on everything & Im very satisfied with I have, but I do have a HATCHBACK not a Sedan (sound waves). I think wasting any more than $600 on a max $15,000- $17,000 new 07 yaris would be ridiculous!! Correct me if im wrong, but thats my opinon.

pennyracer

09-11-2013, 01:33 PM

i am sure some really don't care what you think when it comes to personalizing ones care and your small budget to spend on a yaris . yes they sell for a lot less than others cars and do the job as good or better without the heavy cost and maintenance of others cars . i did not spend 15000 for my new yaris it was 13800 out the door its a great car and i have improved it greatly in the areas i feel that were needed for my own taste . i say different strokes for different folks i feel you statements offend some people like me as you can tell . least your were smart enough to join the best site on the internet for the yaris's

Mz3oh5

09-11-2013, 01:41 PM

lmao! Atleast we can agree on something :)
My words were not meant to offend anyone like yourself. The love that we have for our cars is sometimes unexplainable to others. Turbo or no Turbo, shes a Mercedes in my eyes!!

sqcomp

09-11-2013, 02:33 PM

There's the thing. Everyone is different with their specific tastes.

Admittedly my audio investment was nearly the value of the car. Where did the investment get me? Contacts DEEP in the 12 volt world and at the time, the best sounding Yaris in the world according to IASCA.

Now I've moved on to something a little more personally rewarding.

derickveliz2

09-11-2013, 03:06 PM

Would love to check out your SRT-4 Sqcomp!

I invested in my Yaris enough to make it sound really good. And it's not a waste it's pure pleasure every day and I would do it in any car that I own.

Yaris performance I know, it's only 106 HP but modifying the suspension makes me take corners and ramps like a sport car and leave others behind, around here you can't really go 10-15 mph past speed limit. )o:

There is a kid that has (2) 15" Kicker Solo-Baric woofers with 1000 watts in his Jeep Cherokee, it's LOUD! but... one day brought him into the Yaris... he almost sells away his woofers that day, His system might be LOUD but when you are in the sweet spot it's like heaven!

If I ever get to own a Mercedes Benz or BMW I would move my system into any other car and make it sound good.

BTW I pay nothing for my Yaris, I had an old 97' Tacoma and it was rusted, Toyota gave me enough to pay for the Yaris.

No bad feelings around here pure LOVE to our cars.

D.

Mz3oh5

09-11-2013, 04:21 PM

You must post pictures when your done :)

derickveliz2

09-11-2013, 04:31 PM

You must post pictures when your done :)

I have, I did, and I will keep posting pictures.

Probably one of the biggest threads with pictures here in YarisWorld.

D.

MyzticZ3r0

09-11-2013, 05:29 PM

You must post pictures when your done :)

He has.. this thread is 100+ pages for a reason. Check out his system..

sqcomp

09-11-2013, 05:40 PM

Perhaps if you ever get to this side of the country, we could take it for a spin. By the time you do, you'll need a helmet and to be able to latch a five point up!

derickveliz2

09-13-2013, 12:18 AM

I'll bring my helmet!

D.

derickveliz2

09-13-2013, 12:33 AM

Kaotic!

you asked me about the OEM front door baffles here are a few pictures, did you get your new speakers? and Yes I guess you can just cut the OEM speaker without destroying the rib-bets and try to screw the new speaker in.

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/Yaris%20Deadening/80c409c4.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/Yaris%20Deadening/80c409c4.jpg.html)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2nuk9hpA4XA/UjKFeLJqh1I/AAAAAAAAvzg/PFfJUh0CVys/w646-h865-no/IMG_8197.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-EuKN55PLKfA/UjKFQYJllQI/AAAAAAAAvzY/_8SmpsZW6D8/w1040-h865-no/IMG_8194.JPG

D.

derickveliz2

09-13-2013, 02:11 AM

You must post pictures when your done :)

Not really done, but getting there, it's the never ending story.

Some of you have seen this little portfolio I put together that gives you the idea of what's going on in the Yaris.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-BzL1f63ObDk/UjKSxFHK8hI/AAAAAAAAvzw/uOhh0PYPf9I/w1461-h822-no/Fullscreen+capture+9132013+121821+AM.bmp.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-e0VCzKktnpY/UjKUTr6OAPI/AAAAAAAAvz8/jRtnUY07qWo/w1461-h822-no/Fullscreen+capture+9132013+121824+AM.bmp.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-QfNjWYLagBA/UjKVbjV4Q7I/AAAAAAAAv0s/9JryagZFb7w/w1461-h822-no/Fullscreen+capture+9132013+122209+AM.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-H2vkZgHOJh0/UjKeKQc8V8I/AAAAAAAAv1E/2NXKPhIMe1I/w1461-h822-no/Fullscreen+capture+9132013+10938+AM.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-BB-MACQScfs/UjKdQnip11I/AAAAAAAAv08/PEIOUXt2YTc/w1461-h822-no/Fullscreen+capture+9132013+10516+AM.bmp.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-LP-h7C9Ewqw/UjKUlzF_BWI/AAAAAAAAv0M/BGYafPD6zrk/w1461-h822-no/Fullscreen+capture+9132013+121832+AM.bmp.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-eEbZzggejmA/UjKUw9U33-I/AAAAAAAAv0U/FxWo_drU9FU/w1461-h822-no/Fullscreen+capture+9132013+121927+AM.bmp.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-KbiRIi9xQ74/UjKVOROS62I/AAAAAAAAv0c/J6Hgnb82SaY/w1461-h822-no/Fullscreen+capture+9132013+121838+AM.bmp.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-OZAieGHph24/UjKVY7mvVOI/AAAAAAAAv0k/EUdKeTPdtdk/w1461-h822-no/Fullscreen+capture+9132013+121844+AM.bmp.jpg

D.

MyzticZ3r0

09-13-2013, 07:42 AM

I never noticed the 3" mids before! If I didn't say it before, you have one hell of a car =D. Diggin' everything

derickveliz2

09-13-2013, 12:42 PM

I never noticed the 3" mids before! If I didn't say it before, you have one hell of a car =D. Diggin' everything

Thanks,

Yeah! the 3" Mids are in the kick area, they play almost as a Point Source and responsible for most of the Sound Stage running from 250 Hz to 6.3 kHz. They play a very important roll with Time Alignment T/A and when it comes to Left & Right EQ the location and aiming it's critical. Inside a car reflections are terrible.

D.

derickveliz2

10-03-2013, 12:43 AM

BUMP...!

sqcomp

10-03-2013, 08:59 PM

derickveliz2

10-03-2013, 09:24 PM

Shameless bump right there D! Shameless! I would NEVER use a bump to raise my post count. :P hehe

Making this post bump relevant...

...Are there any plans to compete next year for you? (completely leading question, knowing insider information and generally causing trouble)

Bump fun!

If I have the chance I will.

The system is way far superior now compare to when I competed at Syracuse.

but it's all about personal enjoyment now and I will enjoy it as much as I can and you know what I mean. :thumbup:

D.

sqcomp

10-03-2013, 11:49 PM

This weekend they're having IASCA finals for the west coast location not 5 miles away from my house.

Until the government shutdown, I wasn't going to be able to make it...

I might stop by just to cause trouble and visit old friends. I'm hoping J.J. Dubec will be there with his Gladen setup on his GTR. That'll give the pro or pro/am class something to worry about. I'll do my best to help him wreck that class, brands be damned.

derickveliz2

10-04-2013, 12:02 AM

I feel that way too, for now I'm happy, I accomplished what I thought it would never be possible, I learn how to do it, I know how it works, I enjoy doing it and I'll do it again! and I will.

I hate to say it but the Yaris sounds so good that I want everybody to listen to it, but at the same time I feel selfish and rather just keep it for my self, I enjoy every track, old or new, Rap or Classic.

My next little project is RTA for left and right ear and me sitting at the sweet spot, call me crazy but I love it.

D.

sqcomp

10-04-2013, 04:13 AM

You know I understand your feelings about the Yaris.

Whatever I can do to help with whatever next step you take, let me know.

_S7V7N_

10-05-2013, 03:32 PM

Holy spam hell

MyzticZ3r0

10-05-2013, 03:33 PM

^ My thoughts exactly... it's a first time I've seen spam during the day :(

derickveliz2

10-06-2013, 12:01 AM

I'm glad moderators can control that!

Way to go YarisWorld.com

D.

ladamafia

10-06-2013, 05:39 AM

sqcomp

10-06-2013, 11:48 AM

I know! Commenting on and digitally socializing with the OP really muddles thing down.

...

derickveliz2

10-06-2013, 03:53 PM

You know I understand your feelings about the Yaris.

Whatever I can do to help with whatever next step you take, let me know.

What I'm looking at now is:

Pioneer Head Unit P99, if I could hide the back box and have a connection to the face of the unit, like if the box would be inside the glove compartment and the face some where else.

What do you think?

D.

sqcomp

10-06-2013, 06:26 PM

_S7V7N_

10-07-2013, 04:36 AM

sqcomp

10-07-2013, 06:00 PM

That's up to D to parse down the current thread.

That being said, if we wanted to meet the request from this 4 post member, D could simply start a new thread with just pics and lock it.

_S7V7N_

10-07-2013, 07:12 PM

Loll @4 post.

You guys just need to stop being social ! Bwahahaha!

derickveliz2

10-08-2013, 01:29 AM

You mean the dc to DC box? AND you want to hide the source itself?

What do you want in it's place, the stock unit? You'll want some reference to see what's happening though...

Give me more thoughts on what you want.

I would like to put the main head unit "box" inside the glove-compartment and the Face of the head unit some where in the dashboard.

similar to this setup:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-RuMMdYCMmLc/UlOGZG_XWWI/AAAAAAAAwBU/YltdpsyVaWQ/w1296-h865-no/eq8000.JPG

D.

derickveliz2

10-08-2013, 03:43 AM

Fall is here....

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/CLA%20Adventure/IMG_8792.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/CLA%20Adventure/IMG_8792.jpg.html)

D.

_S7V7N_

10-08-2013, 09:07 AM

You're lucky D. You have seasons. Down here in South Tx we have Summer then around Nov. We have Summer/Winter. Basically you leave in the a.m bundled and use the a/c on the way home.

MyzticZ3r0

10-08-2013, 10:22 AM

That is one gorgeous area - we only have winter/summer here in Vegas as well. It snows here once every five or ten years, but if we want snow, we head to Mt charleston or somewhere in Cali.

sqcomp

10-08-2013, 04:02 PM

I don't know of an inexpensive or plug and play way to convert the P-99 to that setup.

derickveliz2

10-16-2013, 12:44 AM

After reading this thread for a while I sure do miss something from another forum I read sometimes, where the worklog only get posts from the creator, and comments to the worklog happens in a seperate thread. Its fun to see the progress in the pictures and explenations, but i sort of loose a bit of interest having to browse trough the numerous posts from other people.

I was hoping to see more than 4 posts here from ladamafia, :iono:

Most of the time YW members PM me with direct questions, I do have in other forums my build without the everyday log.

Some are public some are private, but YarisWorld always gets the best honest, useful information.

D.

sqcomp

10-17-2013, 03:27 AM

D,

Heads up, if you're going to compete IASCA next year, make it happen. I attended the finals again this year...as a spectator this time. It was good to see everyone on the West Coast team with some new additions.

The bottom line is, the cars haven't become "better". There's only so much you can do to certain platforms. I'm here to tell you, the potential of the Yaris hasn't been fully realized yet.

What you need to do is not get your P99 to die the night before finals and get better than 4th in the world in Pro/Am. Then you top me...I know you can do it...I want you to do it mang...

derickveliz2

10-19-2013, 10:29 AM

derickveliz2

10-19-2013, 10:32 AM

Oh! I'm so confident that if I compete again it would be a complete KO!
D.

Forgot!... if Judges are my size lol :w00t:

D.

sqcomp

10-19-2013, 06:11 PM

If one had more space to listen, like a room, the height wouldn't be so much of a factor.

The bit one was very easy to learn and operate. Audison is making it better and better with all the add on values like Bit Tune. I wouldn't hesitate to use it again...DO NOT modify the piece!!! I cannot stress this enough. There is no reason to modify it. That modification of the Bit One cost me a world championship and I'll never forgive the team for not informing me of the near 100% failure rate of the modded pieces...I found that out the hard way.

Just one of the several reasons I'm not with Team Hybrids anymore. Good ethics are completely foreign to the team leadership and brand ownership.

derickveliz2

10-24-2013, 01:04 AM

Another Fall picture... and a friend!

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/CLA%20Adventure/photo.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/CLA%20Adventure/photo.jpg.html)

D.

sqcomp

10-24-2013, 08:36 PM

Why Derick...What is that?

*feigning suprise*

derickveliz2

10-25-2013, 02:18 AM

Why Derick...What is that?

*feigning suprise*

That's a CLS (belongs to one of the owners of the company that I work for)
that car is huge outside but smaller than the Yaris in the inside at least the Pilots seat. lol

no surprises for now, just a picture with leaves and a dream car.

D.

derickveliz2

10-29-2013, 04:33 PM

I got some kids-Halloween music 4 my kids, thought about running the tracks in the Yaris!

AWESOME! lots of special effects that make the ride such an experience!

http://images.emusic.com/music/images/album/114/965/11496520/600x600.jpg

Some car-audio enthusiasts from Massachusetts are planning to have another meet.

D.

JimKellyfan

10-30-2013, 04:25 PM

I was curious as to why not running a huge patch of dynamat or imitation dynamat across areas (covering all but tubes in doors, etc.) ? Instead you had small patches here and there...Curious ?
On another note, (I want to dynamat know my doors for obvious reasons), but before I did, I wanted to let you (and others) that I put two cans of 3M undercoating on my underside (floor pans/ metal parts of wheel wells) with dramatic noise deadening improvement. For an even better coat, let dry and hit with two more cans. (I am just going with 2 for now), until I get my speakers and dynamat and see what that does for it, sound deadening wise.

derickveliz2

10-30-2013, 07:37 PM

I was curious as to why not running a huge patch of dynamat or imitation dynamat across areas (covering all but tubes in doors, etc.) ? Instead you had small patches here and there...Curious ?

Depending on your goal, trying to minimize road noise or deadening your car for big BASS system.

If minimizing road noise is your goal, it's better to use a thick material what I call CLD Tiles (to control reverberations) only require 25-30% of coverage from a flat metal area + a Layer of CCFoam and a Layer of MLV. (that is good to block road noise)

If your goal is controlling rattles from big BASS Subwoofers, then complete layers of Mat are the way to go, but if you overdue you'll find your self inside a big box like a guitar box where YES you block the road noise and control rattles but the reverberation will create other noises, just like inside a guitar.

I did a combination of both where in some areas I'm aiming at blocking noise (road noise) and some other areas to prevent rattles from the BASS.

Take in mind that a system of CLD Tiles (only covering 30% of the metal flat surface) + CCFaom + MLV is about the same as 3 or 4 layers of MAT when your goal is Blocking Road Noise.

Here is a good source of information regarding Deadening just follow the LINK (http://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com/)

D.

derickveliz2

10-31-2013, 10:44 PM

In other words when I put small patches means that I'm covering 30% of a flat metal area to control reverberations, as part of a system to block road noise.

D.

derickveliz2

11-08-2013, 12:03 AM

It's getting cold , 30s at night and 60s during the day, humidity, pressure and changes in temperature; weather conditions change so does the the tuning...

So I've been spending some time on the tuning department, yes the weather changes the stage a little bit, mine brings it a little closer to me and towards the left. Some tuning is necessary to compensate these atmospheric changes.

I can't believe the stage I bring to the car, makes the Yaris feel so big!

Sqcomp you would be proud of my tuning.

D.

sqcomp

11-08-2013, 08:20 PM

It's going to be interesting to see how you do next year. Again...having seen the best from the West, not much has changed. The east is the same, I'm convinced. Flext that tuning ability mang!

derickveliz2

11-11-2013, 02:48 PM

Honestly, Honestly, Honestly, ... :w00t:

Everyone who has heard my Yaris before including and specially the guy at NY who has been 1st place twice at that event would drop their jaws if they hear it again, Even "Me" I do it every day, the more songs I play the more I realize how good has turn into. (but I do realize that there is more to learn and it can get much better). There is always some one or something better if not dozens...

Going to that show was my opportunity to know what I should be going after, most of the systems there shoot for Tonality, Left, center and right stage, at least that was the impression I got, Even the other guy from Massachusetts he heard my car a few weeks after the competition and he was stunning on the depth and width of the Yaris (thinking the judges had no clue of what they where thinking about my Yaris (size matters here, the judges where way taller than me, putting the sweet spot away from their ears, not their falt))

There is a track where a guy speaks on the stage and starts on the center and then walks to the left and rear of the stage, then goes to the right side and so on, according to this guy from Mass. when playing this track inside the Yaris the speaker starts walking to the rear-left to the stage he claims that in the Yaris the width and depth just keeps going and going way to the back. (I know it does, I work so hard to accomplish this)

But wasn't after all that when I picked up about the reflections on the windows and how my issues with ques I overcome. Then I played with RTA and my learning experience jumped up; SQ-Systems I would say it's not for everybody, I can tell how my ear's perception and the way I listen now is so different than most people, I love this hobby I really do.

Last competitions they had about 25 participants and most of the same people was the same as previews events, and according to my friend who was there just a couple of guys had really good systems.

I'm just going to keep learning and enjoying my car as much as I can. Winter is around the corner and I already miss summer.

BTW :smile: I'm getting a new little toy to play with my iPhone it's a little Microphone specially designed for the iPhone and run a RTA will report later this week.:smile:

D.

sqcomp

11-11-2013, 10:05 PM

You're referring to the EMMA staging track IIRC...

derickveliz2

11-12-2013, 12:14 AM

You're referring to the EMMA staging track IIRC...

Yes! "Staging and Imaging" :thumbup:

D.

pennyracer

11-13-2013, 09:40 PM

not as nice looking as i hoped but it will do hope lining the inner of all the panels helps too. looking to get all the road noise out i possibly can . next my 4 focal 10" subwoofer floor enclosure that will complete my system i hope 102 sq ft of mixed thickness's of dynaliner and dynapad used for this job

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/boydstir2291/yarisdynalinertreatment.jpg
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/boydstir2291/RANDOM-INSTALLS481.jpg

derickveliz2

11-14-2013, 01:12 AM

not as nice looking as i hoped but it will do hope lining the inner of all the panels helps too. looking to get all the road noise out i possibly can . next my 4 focal 10" subwoofer floor enclosure that will complete my system i hope 102 sq ft of mixed thickness's of dynaliner and dynapad used for this job

Looks good, the end results are worth the sacrifice! it doesn't matter if it doesn't looks as nice, you won't see it any way. But you will hear/feel the difference.

Good job

D.

pennyracer

11-14-2013, 12:16 PM

i want to try focals entry level 10" subs in my car instead of the 10' arc audio black line series i run for power 1000.1 arc kar series sub amp i will be running four 10" subs this time :help:

derickveliz2

11-19-2013, 02:01 AM

Besides the difference in specs between subs I would share that you can make any subwoofer sound/feel great! with a proper installation and tuning.

Yes their are better woofers than others, and some work better with your current car conditions and system, it's a matter of trial and error, but you can still use some science to accomplish good BASS.

Take in mind your goal, if you want to share your music with your neighborhood or for your self. Many years ago I had a car with two 12" in ported boxes, you could hear/feel my car 3 or 4 blocks away!!!

Now putting that into perspective...

My little 6" subwoofer sounds and feels 100 X better than my two 12's did "inside" the car.

2cts.

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/IDQ/I6SW/cdbdc241.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/IDQ/I6SW/cdbdc241.jpg.html)

D.

sqcomp

11-19-2013, 04:37 PM

After pushing the BS HAT bandwagon, seeing & listening to all the top SQ vehicles in the world...

...I completely agree with D's last statement. With the ability to tune, you can be reasonably assured that any good quality woofer can be made to sound awesome. Brand be damned.

D's rocking with the 6"s, I'm rocking with an 8". I still have that really nice ML3800 that can launch the roof off my car if needed.

pennyracer

11-20-2013, 01:45 PM

i like 8"subs but wanting much more hit feel sound than one or two 8" subs will do . just don't want to step backwards on what i have to what i want without any loss. i know the true way would be to install them i want to do this right the first time if that's possible

derickveliz2

11-25-2013, 03:09 AM

pennyracer

11-25-2013, 02:18 PM

derickveliz2

11-25-2013, 11:22 PM

I am looking to get the feeling the sound wants to push you out of the car but it stays trapped in for my listening pleasures . having such a small car but with big sound was my plan all along . most people around don't know whats inside or have heard whats inside but me and few others . I would like to think i grew up ! but some times i wonder :laughabove:

You should really look for an SQ car (a good one) and get a demo.

I get people drooling about my little 6" woofer after they hear it, like I said before even the IASCA judge was impressed. The key feature here is once you get a good approach to recreate the "Natural" sound of the recorded music not only in the subwoofer area the outcome it's awesome.

But I understand your point of view and I also understand that to do all these a good digital sound processor is need it, so in some cases 'yes' more is better.

I suggest you to read and learn as much as possible from your subwoofers, there are good people out here that can suggest a good match between subs, enclosure and watts. And set a goal but remember there is no cooking instructions on what works best, even a single click on the EQ would make a woofer sound good or really bad. It's about testing, trying and trying again and again. Every car it's different, even our ears are so different, what sounds good for you may not sound good for others.

Just go for it! don't be afraid to experiment.

D.

pennyracer

11-26-2013, 04:48 PM

I don't know anything about a digital sound processor what are those around and who all make them ? And how big are they The little clean up my sound hell yeah I'm I'm all for it

derickveliz2

11-26-2013, 05:39 PM

I don't know anything about a digital sound processor what are those around and who all make them ? And how big are they The little clean up my sound hell yeah I'm I'm all for it

The P99 it's a DSP it self, and many others like Bit-One, Mosconi has one too, Audio Control, JBL MS-8, even Alpine and many more.... they could get very expensive though (average $1k). but I'm not your best sales guy. I like the P99 because it's all in one and works really good.

With a DSP there many functions that let you control, like:

-Levels
-Cross Over points
-Slopes
-HPF
-LPF
-Phase
-Time Alignment
-Left + Right Equalization
-and more... But these are the ones I really like!

They are small like a HU and/or big as a small amp.

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/HU%20Stereo%20System/dc732612.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/HU%20Stereo%20System/dc732612.jpg.html)

http://www.tokospeaker.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/product_full/audison_bit_one.jpg

http://130.com.ua/published/publicdata/AUTO/attachments/SC/products_pictures/Sound-processor-Audison-Bit-One_3_enl.jpg

http://www.mosconi.org/img/6to8/MOSCONI_GLADEN_DSP_6to8side.jpg

http://a248.e.akamai.net/pix.crutchfield.com/ImageHandler/fixedscale/400/300/products/2013/36/161/x161DQ61B-o_angle.jpg

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/electronics/detail-page-2/b003kn2tq2processor2.jpg

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTExMVgxMTEx/z/POUAAOxy4RpRyhy1/$T2eC16hHJHkFFltcN2rlBRyhy0drv!~~60_35.JPG?set_id= 880000500F

http://www.crutchfield.com.edgesuite.net/pix.crutchfield.com/ImageHandler/fixedscale/400/300/products/2010/29/109/x109MS8-t_trunk.jpeg

D.

pennyracer

11-27-2013, 02:04 PM

i am going to do some research i have used audio control many years ago but i am open to most other brands depending on size and price. i am very picky though looks like user friendly is a must for me and i know i want to hide mine. less seen the better for me the audison looks pretty cool from the pic you posted . you know 26 years ago i was using sixes and eights for subs with carver car amps if you have ever seen some older car audio products before ?

sqcomp

11-28-2013, 12:53 AM

Also look into the Arc Audio processor. There are others out there as well...zapco has one as well as PPI.

I've used the bit one and bit ten with great results.

pennyracer

11-28-2013, 10:53 AM

i will look at arc audio one now thanks again

derickveliz2

12-04-2013, 12:01 AM

Ok, so this is the little project I was talking about...

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/Sound%20System/IMG_9411.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/Sound%20System/IMG_9411.jpg.html)

D.

derickveliz2

12-04-2013, 12:05 AM

And what did I accomplish.... A BEFORE & AFTER! (this is just the begining... I end up with more than 50 RTAs tweaking here and there)

BEFORE...

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/CLA%20Adventure/IMG_9537.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/CLA%20Adventure/IMG_9537.jpg.html)

AFTER...

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/CLA%20Adventure/IMG_9550.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/CLA%20Adventure/IMG_9550.jpg.html)

D.

derickveliz2

12-04-2013, 12:10 AM

Now... after running the RTA and tweaking I did notice that the center image moved a little bit closer, to the left and came down a little bit too.

It's time for another Left+Right EQ centering Frequencies to bring the stage up and centered again... followed by some T/A adjustments (Time alignment)

Tuning, tuning and tuning, you click here and then you have to half click there, back and forth... This is FUN!

D.

sqcomp

12-06-2013, 11:27 PM

This makes me smile!

derickveliz2

12-26-2013, 01:14 AM

Sqcomp... and YarisWorld members....

In a short notice I'm writing here to let you guys know that sadly I'm going to...

sell my Yaris...:brokenheart:

so the process of bringing my Yaris back to Stock will start soon, unless there is anybody interested in the way it is right now.

I haven't come up with a price (stock or as is) but if any body in YW is interested let me know before I put it for sale in my Local Area.

:brokenheart: :cry: :brokenheart:

D.

TOLMACH

12-26-2013, 03:19 AM

Cheer up man.. you'll buy smth better like Juke ))

derickveliz2

12-26-2013, 04:24 PM

Cheer up man.. you'll buy smth better like Juke ))

You mean Nissan Juke?

D.

derickveliz2

12-26-2013, 04:30 PM

You mean Nissan Juke?

D.

I guess I need the money now then I'll deal with next car, for the next 3 to 4 months my brother is going to let me use his car.

D.

sqcomp

12-27-2013, 09:14 PM

Yeah! Get a Nissan Juke!

Perhaps the ugliest vehicle on the planet...next to a Nissan Cube.

Where the hell do people come up with these suggestions? ...Especially on a Yaris forum.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/02/11-nissan-juke-pressopt.jpg
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-fart006.gif
versus something like this perhaps:

http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/201305/mercedes-cla-gt-r-by_600x0w.jpg
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-dance006.gif

...Just a thought. A Merc might suit you Derick...

derickveliz2

12-27-2013, 10:58 PM

Yeah! Get a Nissan Juke!

Perhaps the ugliest vehicle on the planet...next to a Nissan Cube.

Where the hell do people come up with these suggestions? ...Especially on a Yaris forum.

versus something like this perhaps:

...Just a thought. A Merc might suit you Derick...

My cousin just bough a Juke and I told him if that was a Joke! lol

He let me drive it for a while and it's a nice car to drive, specially because the TURBO (maybe if I was 20 years younger that would be the car for me) but not much impressed to really own one at my age.

on the other hand... CLA it's TURBO too I like it SQcomp! and according to MB it gets 38 MPG on High way, Yaris claims 36 MPG and I'm getting 42 MPG

The CLA looks promising!

Here is the civilian version in white!

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3MGGbHkklLc/UmoJUhk1MRI/AAAAAAAAwHs/26ZuFh3YsTU/s800/IMG_8907_zps22a9e9da.jpg

D.

derickveliz2

12-27-2013, 11:07 PM

Hey guys should I take the BIG 3 out? and sell it in YW?

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-EEa4LmOxIyE/TD8dsc0shOI/AAAAAAAAYqk/ZyAolCpPKRc/s1024/DSC_0966.JPG

D.

derickveliz2

12-27-2013, 11:09 PM

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-gGlKF0lpAS4/UXKhXxT8Q_I/AAAAAAAAtu8/7V95FoDIB7E/s1024/c5bdea24.jpg

D.

derickveliz2

12-28-2013, 02:44 AM

Took me less than an hour to go back to this...:brokenheart::cry::brokenheart:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-309_FnSmbfg/Ur5yomGivfI/AAAAAAAAw-Y/ueZsQUPFmAY/w613-h821-no/photo+1.JPG

D.

sqcomp

12-28-2013, 04:14 AM

I'd sell the kit for $25 plus shipping perhaps.

I should start making these kits for people. Some of the grounding kits that we see sold for much more deliver a lot less value.

It's interesting how a lot of vehicle manufacturers are leaning toward the 2.0 liter engine. I'm seeing caddy use the 2 liter turbo as well as Merc...

MyzticZ3r0

12-28-2013, 06:34 AM

I'd be interested in the Big 3 if you're selling =]

derickveliz2

12-29-2013, 03:08 AM

I'd be interested in the Big 3 if you're selling =]

Send me a PM :thumbup: or email me @

derickveliz at g mail dot com

D.

TOLMACH

12-29-2013, 03:50 PM

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-gGlKF0lpAS4/UXKhXxT8Q_I/AAAAAAAAtu8/7V95FoDIB7E/s1024/c5bdea24.jpg

D.

No fuse between the alternator and (+) terminal of the battery? :confused:

Also, unprotected large gauge positive wire under the hood looks kinda dangerous

Here is how I did mine http://photo.qip.ru/users/tolmach/96608749/126157568/#mainImageLink

Separate fuse for alt to battery cable http://photo.qip.ru/users/tolmach/96608749/126157538/#mainImageLink

derickveliz2

12-29-2013, 07:26 PM

None of the DIY I checked for Big 3 had a fuse, it worked for me.
My Big 3 it's gauge 0, and on your pictures shows something that looks like gauge 4, not sure if it's better or not.

What do you mean with "unprotected"? that red and transparent plastic over the wires is really thick, and protects the wires very good, I don't see anything wrong.

D.

derickveliz2

12-29-2013, 07:28 PM

BTW I received more than 10 PMs asking about the Big 3, I reply to only one the one who PM me first, so if you didn't get a response I apologize.

D.

sqcomp

12-29-2013, 11:40 PM

What TOLMACH is referring to is the live posi wire if you ever get into a wreck that knocks the battery and/or wires loose.

It's an even easier fix than spending the money that he did for the car audio fuse and holder. You can go to any auto parts store and buy a heavier Amperage fusible link. That will allow you to run it inline like TOLAMCH did yet have just as much fusible protection as you need and have a smaller sillouette versus using the car audio fuse solution.

Note, either works.

As for "unprotected"...that's a bit of a stretch. Like D mentioned, the clear sleeving offered from the wire itself is usually sufficient in the Yaris engine bay. Techflex, like what TOLMACH, is using is purely for looks. The techflex offers no true protection other than an easily melted layer of more plastic. I mean really...you use a hot knife to properly terminate the ends...

derickveliz2

01-01-2014, 05:51 PM

Ok, YW here it is... open to the world!

Please pass this information if you can...

For more information go to LINK (http://2008yaris.weebly.com/)

Thanks

D.

sqcomp

01-02-2014, 04:02 AM

Love the ad! GLWS!

derickveliz2

01-09-2014, 07:35 PM

Today was D-Day

)o: :brokenheart:

:cry:

D.

MyzticZ3r0

01-09-2014, 08:04 PM

derickveliz2

01-10-2014, 12:41 AM

The good thing everything went well, in theory I could tell that the Yaris was sold in less than 5 hrs, the guy I sold it to was the first one to contact me just a few hours after I posted in Craigslist.

Reminds me when I sold my Motorcycle it was gone fast.

I have a bunch of little things left that I may post for sale, the OZ Ultraligera black wheels for example... more info later I'm just way overwhelm now.

Good night. Zzzzzzzzz

D.

sqcomp

01-10-2014, 07:12 AM

Good deal really...now onto something new!

derickveliz2

01-29-2014, 02:10 AM

I spoke the the guy who bought my Yaris the other day, he was very happy and did a few modifications already like 6x9 speakers in the rear deck and an alarm for security...

I miss my Yaris, specially with this Subaru and it's 23 MPG, (my brothers car)

D.

derickveliz2

01-29-2014, 02:29 AM

So here are a few things I still have: (for SALE)

4 wheels + Tires
DashMat
Hybrid Audio LS6 7" speaker for the front doors
3 Subwoofers Kicker Solo-Baric
1 10" Bazooka Tube
Head Unit Bezel
Front EOM Grill

Wheels and Tires:
http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/Yarisito/DSC00204.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/Yarisito/DSC00204.jpg.html)

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/Yarisito/DSC_4869.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/Yarisito/DSC_4869.jpg.html)

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/Yarisito/DSC_4866.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/Yarisito/DSC_4866.jpg.html)

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/Yarisito/DSC_4854.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/Yarisito/DSC_4854.jpg.html)

DashMat: (Protects your dash and absorbs road noise from windshield)
http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/Front%20Stage/4c9ce081.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/Front%20Stage/4c9ce081.jpg.html)

Hybrid Audio L6s and ZEUS 6.5" speakers:

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/L6/b3d02004.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/L6/b3d02004.jpg.html)

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/L6/f6d2035d.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/L6/f6d2035d.jpg.html)

3-10" Solo-Barics
http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/WOOFERS/2-DSC_8882.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/WOOFERS/2-DSC_8882.jpg.html)

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/WOOFERS/3-DSC_8886.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/WOOFERS/3-DSC_8886.jpg.html)

10" Bazooka
http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/IDQ/652f52ab.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/IDQ/652f52ab.jpg.html)

D.

derickveliz2

01-29-2014, 02:44 AM

10" Bazooka
http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/Sound%20System/8329ca3b.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/Sound%20System/8329ca3b.jpg.html)

Another shot of the Dash-Mat
http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/Sound%20System/7d02821d.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/Sound%20System/7d02821d.jpg.html)

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/BALLS/bc3c77a5.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/BALLS/bc3c77a5.jpg.html)

1 Box for the 10" Solo-Baric
http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/Sound%20System/424e2108.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/Sound%20System/424e2108.jpg.html)

OZ Wheels (again)
http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/Yaris%20Deadening/DSC_9202.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/Yaris%20Deadening/DSC_9202.jpg.html)

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-HSlgHQ5dqP4/T_5i-Acxf_I/AAAAAAAApOE/pPvzU7BLlXM/s912/1-062612104328.jpg

D.

derickveliz2

01-29-2014, 02:58 AM

Head Unit Bezel
http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/Yaris%20Deadening/DSC_9623.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/Yaris%20Deadening/DSC_9623.jpg.html)

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/HU%20Stereo%20System/82af2a5e.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/HU%20Stereo%20System/82af2a5e.jpg.html)

Front OEM Grill:
http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/Yarisito/8d447eda.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/Yarisito/8d447eda.jpg.html)

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/Yarisito/15e8eb27.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/Yarisito/15e8eb27.jpg.html)

10 mm Penguin Spacer
http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/Yarisito/Spacer.png (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/Yarisito/Spacer.png.html)

Hybrid Audio i6SW woofer

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/IDQ/I6SW/cdbdc241.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/IDQ/I6SW/cdbdc241.jpg.html)

i6SW specially for Yaris front subwoofer

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/IDQ/I6SW/0df6c4e4.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/IDQ/I6SW/0df6c4e4.jpg.html)

D.

derickveliz2

01-29-2014, 03:01 AM

And maybe more stuff, but I can't remember right now. PM me for more information.

D.

sickpuppy1

01-29-2014, 08:59 PM

Are you gonna price this stuff?

derickveliz2

01-30-2014, 12:09 AM

Are you gonna price this stuff?

I'm going to list them on craigslist.org, but before that I wanted to give the opportunity to YW members a good price.

If you would like something send me a PM or email me, I'll give you a good price, or wait until I put a price to everything.

derickveliz at gmail dot com

D.

sqcomp

01-30-2014, 09:19 PM

GLWS Derick.

I'd buy the Solos and the ID but I already have a $1K 15" and two extra ID8s in my garage collecting dust.

TOLMACH

02-03-2014, 12:23 AM

Hybrid Audio gear should be prone to fast depreciation in value hence e-bay might be ab option.

derickveliz2

02-03-2014, 12:26 AM

Hybrid Audio gear should be prone to fast depreciation in value hence e-bay might be ab option.

Not really, because I get up to %60 of the value at Hybrid if I trade in, even if the speakers are damage or no good.

But I hear you, I even sold the Yaris through craigslist lol

D.

sqcomp

02-05-2014, 12:27 AM

The caveat to the HAT thing is that you need to buy more HAT gear.

As for the idea that HAT "depreciates" any more than any other main line manufacturer, that is ludicrous and unfounded. There's something else behind that statement.

...I raise that flag having left HAT and car audio competition under less than amicable circumstances and having no love for the brand's owner and his sidekick. But the idea of HAT speakers being worth less simply is untrue.

_S7V7N_

02-05-2014, 02:11 AM

derickveliz2

02-05-2014, 02:28 AM

Its not from Madi's or Parts express its garbage...Lollll

Wth I go on hiatus again and D sells his baby !

Derick is that an American International dash kit. If so does it have parts to make it a double din ? Mannn them Zeus look verrry tempting ! And did you get rid of crossovers for tht kit ?

I don't believe I have a kit that grabs a double din, but I'll check, I think it comes from LINK (http://bestkits.com/product.php?p=597) part #BKTOYK969

I sold the crossovers! sorry.

D.

_S7V7N_

02-05-2014, 02:36 AM

Have any of the speaker pods you made ?

derickveliz2

02-05-2014, 02:44 AM

Have any of the speaker pods you made ?

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/BALLS/8fa488e7.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/BALLS/8fa488e7.jpg.html)

and...

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/Front%20Stage/af33904f.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/Front%20Stage/af33904f.jpg.html)

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/Front%20Stage/ee961c62.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/Front%20Stage/ee961c62.jpg.html)

D.

derickveliz2

02-05-2014, 02:47 AM

another shot

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/Front%20Stage/b7761ecf.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/Front%20Stage/b7761ecf.jpg.html)

D.

sqcomp

02-05-2014, 05:36 PM

You know...that reminds me. After D is done selling his pillars, I should put mine and the sail panels I constructed up for sale as well.

Welcome back _S7V7N_!

derickveliz2

02-05-2014, 06:44 PM

So far...

Yaris
OZ Wheels and Tires
Penguin Spacers
Black logs
Hybrid L6
Hibrid L1v2
IDQ12
Hiphonics 6.5" speakers
Small spheres
Large Spheres

all these are gone!

D.

derickveliz2

02-05-2014, 06:46 PM

Check out the snow...

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-YDddjQSsnAA/UvK8exRgNwI/AAAAAAABBqc/S0ChyuRdwfM/s640/DSC_5021-SNOW.gif

D.

sqcomp

02-06-2014, 01:53 AM

Nice on the sale!

derickveliz2

02-07-2014, 01:09 AM

Nice on the sale!

Thanks, It's hard for me to let all these equipment go...

Do yo know or anybody here knows a little bit about Infinite Baffle Subwoofers in Trunks? any literature out there?

I just would like to know more about it, thanks!

D.

derickveliz2

02-18-2014, 07:36 PM

Way too much snow to plow! Good work out!

I saw a gray Yaris sedan pass by... wonder how mine is doing?
I never though I would miss it that much.

D.

MyzticZ3r0

02-19-2014, 03:50 AM

Are you going to put another system in your new vehicle?

derickveliz2

02-19-2014, 12:20 PM

Are you going to put another system in your new vehicle?

YES!

Head Unit and DSP will be the P99

Tweeters... OEM

Mids... HL70

Lows... 6.5 $50 speakers

Subwoofer(s)... TBD

2 amps:
Image Dynamics 2x300
Power Bass 4x75 + 200

What else I'm missing? Deadening and Sound Barriers!

D.

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dj92

02-19-2014, 01:45 PM

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/IDQ/I6SW/0df6c4e4.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/IDQ/I6SW/0df6c4e4.jpg.html)

Where and how do you fit this in?
I don't want to give up any of my luggage space (including the spare wheel), so I have only the space behind the passenger side glove box and the cavity under the passenger side seat.
What do you recommend?
I am aware that the efficiency of such a small box might be lousy, but I am willing to compensate this with some more watts :D
(and I have about 300ft of almost AWG 5 at hand :headbang: )

derickveliz2

02-19-2014, 03:57 PM

Where and how do you fit this in?
I don't want to give up any of my luggage space (including the spare wheel), so I have only the space behind the passenger side glove box and the cavity under the passenger side seat.
What do you recommend?
I am aware that the efficiency of such a small box might be lousy, but I am willing to compensate this with some more watts :D
(and I have about 300ft of almost AWG 5 at hand :headbang: )

Goes in front, next to the center console... see picture below! and it's AMAZING!

I can't really recommend you to buy my box+woofer, If you like to buy it it's up to you.

With proper tuning will sound really good, almost like if you had a 10" woofer up front. (see testimony below where he talks about the i6SW)

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/IDQ/I6SW/f23ad9a3.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/IDQ/I6SW/f23ad9a3.jpg.html)

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-eEbZzggejmA/UjKUw9U33-I/AAAAAAAAv0U/FxWo_drU9FU/w1461-h822-no/Fullscreen+capture+9132013+121927+AM.bmp.jpg

D.

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derickveliz2

02-19-2014, 05:45 PM

Just to make it more interesting... SPL not SQ though

LINK (http://youtu.be/u8yArcObFZI) to see video of a i6SW

D.

sqcomp

03-24-2014, 08:39 PM

Derick...

Check out what's happening with the other car...

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?p=731185#post731185

Friday it all goes in.

derickveliz2

03-24-2014, 11:08 PM

Derick...

Check out what's happening with the other car...

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?p=731185#post731185

Friday it all goes in.

That is "sexy" sqcomp!

D.

derickveliz2

03-28-2014, 02:42 PM

Tomorrow is the BIG day!

D.

sqcomp

03-28-2014, 05:54 PM

Pics or it didn't happen!! :)

derickveliz2

03-28-2014, 09:47 PM

Pics or it didn't happen!! :)

"Like" :thumbsup:

D.

MyzticZ3r0

03-28-2014, 10:07 PM

=] YEEAA BUDDY

why?

03-29-2014, 07:05 PM

wow. you sold almost everything! I am shocked.

sqcomp

03-29-2014, 08:17 PM

^Speaking of selling things...how's your deck doing?

derickveliz2

03-29-2014, 10:03 PM

Pics or it didn't happen!! :)

Cellphone pictures for now...

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/CLA%20Adventure/photo5-001.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/CLA%20Adventure/photo5-001.jpg.html)

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/CLA%20Adventure/photo4-001.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/CLA%20Adventure/photo4-001.jpg.html)

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/CLA%20Adventure/photo11-001.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/CLA%20Adventure/photo11-001.jpg.html)

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/CLA%20Adventure/photo31-001.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/CLA%20Adventure/photo31-001.jpg.html)

D.

derickveliz2

03-30-2014, 02:29 AM

Here I am with my kids picking up the new ride!

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/CLA%20Adventure/DSC_5550.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/CLA%20Adventure/DSC_5550.jpg.html)

D.

derickveliz2

03-30-2014, 02:37 AM

wow. you sold almost everything! I am shocked.

I still have a lot of equipment for sale!

But I did sell a lot! just enough to justify some new toys to make this beauty sound the best!

I still have the Pioneer P-99 that I really like.
All my amps that I would need
My IDQ12d4 v3 Subwoofer

and lot's of knowledge to build a really nice SQ System!

I know you have Sqcomp's deck and you should installed! I'll help you!

D.

sqcomp

03-30-2014, 02:40 PM

_S7V7N_

03-30-2014, 02:50 PM

Nice !! D. Congrats

MyzticZ3r0

03-30-2014, 04:08 PM

Yeaaaa D! What a beauty! Happy for ya =]

tk-421

03-30-2014, 04:12 PM

Congrats, Derick! Nicely done. :thumbsup:

derickveliz2

03-31-2014, 12:45 PM

Wait...I noticed AMG...You got an AMG!?!?! You had BETTER have a shot of the outside of the trunk!

Don't fool around. The front clip looks different than the CLA 45 AMG that I'm looking at.

Right now you're messing with the emotions of a car guy... :)

I got the Sport version of the CLA 250 4MATIC that comes with AMG wheels, suspension, breaks and Front, sides and rear bumper spoilers)

I saved my self around $30K not getting the CLA 45 lost a couple hundred of ponies and still getting more than 32 MPG (O:

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/CLA%20Adventure/IMG_1345.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/CLA%20Adventure/IMG_1345.jpg.html)

D.

derickveliz2

03-31-2014, 01:02 PM

Nice !! D. Congrats

Thanks 7!

Yeaaaa D! What a beauty! Happy for ya =]

Thanks P.. how are the OZ?

Congrats, Derick! Nicely done. :thumbsup:

Thanks TK

D.

derickveliz2

03-31-2014, 03:38 PM

This morning CLA meets rain & ice!

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/CLA%20Adventure/photo3.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/CLA%20Adventure/photo3.jpg.html)

D.

why?

03-31-2014, 04:15 PM

I'm so jealous. That is so awesome, I am dying to buy an AWD car.

^Speaking of selling things...how's your deck doing?

You won't like me if I tell you.

I still have a lot of equipment for sale!

But I did sell a lot! just enough to justify some new toys to make this beauty sound the best!

I still have the Pioneer P-99 that I really like.
All my amps that I would need
My IDQ12d4 v3 Subwoofer

and lot's of knowledge to build a really nice SQ System!

I know you have Sqcomp's deck and you should installed! I'll help you!

D.

Yea we should try to get together again and you can walk me through putting it in. I am pretty sure I have everything I could possibly need, Sqcomp sent me an entire wire factory along with the deck. I just need to also buy an inexpensive amp for the stock speakers. Although my local Subaru dealer is getting a STi Launch edition in, maybe if I fake some numbers he would sell it to me. =)

sqcomp

03-31-2014, 05:17 PM

You won't like me if I tell you.

:eek:

It's too bad we're on opposite sides of the country. I'd love the chance to roll out and help.

why?

03-31-2014, 06:29 PM

Where and how do you fit this in?
I don't want to give up any of my luggage space (including the spare wheel), so I have only the space behind the passenger side glove box and the cavity under the passenger side seat.
What do you recommend?
I am aware that the efficiency of such a small box might be lousy, but I am willing to compensate this with some more watts :D
(and I have about 300ft of almost AWG 5 at hand :headbang: )

Derrick had it in the left part of the passenger foot well. Now I am 6'2" and over 300, and I still could easily fit in the passenger seat with zero spacial issues.

The thing does sound wondrous, and likes tons of power too.

:eek:

It's too bad we're on opposite sides of the country. I'd love the chance to roll out and help.

That would be awesome. I've tried to get a couple people to help me, it just didn't happen. I'd be the type of person to figure out how to wire the head unit and turn the car into a grenade. Supposedly impossible, yet I'd mess it up in that way. It will happen, and it will be awesome.

derickveliz2

04-01-2014, 12:00 AM

I had the guy who both my Yaris come and buy the Bezel for a double dim monitor...

Head Unit Bezel
http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/Yaris%20Deadening/DSC_9623.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/Yaris%20Deadening/DSC_9623.jpg.html)

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/HU%20Stereo%20System/82af2a5e.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/HU%20Stereo%20System/82af2a5e.jpg.html)

D.

derickveliz2

04-01-2014, 12:05 AM

I'm so jealous. That is so awesome, I am dying to buy an AWD car.

You won't like me if I tell you.

Yea we should try to get together again and you can walk me through putting it in. I am pretty sure I have everything I could possibly need, Sqcomp sent me an entire wire factory along with the deck. I just need to also buy an inexpensive amp for the stock speakers. Although my local Subaru dealer is getting a STi Launch edition in, maybe if I fake some numbers he would sell it to me. =)

I'm going to be in Dartmouth next week, I'll let you know!

The Big 3 is gone, I still have the 10" Bazooka
The Hybrid subwoofer with custom enclosure for the front of the Yaris (I saw your PM, this little one does play low, but it won't play loud enough so your neighbors would feel it)
I have the 3" Mids Hertz HL-70
and... I'll have to check downstairs and report back.

D.

derickveliz2

04-01-2014, 12:07 AM

Hybrid Audio i6SW woofer

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/IDQ/I6SW/cdbdc241.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/IDQ/I6SW/cdbdc241.jpg.html)

i6SW specially for Yaris front subwoofer

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/IDQ/I6SW/0df6c4e4.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/IDQ/I6SW/0df6c4e4.jpg.html)

D.

derickveliz2

04-01-2014, 12:11 AM

10" Bazooka

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/IDQ/652f52ab.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/IDQ/652f52ab.jpg.html)

Another shot of the Dash-Mat
http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/Sound%20System/7d02821d.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/Sound%20System/7d02821d.jpg.html)

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/BALLS/bc3c77a5.jpg (http://s634.photobucket.com/user/derickveliz/media/BALLS/bc3c77a5.jpg.html)

D.

sqcomp

04-01-2014, 12:48 AM

derickveliz2

04-01-2014, 02:40 AM

You're reminding me that I need to take the speakers out of my SRT.

*sigh*

All I need to hear in that car is the turbo and the exhaust note.

I'm getting the itch to put that 15" back in the Yaris though. I like big bass and I cannot lie...

Oooh! Speaking of big bass, I now have a personal "in" at Digital Designs in OK. This should be a fun contact to use over time.

Speaking of Turbo... this little CLA drives very mellow in E mode but when you switch to S and step on the gas, wait for 1/2 second the Turbo kicks in and the double clutch gearbox transform this little puppy into a beast! it's like day and night! and the exhaust tone it's wonderful! It's very impressive for only 200 hp, compare to the CLS with 450 hp.

I can't imaging how good your SRT is, it should be awesome!

About DD, where can I get more informtion about the w6.5 like sensitivity, internal volume need it if installed in a sealed box, etc... I'm looking for midwoofer options to match a pair of ID Horns, I was going to buy a pair of 18sound 6ND430 4 Ohm LINK (http://www.usspeaker.com/eighteensound-6ND430-1.htm) but this one is good for the door or in kick area but vented outside in IB configuration.

http://www.usspeaker.com/images/esound-6nd430-size281.gif

D.

sqcomp

04-01-2014, 10:02 AM

derickveliz2

04-01-2014, 10:22 AM

That's why I was so jazzed about the idea of an AMG! You have a nice advantage...you now have a vehicle that is really two cars in one (a daily and a sports).

Which woofer was that again? Hybrid or Digital Designs?

You are right! it's like having a Transformer ready to go!

Here is the LINK (http://www.ddaudio.com/products/mobile-audio/woofers/w65) for the W6.5

Thanks

D.

_S7V7N_

04-01-2014, 01:21 PM

Derick over at Diyma Look up Exodus Anarchy 6.5's and Crescendo PWX6.5.

MyzticZ3r0

04-01-2014, 03:26 PM

Thanks P.. how are the OZ?

D.

They're treating me well =]. I'm flying out to Seattle this week and when I come back, the spacers are going on. Along with the spacers, casual maintenance like spark plugs, new bulbs, and a car wash are in order. Hopefully in the next month or two, new suspension ;)

sqcomp

04-01-2014, 11:16 PM

Oh yeah! The 6.5...

I have never used them. That being said, Jim has mentioned that they're formidable to say the least. I should buck up and put a pair of them in the Yaris doors. Although taking out the Voce coaxials is pulling at my soul.

I could re install some tweeters into the sail panels. I have the big S4b I could use to power that setup.

anyone want to take some Audison Voce X6 coaxials off my hands? I'm down for experimenting with the DD's for Derick...

sqcomp

04-01-2014, 11:31 PM

D,

Heads up...I'm talking with Jim right now. I may trade him my ML3800 for all four DD speakers (the two W6.5's and two AT28 tweeters) working off the crossovers on the S4b I have.

I may put the dual 8" sub enclosure in the car again to keep up with the mids...

If the mid woofers pass the "sqcomp" SQ test I'll work with you to get you a pair.

OH! Do you remember ever talking with Aaron at the shop? He is now working for DD in OKC! If you even need help with DD, you have an "in" with the company.

derickveliz2

04-02-2014, 01:36 AM

Thanks!

I do have some issues in the CLA to resolve first.

1.- Where to put the P99, under the dash??, above the center console??, I don't know for sure???

2.- If I go with Horns, I may have to go with Mini Horns, because the Airbags, foot heating ducts, OBD connector and hood opener

3.- Worst case scenario I swap the P99 for a Bit 10 or similar and use OEM head unit with OEM Door speakers and Sail OEM Tweeters (I don't really want to go this way)

My goals are:

1.-Keep it simple and stock look if possible
2.-if I sell or trade later it should be an easy task to uninstall
3.-I would like to try a pair of Horns.
4.-I would like to use the P99
5.-Use Door speakers as Midbass woofer
6.-Possibility to use OEM tweeters at sailpanels even if going with Horns
7.-IDQ12 is going IB in the Trunk
8.-Use only 2 Amps and they go in the Trunk... ID (175x2) and PB 5.1 (75x4+200x1)

and Finally if YW doesn't want me to talk about my new build in here, please let me know and I'll just plug a LINK.

Thanks again!

D.

_S7V7N_

04-02-2014, 02:19 AM

I vote this stays here. This place would be slow without this thread.

Give other link too though.

_S7V7N_

04-02-2014, 04:39 AM

Derick can that P-99 go in the glove box ? That interior looks pretty darn tight.

Does the factory unit have any sort of Auxiliary ? You're going to need to still access your factory unit on a regular basis....i wouldn't recommend messing with any of it.

If this is the way your interior looks :

http://i57.tinypic.com/15nuetu.jpg

What does the lil compartment under your temp gauges look like ? does it easily pop out ?

derickveliz2

04-02-2014, 09:02 AM

sqcomp

04-02-2014, 04:06 PM

_S7V7N_

04-02-2014, 04:31 PM

http://www.cadencesound.com/xam500-4bt/

Wonder how this amp would do in an sq setup. Bluetooth inputs ?

sqcomp

04-02-2014, 04:49 PM

There's this as well:

http://precisionpower.com/store/products/accessories/signal-processors/deq-8-127.html

_S7V7N_

04-02-2014, 05:32 PM

The thing i'm wondering on that amp(cadence) is could you wire the speakers as well as run them wirelessly. So they could be hooked up to the factory deck (wired) p-99 (wirelessly) ?

Would a hi lo (LOC) put out a clean signal or would any sq be sacrificed ?

sqcomp

04-02-2014, 09:47 PM

Okay...The BT is refrencing your phone. The speakers themselves won't be wireless.

That being said...there is a way to make it wireless, sort of. It's not worth the time except in home audio applications IMHO.

why?

04-03-2014, 10:25 AM

derickveliz2

04-04-2014, 01:03 AM

Do a bit ten. Save the p99 for later.

That bit ten is smaller than the deck and will allow you to keep the factory look which is nice.

As for the w6.5, we have a limitation. The frequency response is 60-300 Hz. I'm looking at the AW6.5 right now with Jim. I'll keep you in the loop.

oK, Lets talk "Bit Ten"

-Only good for a 2 way + Subwoofer right?

-I can plug 2 sets (4 channel) of channels into Bit Ten... Front door speakers and front tweeters to get the signal from the MB head unit (MB=Mercedes Benz) the Bit Ten is going to de-equalize and then provide 3 channels out like L+R Midbass, L+R Tweeter, + Subwoofer

-Does the Bit Ten has Left and Right EQ?

-An finally... how much it costs?

D.

derickveliz2

04-04-2014, 01:11 AM

Could the P99 fit in the armrest? I saw a build a long time ago where the builder kept everything looking stock, and could even run off of the stock head unit, but he had a switch with the good head unit and cd changer hidden in the arm rest.

1- too small won't fit )o:

2- you really need to see the face of the deck specially when tuning, that means in "your regular driving position", when tuning you can't turn your head or move.

D.

sqcomp

04-04-2014, 01:48 PM

oK, Lets talk "Bit Ten"

-Only good for a 2 way + Subwoofer right?

-I can plug 2 sets (4 channel) of channels into Bit Ten... Front door speakers and front tweeters to get the signal from the MB head unit (MB=Mercedes Benz) the Bit Ten is going to de-equalize and then provide 3 channels out like L+R Midbass, L+R Tweeter, + Subwoofer

-Does the Bit Ten has Left and Right EQ?

-An finally... how much it costs?

D.

http://www.hifi-music.de/shop/bilder/produkte/gross/Audison-Bit-Ten-D_b4.jpg

http://www.audison.eu/index.php?page=product&id=42

Cost? 300-400. It's more effective than any analog piece from the 80-90s to be honest. You have the ability to see the entire crossover and EQ layout, the ability to make adjustments on the fly while seeing and hearing the effect pretty much instantly. You have time alignment as well. In the setup of the PC program, it should ask if you are using a two or three way.

I can have Jim call you if you'd like.